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Djokovic disqualified from US Open

davidc4430 — Sun, 06 Sep 2020 23:11:47 GMT

Novak Djokovic disqualified from US Open after inadvertently hitting line judge with ball

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-07/djokovic-defaulted-at-us-open-for-hitting-line-judge-with-ball/12635584

i wonder if it would have gone differently if there was a full crowd

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

repentatleisure1952 — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 00:00:24 GMT

Great news!

A crowd being present does not change the rules.

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

freddie*rooster — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 02:38:06 GMT

I'm a bit conflicted about the outcome of this action. It is not

a one off action of hitting the ball back toward the ball person. The

players all hit the ball back to the ball boy/girl. The angle I looked

at didn't appear to be a deliberate action of lining up the linesperson.

Had he had words with that particular linesperson?

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

icyfroth — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 02:48:28 GMT

@freddie*rooster wrote:
I'm a bit conflicted about the outcome of this action. It is not

a one off action of hitting the ball back toward the ball person. The

players all hit the ball back to the ball boy/girl. The angle I looked

at didn't appear to be a deliberate action of lining up the linesperson.

Had he had words with that particular linesperson?

Sounds to me like he was being a drama Llama, throwing a tantrum, and the ball he threw with some force hit an innocent person.

I don't follow tennis, but to me, that's not tennis. That's just bad manners.

He deserves his supension.

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

freddie*rooster — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 03:04:56 GMT

I wonder if the same would apply if it was to happen from a

serve which the receiver missed returning that collected

the linesperson?

I just looked at it from a different angle and i'm leaning more

toward the disqualification was warranted. He would have been

aware of the position of the linesperson compared to where the

ball boy/girl would have been standing. I hope it's opened the gate

for Alex De Minaur to progress further.

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

icyfroth — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 03:11:40 GMT

@freddie*rooster wrote:
I wonder if the same would apply if it was to happen from a

serve which the receiver missed returning that collected

the linesperson?

I just looked at it from a different angle and i'm leaning more

toward the disqualification was warranted. He would have been

aware of the position of the linesperson compared to where the

ball boy/girl would have been standing. I hope it's opened the gate

for Alex De Minaur to progress further.

Yeah well. Not being a follower of tennis, I can't really comment on the angles and the dangles.

Fact is, he threw a tantrum and injured an innocent person.

That's just not tennis IMO!

That's just playing up to the cameras!

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

not_for_sale — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 03:12:49 GMT

@freddie*rooster wrote:
I'm a bit conflicted about the outcome of this action. It is not

a one off action of hitting the ball back toward the ball person. The

players all hit the ball back to the ball boy/girl. The angle I looked

at didn't appear to be a deliberate action of lining up the linesperson.

Had he had words with that particular linesperson?

The video shows he hit the ball in the direction of the linesperson, with force and through the air, not along the ground. It hit her in the throat. It didn't look like he intentionally hit her, but it did look like he was reckless and inconsiderate of who it might or might not hit. IMO he deserved to be disqualified and I hope it scares other arrogant ill tempered players who do the same thing.

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

cezm — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 06:39:23 GMT

@freddie*rooster wrote:
I wonder if the same would apply if it was to happen from a

serve which the receiver missed returning that collected

the linesperson?

I don't think so ...

"In accordance with the Grand Slam rulebook, following his actions of intentionally hitting a ball dangerously or recklessly within the court or hitting a ball with negligent disregard of the consequences, the US Open tournament referee defaulted Novak Djokovic from the 2020 US Open," the statement read.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-07/djokovic-defaulted-at-us-open-for-hitting-line-judge-with-ball/12635584

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

the_bob_delusion — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 07:01:49 GMT

I call sexism.

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

davidc4430 — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 07:05:08 GMT

players losing it is nothing new, i'm surprised innocent bystanders dont get hurt more often

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMx4eGlom2E

i think the disqualification should be across the board

throwing a racket should get you kicked out too

once it leaves the hand it could go anywhere

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

davewil1964 — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 07:36:17 GMT

As Nick Kyrios said on social media -

Swap me for jokers incident. ‘Accidentally hitting the ball kid in the throat’ how many years would I be banned for?

