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Why I Pick Woolies!

icyfroth — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 05:04:03 GMT

From today, Woolworths customers nationwide will have the option of purchasing paper shopping bags to carry their shopping home in.

The new carry bags, which were trialed successfully at a number of Woolworths stores last year, have been introduced to meet growing customer demand for alternatives which can be easily recycled in household curbside collection.

Made from 70 percent recycled paper, the bags will be sold at cost for 20 cents, in addition to the supermarket’s existing reusable plastic bags and Bag for Good options.

All paper used has been sourced responsibly, as certified by the Forest Stewardship Council, with non-recycled paper used in conjunction with recycled paper to provide a stronger structure. The bags have been tested to carry up to 6kg worth of groceries.

Woolworths Supermarkets Managing Director Claire Peters said: ”While the vast majority of our customers bring their own bags, we know customers sometimes drop by a store unplanned or can forget their bags when they’re on the run.

”For some time, customers have told us they’d like the option of a strong paper bag option, so we’re pleased to now offer that choice at our checkouts, alongside our existing reusable plastic bags.

https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/discover/paper-bag-update

Well there ya go!

Back to the old days (1970s, when I was a checkout-chick) before plastic shopping bags, when we used to use our own bags or paper sacks to take our groceries home. Or have them delivered.

I'm really liking that Woolies is offering the recycled paper bags option.

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

imastawka — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 05:39:06 GMT

And -

Customers looking to reduce the use of plastic bags when purchasing fruit and vegetables will also have an alternative from today. Reusable nylon produce bags will be available for purchase in a pack of three for $4, the bags are specifically designed to be compatible with Woolworths checkout scales and will be conveniently stationed in the fruit and vegetables section of all Woolworths Metros and select supermarkets.

Plans are underway to extend the option of paper bags to Woolworths' online customers for home delivery and Pick Up.

I'm particularly interested in the online option.

Thanks for posting, Icy

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

icyfroth — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 05:52:09 GMT

@imastawka wrote:
And -

Customers looking to reduce the use of plastic bags when purchasing fruit and vegetables will also have an alternative from today. Reusable nylon produce bags will be available for purchase in a pack of three for $4, the bags are specifically designed to be compatible with Woolworths checkout scales and will be conveniently stationed in the fruit and vegetables section of all Woolworths Metros and select supermarkets.

Plans are underway to extend the option of paper bags to Woolworths' online customers for home delivery and Pick Up.

I'm particularly interested in the online option.

Thanks for posting, Icy

Just makes sense...

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

domino-710 — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 05:56:41 GMT

Think again,

Woolworths has confirmed to 7NEWS.com.au that the bags have always been made in both China and Vietnam as “we're unable to manufacture paper bags at the scale we need in Australia at this time”. The “Made in Vietnam” paper bags have since created confusion on Facebook.

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

imastawka — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 06:22:28 GMT

The announcement by Woolies says the paper bags are 'sourced responsibly'

Nothing mentioned about locally

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

icyfroth — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 06:28:40 GMT

@domino-710 wrote:
Think again,

Woolworths has confirmed to 7NEWS.com.au that the bags have always been made in both China and Vietnam as “we're unable to manufacture paper bags at the scale we need in Australia at this time”. The “Made in Vietnam” paper bags have since created confusion on Facebook.

Yeah well. Yep. On closer inspection ,the paper bags show as 'Made in Vietnam'

I mean, really?

Austtrlalia needs to wake up to itself.

Can we really not use our own waste paper to recycle into shopping bags?

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

imastawka — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 06:31:07 GMT

If we send all the paper for recycling overseas, how do we make anything if it ain't here?

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

lionrose.7 — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 06:33:47 GMT

We dont have any Plastic bags here at all now.

I know am the owner of about 12 shopping bags LOL

Keep for getting to get them out of the car and having to buy another.

Our Local 4square have had Paper bags for ages

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

icyfroth — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 06:39:18 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
@domino-710 wrote:
Think again,

Woolworths has confirmed to 7NEWS.com.au that the bags have always been made in both China and Vietnam as “we're unable to manufacture paper bags at the scale we need in Australia at this time”. The “Made in Vietnam” paper bags have since created confusion on Facebook.
Yeah well. Yep. On closer inspection ,the paper bags show as 'Made in Vietnam'

I mean, really?

Austtrlalia needs to wake up to itself.

Can we really not use our own waste paper to recycle into shopping bags?

Or is our waste paper going to other countries to be recycled and sold back to us so we can feel good about using our waste product ?

