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Becoming homeless - How an event creates a downward slide

4channel — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 03:26:05 GMT

A man loses his wife and the impact of that and the attempt to cope with the lost causes him to be evicted from his home.

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Evicted After Wife Died, Now Homeless in Venice Beach
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Simba (street name) met his wife fishing. I love that. Sadly, Simba's wife was very sick from complications with diabetes. She needed a kidney transplant. Simba's wife was on the transplant list at USC Medical Center, but while she was waiting for a donor, her health got worse. The emotional stress of being her caregiver was hard enough; when his wife died, Simba became severely depressed. He started to self medicate with marijuana to help him sleep. This was four years ago, and people's views of marijuana were much different then. Today, it probably would not even be an issue, but Simba's landlord used his cannabis use to evict him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLkRvfIQ90c

This was beyond his control and because of an unfair reason he is now on the streets at age 65.

Re: Becoming homeless - How an event creates a downward slide

domino-710 — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 03:40:17 GMT

Your point. ???????

Re: Becoming homeless - How an event creates a downward slide

gutterpunkz05 — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 03:56:36 GMT

Death and Taxes are the only 2 gaurantees in life, so they say. People, often through no fault of there own, become homeless everyday. Could be anyone of us, who knows what the future may bring

Re: Becoming homeless - How an event creates a downward slide

feloniexyz — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 04:19:19 GMT

Self Medicate lol .

Sounds much better than " he turned into a drug addict"

People die , it's part of life .

The strong survive , and in many cases, become better people for the experience.

It's sad for someone to end up homeless, but it's not the end of the line . Only he can turn his life around, or fate may hand him a break .

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not_for_sale — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 05:59:03 GMT

Sure, it's a sad story. The use of marijuana can ease depression or make it worse. But he made the choice. I assume he also knew the rules that applied in his residence. The Landlord probably had no choice. Life sucks at times, but he will have to bounce back, if he's up to it.

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ambercat16 — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 06:10:54 GMT

So, who is he blaming? His wife for getting sick, the hospital for not finding a donor kidney soon enough, the dealers who sold him the marijuana or the landlord who kicked him out? Or himself?

Yes, it is a sad story and one which you will hear in many variations wherever you find homeless people. I do note that this happened in USA - but I'm sure there are similar cases in Australia.

But where is the solution? When our government and the majority of our voting population (well, how else did this govt get elected?) are as mean spirited and nasty as they are, what can be done?

Re: Becoming homeless - How an event creates a downward slide

4channel — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 08:39:34 GMT

@feloniexyz wrote:
Self Medicate lol .

Sounds much better than " he turned into a drug addict"

People die , it's part of life .
The strong survive , and in many cases, become better people for the experience.

It's sad for someone to end up homeless, but it's not the end of the line . Only he can turn his life around, or fate may hand him a break .

Well, he was only on the weed. Sadly for him he broke the rules. Sadly for him he didn'rt have anything left to fall back on.

@not_for_sale wrote:

Sure, it's a sad story. The use of marijuana can ease depression or make it worse. But he made the choice. I assume he also knew the rules that applied in his residence. The Landlord probably had no choice. Life sucks at times, but he will have to bounce back, if he's up to it.

I hope he bounces back. The problem is that the US is run by greedy corporations with elected (so-called) mouth pieces who are powerless to change the bad situation for the suffering-class even if they wanted to.

I hear you but how can a 65 year old Afican American man with depression lingering due to the loss of his wife bounce back?

Re: Becoming homeless - How an event creates a downward slide

feloniexyz — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 08:53:55 GMT

Where there's a will, there's a way.

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4channel — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 09:53:46 GMT

Well maybe Simba can. He comes across and an intelligent and articulate man. Maybe a helping hand to start with.

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lyndal1838 — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 09:55:41 GMT

What has being African American go to do with anything?

Are you suggesting that an African American is somehow weaker willed than any other race or should received special attention?

I can assure you that my 82 year old father was devastated when he lost Mum after nearly 60 years together but he got through it and lasted another 10 years.

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4channel — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 09:58:18 GMT

@lyndal1838 wrote:

What has being African American go to do with anything?

Are you suggesting that an African American is somehow weaker willed than any other race or should received special attention?

I can assure you that my 82 year old father was devastated when he lost Mum after nearly 60 years together but he got through it and lasted another 10 years.

Why would you come across like that lyndal? You know very well what I meant! African Americans are treated poorly in the USA and have to deal with systemic racism, some on a daily basis.

