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"Horse Racing/Riding is Cruel and should be Banned" Change my mind.

the_bob_delusion — Mon, 02 Nov 2020 22:45:50 GMT

Try your best.

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davidc4430 — Mon, 02 Nov 2020 23:47:40 GMT

absolutly

dog racing as well

once the truth comes out as it has there is no excuse for continuing to abuse animals for entertainment/gambling

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lyndal1838 — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 00:26:19 GMT

There may be an argument for racing being cruel, but why do you think riding of any persuasion is cruel?

Where would the world be today without horses?

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davidc4430 — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 00:34:45 GMT

where would the world be without slavery during the 1800s?

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not_for_sale — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 01:03:30 GMT

Some would argue we invented a very convenient word to cover up animal slavery. It's called "pets".

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imastawka — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 01:27:13 GMT

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the_bob_delusion — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 01:50:32 GMT

@davidc4430 wrote:
where would the world be without slavery during the 1800s?

I couldn't think of a better analogy than that. The psychology is similar. First they have they have their spirits broken, then they learn to serve humans because they no longer have the will to resist. It is a conditioning that occurs in the brain.

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domino-710 — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 02:14:50 GMT

Racing aside - I don't condone it.

You very obviously have no idea of the relationship that can exist between a horse & it's rider.

None.

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4channel — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 02:20:28 GMT

Re: "Horse Racing/Riding is Cruel and should be Banned" Change my mind.

@the_bob_delusion wrote:

Try your best.

It probably shoulld be banned but what will rise to promiinence in its absense? Cage fighting? The racing industry involves a lot of people and jobs.

Using animals for entertainment is cruel if the animals are being forced to do things. And the Royal Family should be charged with cruelty for their fox hunts.

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the_bob_delusion — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 02:30:04 GMT

@domino-710 wrote:
Racing aside - I don't condone it.

You very obviously have no idea of the relationship that can exist between a horse & it's rider.

None.

You're right. Kinda like Stockholm Syndrome.

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domino-710 — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 02:38:15 GMT

LOL and Torro Dust.

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lionrose.7 — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 03:04:42 GMT

Unless you have a cat then you are the slave

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not_for_sale — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 03:25:54 GMT

Oh so true.

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lalbo-81 — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 03:38:47 GMT

@lionrose.7 wrote:
Unless you have a cat then you are the slave

I'm fine with worshipping cats, they deserve it. I am not an acolyte at present, but will be again very soon. Now ferrets, that is a different story. I loved my husband more than my own life, but his ferrets went home with my children when my husband passed on, we just didn't like each other. Now I have bats instead,we like each other. And they're happy with living outside. At least so far.

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imastawka — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 04:15:54 GMT

I just watched the Melbourne Cup....and every one of those horses was whipped all the way home.

Hasn't this barbaric practice been outlawed yet?

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lionrose.7 — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 04:55:56 GMT

I just watched it and could see some of those horses were pushed to far to soon, really sad

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cezm — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 05:13:26 GMT

@imastawka wrote:
I just watched the Melbourne Cup....and every one of those horses was whipped all the way home.

Hasn't this barbaric practice been outlawed yet?

and another one dies

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-03/melbourne-cup-horse-anthony-van-dyck-dies-after-race/12844152

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davidc4430 — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 07:50:38 GMT

this horse must be happy?

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davidc4430 — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 07:52:04 GMT

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*tippy*toes* — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 10:31:18 GMT

@imastawka wrote:
I just watched the Melbourne Cup....and every one of those horses was whipped all the way home.

Hasn't this barbaric practice been outlawed yet?

I wonder how many jockeys would like to cop 1,000 lashes from a rattan, on a regular basis? Yet, they think it's acceptable to whip a horse to within an inch of its life. I grew up on horses. I NEVER once used a whip of any kind. Seeing people that did really upset me.

I also had a horse that broke a fetlock. Same as the horse that was murdered today. It took time, but he recovered. Racehorse trainers aren't interested in helping the horse recover. It's easier to shoot them and claim the insurance. No concern for the horse whatsoever. It's all about money.

It's time this barbaric "sport" was banned. Not riding horses in general, there is a place for that. What needs to be stopped is the abuse in the racing industry.

Most of the horses imported from overseas to race, never go home because the costs are prohibitive. If the winner today goes home it will be a miracle. Most will find themselves in a kill pen inside a week.