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icac's and inquiries

davidc4430 — Mon, 12 Oct 2020 22:33:15 GMT

its not hard to see why govts are loath to start inquiries or build a true ICAC

history shows often its those who start them who suffer the most

Chris Eccles, Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews' top bureaucrat, resigns after hotel quarantine inquiry requests phone records

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-12/premier-daniel-andrews-dept-head-chris-eccles-resigns/12753610

dans got himself in a mess, no amount of hand washing will get the dirt off his hands

in NSW gladys is in a similar situation

the spin doctors will be earning their keep these next days/weeks

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freddie*rooster — Mon, 12 Oct 2020 22:50:27 GMT

Has the Ruby Princess debarkle been swept under the grubby mat?

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icyfroth — Tue, 13 Oct 2020 02:38:58 GMT

No, it's been dealt with by a competent and responsible Premier.

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myoclon1cjerk — Tue, 13 Oct 2020 04:18:46 GMT

https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/property/2020/10/13/property-developers-berejiklian-pascoe/

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tezza2844 — Tue, 13 Oct 2020 10:32:08 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
No, it's been dealt with by a competent and responsible Premier.

And yet how many state or federal ministers were called to testify before the "enquiry" and who was really responsible for the passengers being given a free pass to return to all states in Australia:

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davewil1964 — Tue, 13 Oct 2020 10:56:53 GMT

According to the law it was a Commonwealth responsibility. Something that seems to have been deflected.

Especially by the PM, who dumped it squarely in the lap of the states.

There's leadership for you.

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tezza2844 — Tue, 13 Oct 2020 11:00:21 GMT

@davewil1964 wrote:
According to the law it was a Commonwealth responsibility. Something that seems to have been deflected.

Especially by the PM, who dumped it squarely in the lap of the states.

There's leadership for you.

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johcaschro — Tue, 13 Oct 2020 11:51:15 GMT

https://theaimn.com/bad-form-old-chap/

Yep, this is our inglorious leader.

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davewil1964 — Tue, 13 Oct 2020 12:00:31 GMT

He obviously misplaced his energy source.

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johcaschro — Tue, 13 Oct 2020 12:03:46 GMT

He knew full well it wasn't renewable

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davewil1964 — Tue, 13 Oct 2020 12:15:14 GMT

There's plenty of coal underneath arable land.

All he's got to do is convince the farmers that strip-mining their land will be beneficial to them.

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chameleon54 — Tue, 13 Oct 2020 14:18:18 GMT

https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/covid-lockdown-victorian-premier-may-have-lied-about-curfew-advice/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8821271/Former-Victorian-health-minister-accuses-Premier-Dan-Andrews-lying.html

With accusations of Victorian Labor premier, Daniel Andrews lying to the COVID royal commission coming left, right and centre from a number of senior people, you would have to think where there's smoke there's fire. If he survives the no confidence motion, he will be a lame duck leader for the rest of his term in office.

Andrews disastrous handling of the Victorian COVID outbreaks and alleged regular porkies to the public are looking more and more like Australia's version of Donald Trump.

While they might not admit it, even the most rusted on Labor supporters would have to be questioning what they have got themselves into by voting Andrews into office.

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icyfroth — Tue, 13 Oct 2020 20:08:10 GMT

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bright.ton42 — Tue, 13 Oct 2020 22:01:48 GMT

@chameleon54 wrote:
https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/covid-lockdown-victorian-premier-may-have-lied-

Andrews disastrous handling of the Victorian COVID outbreaks

You mean how he's brought down the daily outbreaks from around 400 to an average daily of 9.6?

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davidc4430 — Tue, 13 Oct 2020 22:39:53 GMT

as a reportadly 'rusted on labor supporter' notice i began this thread pointing out daniel a labor premier has soiled his hand badly with the hotel security saga.

however remember he hadnt had to handle a pandemic before and so mistakes were likely to be made.

unlike ms gladys who knew in 2015 the guy was trouble but kept their relationship hidden until it blew up in her face.

i have no sympathy for her.

will either survive their mistakes?

who knows but hers is worse than his IMO

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debra9275 — Wed, 14 Oct 2020 01:19:08 GMT

so if this man from NSW was selling visas to the Chinese for cash.....wouldn't the approvals have to come through from the Fed Govt?? Am I wrong in thinking this?

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debra9275 — Wed, 14 Oct 2020 01:24:36 GMT

@chameleon54 wrote:
https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/covid-lockdown-victorian-premier-may-have-lied-about-curfew-advice/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8821271/Former-Victorian-health-minister-accuses-Premier-Dan-Andrews-lying.html

With accusations of Victorian Labor premier, Daniel Andrews lying to the COVID royal commission coming left, right and centre from a number of senior people, you would have to think where there's smoke there's fire. If he survives the no confidence motion, he will be a lame duck leader for the rest of his term in office.

Andrews disastrous handling of the Victorian COVID outbreaks and alleged regular porkies to the public are looking more and more like Australia's version of Donald Trump.

While they might not admit it, even the most rusted on Labor supporters would have to be questioning what they have got themselves into by voting Andrews into office.

despite our travel limitations etc. a truck driver took the virus from Chadstone to Kilmore.. then on to Shepparton where a number of people are now infected.. he failed to tell the contact tracers that he even went there.

i'll wait for the outcome of the HQI before jumping to any conclusions about Andrews lying

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debra9275 — Wed, 14 Oct 2020 01:26:01 GMT

@tezza2844 wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
No, it's been dealt with by a competent and responsible Premier.
And yet how many state or federal ministers were called to testify before the "enquiry" and who was really responsible for the passengers being given a free pass to return to all states in Australia:

not ONE!

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hannahmallory — Wed, 14 Oct 2020 01:26:41 GMT

A week is a long time in politics. Two may not make it to Friday. One of them won't be Daniel Andrews.

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icyfroth — Wed, 14 Oct 2020 05:07:58 GMT

@hannahmallory wrote:
A week is a long time in politics. Two may not make it to Friday. One of them won't be Daniel Andrews.

There's another saying:

Last week's rooster is tomorrow's feather duster.