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Man jailed for attempted kidnapping

davidc4430 — Tue, 22 Sep 2020 08:57:02 GMT

Man jailed for attempted kidnapping of child from father's arms outside Melbourne library

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-22/michael-rawson-court-attempted-kidnap-child-from-fathers-arms/12688110

well done coppers, release a man off his head on drugs into the community!

this could have ended so badly!

Re: Man jailed for attempted kidnapping

lionrose.7 — Tue, 22 Sep 2020 09:33:42 GMT

OMg have scary for the father and child, worst nightmare

Re: Man jailed for attempted kidnapping

tasfleur — Tue, 22 Sep 2020 22:32:18 GMT

... That has left me speechless. To try to grab a child tells me that the drug addict is also most likely a paedophile. I would like him to have been locked up for much much longer.

Re: Man jailed for attempted kidnapping

davewil1964 — Tue, 22 Sep 2020 22:46:46 GMT

He apparently thought the child was his. Hardly paedophilia.

Pays to check the facts.

Re: Man jailed for attempted kidnapping

tasfleur — Tue, 22 Sep 2020 23:11:19 GMT

There are no obvious 'facts' available in terms of what was/is in the nature of the male who tried to take the child.

From where I stand, he is a danger to children and that is an opinion I will stay with for now ..

Re: Man jailed for attempted kidnapping

4channel — Tue, 22 Sep 2020 23:32:45 GMT

Annother drug crazed menace with possiblle mental issues. Anyway, these ice dealers have a lot to answer for. I'm against the death penalty but I believe Singapore style punishment should be brought in. I can't remember if it was Singapore or another country where in addition to custodial sentencing, corporal punishment was admiinistered at intervals.

Re: Man jailed for attempted kidnapping

springyzone — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 00:22:02 GMT

Whichever way you look at it, that man is a danger to society.

I'm a bit over people who try to use drug taking as an excuse for their actions.

He says he thought it was his child and he only wanted to give it a hug but I have my doubts he would even clearly remember everything or even why he was violently trying to take the child.

He had only been released on bail that very day. Personally, I wouldn't have any trouble with the idea he had to serve every day of his 4 year sentence & it's a shame he probably won't.

Re: Man jailed for attempted kidnapping

tasfleur — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 00:42:58 GMT

Totally agree with you Springyzone. He is indeed a danger to society as a whole as well.

Re: Man jailed for attempted kidnapping

imastawka — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 01:08:41 GMT

OMG, that video is scary. That poor kid. I hope he doesn't suffer from the experience.

What's even more scary is the fact that it is my local cop shop.

I know police get moved around, but a lot stay at the same station for years, and that's a worry.

Anyone remember this one? -

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-24/police-officers-guilty-unlawful-assault-on-disability-pensioner/12488008

Are the same numnuts still working there?

I hope dad sues. This idiot can be back on the streets in 17 months

Re: Man jailed for attempted kidnapping

bright.ton42 — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 01:14:50 GMT

General question ...

when a felon is released on bail from a cop shop who makes that decision, does anyone know? Is it the police or is a judge involved?

Re: Man jailed for attempted kidnapping

imastawka — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 01:30:50 GMT

Usually a magistrate is involved, but on police advice, or have no objections, I believe

Re: Man jailed for attempted kidnapping

springyzone — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 01:47:21 GMT

Just a general reply, not to stawka in particular, just hers was the last post.

My brother in law works ina prison and he has often said we'd all be terrified if we knew what was walking the streets. That quite a few very violent people eventually end up on parole and they are walking time bombs. He says there are as many out as are in.

Re: Man jailed for attempted kidnapping

lyhargr_0 — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 01:54:43 GMT

@bright.ton42 wrote:
General question ...
when a felon is released on bail from a cop shop who makes that decision, does anyone know? Is it the police or is a judge involved?

In Vic if a person is before the court it would be either a magistrate of judge who would be responsible for granting bail. In an out of hours situation ie police station, it is usual for bail to be granted/refused by either a court appointed Bail Justice or Justice of the Peace. Police can oppose that bail be/not be granted but they cant enforce it either way

Re: Man jailed for attempted kidnapping

countessalmirena — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 05:02:49 GMT

I do not doubt that at all, Springyzone.

That would be a case of better in than out.

Re: Man jailed for attempted kidnapping

4channel — Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:11:29 GMT

I just hope that after the guy has served his time he can become a productive member of society. The drugs are a major part of his life at the moment. The problem is that with criminals that are being sentenced they're not being looked after inside properly. And the resources are not there to manage their environment when they come out.