At our expense?

Our waste is being sent overseas to be recycled and sent back to us at a profit as a usable product.

No wonder we're seen as the "dumb blondes" of the Asia Pacific.

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

davewil1964 — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 07:57:16 GMT

The plastic produce bags have been available in my Woolies for yonks.

I don't buy them. The free ones are still available and they get at least a second life as freezer bags.

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

icyfroth — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 21:22:46 GMT

@imastawka wrote:
If we send all the paper for recycling overseas, how do we make anything if it ain't here?

The simple logic would be to keep our waste paper here and manufacture the bags locally. Lord knows we have plenty of unemployed ppl here that would be grateful for a job.

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

icyfroth — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 21:25:31 GMT

@davewil1964 wrote:
The plastic produce bags have been available in my Woolies for yonks.

I don't buy them. The free ones are still available and they get at least a second life as freezer bags.

Yes I use the produce bags and kitchen tidy bin liners, and sometimes as freezer bags.

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

icyfroth — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 21:38:07 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
@davewil1964 wrote:
The plastic produce bags have been available in my Woolies for yonks.

I don't buy them. The free ones are still available and they get at least a second life as freezer bags.
Yes I use the produce bags and kitchen tidy bin liners, and sometimes as freezer bags.

That should read: "Yes I use the produce bags as kitchen tidy bin liners, and sometimes as freezer bags."

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

joztamps — Sun, 06 Sep 2020 01:06:59 GMT

It would seem to me that there is very little environmentally beneficial in using these paper bags if

- the initial manufacture and supply involves shipping the materials to Asia, then shipping them to Australia, and

- their re-cycling and re-use involves the same two-way process over again.

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

joztamps — Sun, 06 Sep 2020 01:26:27 GMT

On 2nd thoughts, bags made of plastic and recycled paper couldn't be recycled anyway**, so your choice is between multi-use bags made of recycled plastic, or single-use bags made of plastic and recycled paper - each of which go straight to landfill when you put them out on the curb (even if you put the pseudo-paper ones in your recycling bin).

** Woolworths are notably silent on this issue.

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

zanadoo_56 — Sun, 06 Sep 2020 01:33:27 GMT

I'm old enough to remember why we switched from paper bags to plastic ones.....to save the trees. Now we are going to back to paper bags and people are getting angry that the bags come from China instead of Oz.

Let China chop down trees to make bags if they want to. We keep our trees and the anti plastic bag group are presumably happy....until of course someone gets worried about China's trees and the whole stupid debate starts over again.

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

icyfroth — Sun, 06 Sep 2020 01:56:22 GMT

The paper bags state they are made of 70% recycled paper

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

*tippy*toes* — Sun, 06 Sep 2020 03:46:07 GMT

I shop at both Woolies and IGA. IGA has had paper bags for yonks. They still offer free plastic bags (which I use as bin liners),. but you can buy the paper bags for 10c I think.

We recently changed our phones over to Woolworths Mobile. It's run on the Tel$tra network, way cheaper than Tel$tra and the best part is, once a month you can get 10% off your groceries if you have a rewards card. So, if you just do one big shop a fortnight or month, the savings soon add up. Our saving each month pays for the cost of a phone recharge with change.

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

joztamps — Sun, 06 Sep 2020 20:59:26 GMT

@zanadoo_56 wrote:

I'm old enough to remember why we switched from paper bags to plastic ones.....to save the trees. Now we are going to back to paper bags and people are getting angry that the bags come from China instead of Oz.

Let China chop down trees to make bags if they want to. We keep our trees and the anti plastic bag group are presumably happy....until of course someone gets worried about China's trees and the whole stupid debate starts over again.

The issue is not where they come from, the issue is whether on a Life-Cycle Assessment/Analysis these PR-inspired single-use bags are more or less environmentally sustainable and efficient than the multi-use plastic bags.

China and Australia are part of the same world and the same environment.

Re: Why I Pick Woolies!

springyzone — Sun, 06 Sep 2020 22:39:42 GMT

The only problem with the paper bags is when they get damp, as they will do if you buy any frozen produce, the bottom falls out of them.

That's what i remember most from the past.

I usually use a set of trolley bags when I do the shopping. They are good but a bit flimsy. I have been using mine a year or two now but the dowling inner bit at tyhe top of the bags has snapped on a couple, have had to take it out and tape it up. Main problem with bags if they are too big is weight when filled.

For on the run purchases, I have a small fold up bag in my handbag. I haven't bought a bag in ages.