Getting disqualified from the tournament is the by the book punishment. No more or less.

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

icyfroth — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 09:35:30 GMT

@davewil1964 wrote:
As Nick Kyrios said on social media -

Swap me for jokers incident. ‘Accidentally hitting the ball kid in the throat’ how many years would I be banned for?

Getting disqualified from the tournament is the by the book punishment. No more or less.

He apolgised and I think he was sincerley sorry.

"Djokovic did not speak to the press after the match, but released a statement on Instagram soon after, apologising again.

"This whole situation has left me really sad and empty," Djokovic said.

"I checked on the linesperson and the tournament told me that thank God she is feeling ok. I'm extremely sorry to have caused her such stress. So unintended. So wrong.

"As for the disqualification, I need to go back within and work on my disappointment and turn this all into a lesson for my growth and evolution as a player and human being.

"I apologise to the US Open tournament and everyone associated for my behaviour. I'm very grateful to my team and family for being my rock support, and my fans for always being there with me. Thank you and I'm so sorry."

Players like need to quit playing up to the media with their tantrums on court and just deliver a good game.

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

davewil1964 — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 09:42:27 GMT

But he wasn't game to front the press.

After his COVID antics, he's not looking too flash.

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

icyfroth — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 09:49:26 GMT

@davewil1964 wrote:
But he wasn't game to front the press.

After his COVID antics, he's not looking too flash.

Who would be? At least he had the decency to be ashamed, and aplogise for his actions instead of playing the smart- rrrs like some others.

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

davewil1964 — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 09:59:15 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
@davewil1964 wrote:
But he wasn't game to front the press.

After his COVID antics, he's not looking too flash.
Who would be? At least he had the decency to be ashamed, and aplogise for his actions instead of playing the smart- rrrs like some others.

Anybody who was truly remorseful

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

the_bob_delusion — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 10:39:54 GMT

@davewil1964 wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@davewil1964 wrote:
But he wasn't game to front the press.

After his COVID antics, he's not looking too flash.
Who would be? At least he had the decency to be ashamed, and aplogise for his actions instead of playing the smart- rrrs like some others.
Anybody who was truly remorseful

If he was a woman and black, they'll consider him a hero.

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

not_for_sale — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 10:57:35 GMT

@the_bob_delusion wrote:
@davewil1964 wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@davewil1964 wrote:
But he wasn't game to front the press.

After his COVID antics, he's not looking too flash.
Who would be? At least he had the decency to be ashamed, and aplogise for his actions instead of playing the smart- rrrs like some others.
Anybody who was truly remorseful
If he was a woman and black, they'll consider him a hero.

Sexist and racist, hmmm. Are you suggesting she would be considered a hero if it were Serena Williams? I think your preoccupation with discrimination has led you to miss the main factor - she is American.

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

rogevibe — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 12:10:06 GMT

Regarding line judges is not their job to keep their eyes on the ball and so expected to duck , grin and bare the affront of such an incident with good grace - however if the national culture is of a precious nature.... i can quite well understand the ruling.

Not sure whether a bowler in cricket would have suffered censure for similar.

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

not_for_sale — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 12:16:54 GMT

@rogevibe wrote:
Regarding line judges is not their job to keep their eyes on the ball and so expected to duck , grin and bare the affront of such an incident with good grace - however if the national culture is of a precious nature.... i can quite well understand the ruling.
Not sure whether a bowler in cricket would have suffered censure for similar.

If a bowler drilled the cricket ball at the umpire and hit him in the throat, the bowler would be out for life.

Re: Djokovic disqualified from US Open

rogevibe — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 12:25:20 GMT

@not_for_sale wrote:
@rogevibe wrote:
Regarding line judges is not their job to keep their eyes on the ball and so expected to duck , grin and bare the affront of such an incident with good grace - however if the national culture is of a precious nature.... i can quite well understand the ruling.
Not sure whether a bowler in cricket would have suffered censure for similar.

If a bowler drilled the cricket ball at the umpire and hit him in the throat, the bowler would be out for life.

Was clearly unintentional - unless Djokovic has eyes at the back of his head - just trying to think of a comparable case in cricket - just for interest sake , i mean tennis rules are tennis rules , i am not disputing the ruling