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lyndal1838 — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 10:09:28 GMT

I do not know what you meant....nowhere did you say that there was racism or discrimination involved.....just a man who turned to drugs to cope with life and obviously broke the rules imposed by his landlord.

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not_for_sale — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 10:09:30 GMT

@4channel wrote:

@not_for_sale wrote:

Sure, it's a sad story. The use of marijuana can ease depression or make it worse. But he made the choice. I assume he also kn
ew the rules that applied in his residence. The Landlord probably had no choice. Life sucks at times, but he will have to bounce back, if he's up to it.
I hope he bounces back. The problem is that the US is run by greedy corporations with elected (so-called) mouth pieces who are powerless to change the bad situation for the suffering-class even if they wanted to.

I hear you but how can a 65 year old Afican American man with depression lingering due to the loss of his wife bounce back?

Dig deep. Your concept of this man is only in your head. You may be introjecting and judging his potential to dig deep by your potential. He may have reserve strengths buried inside his sadness at the moment. Don't give up hope for him.

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4channel — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 10:28:23 GMT

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It's nothiong to do with my potential or what you suggest it to be D.

I hope he can find a way or reserve strength.

He lives in the US. The US is a joke. Systemic racism is galvannized to the country's structure. Look at the past presidents and the corruption. Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump. The worst of the worst in humanity! The most filthy lies and immorality is exemplified in every onne of it's presidents of the past 30 plus years.

Man .... the crooked Nixon even shines above these pigs.

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not_for_sale — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 11:10:41 GMT

@4channel wrote:

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Dig deep. Your concept of this man is only in your head. You may be introjecting and judging his potential to dig deep by your potential. He may have reserve strengths buried inside his sadness at the moment. Don't give up hope for him.

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It's nothiong to do with my potential or what you suggest it to be D.

I hope he can find a way or reserve strength.

He lives in the US. The US is a joke. Systemic racism is galvannized to the country's structure. Look at the past presidents and the corruption. Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump. The worst of the worst in humanity! The most filthy lies and immorality is exemplified in every onne of it's presidents of the past 30 plus years.

Man .... the crooked Nixon even shines above these pigs.

Lets hope he doesn't hate his country as much as you seem to. Lets hope he can re-gather his strength and his faith in his own abilities, despite the challenges he may confront.

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4channel — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 12:20:37 GMT

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@4channel wrote:

It's nothiong to do with my potential or what you suggest it to be D.

I hope he can find a way or reserve strength.

He lives in the US. The US is a joke. Systemic racism is galvannized to the country's structure. Look at the past presidents and the corruption. Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump. The worst of the worst in humanity! The most filthy lies and immorality is exemplified in every onne of it's presidents of the past 30 plus years.

Man .... the crooked Nixon even shines above these pigs.
@not_for_sale wrote:

Lets hope he doesn't hate his country as much as you seem to. Lets hope he can re-gather his strength and his faith in his own abilities, despite the challenges he may confront.

4channel writes:

I don't know why you're putting a negative spin on what I'm saying and suggesting I'm saying something additional to what I have said. That's incorrect! And I don't hate the US. I despise the corruption and I feel sickened at the low-life political figures who willingly betray their people. I'm saddened that the people of the US have been so distracted that they have had the wool pulled over their eyes yet again. And I'm disgusted that Murdoch and other media gods destroyed the last great hope for the US, Ron Paul's chances of being presidents by "Media Blackout of Ron Paul" . I just like fairness. That doesn't amount to hatred!

So let's see if this homeless gentleman at age 65 can reclaim at least some of what he once had.

A good film to watch is .... Michael Moore's Sicko and Capitalism: A Love Story.

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not_for_sale — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 13:41:52 GMT

@4channel wrote:
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@4channel wrote:

It's nothiong to do with my potential or what you suggest it to be D.

I hope he can find a way or reserve strength.

He lives in the US. The US is a joke. Systemic racism is galvannized to the country's structure. Look at the past presidents and the corruption. Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump. The worst of the worst in humanity! The most filthy lies and immorality is exemplified in every onne of it's presidents of the past 30 plus years.

Man .... the crooked Nixon even shines above these pigs.
@not_for_sale wrote:

Lets hope he doesn't hate his country as much as you seem to. Lets hope he can re-gather his strength and his faith in his own abilities, despite the challenges he may confront.
4channel writes:

I don't know why you're putting a negative spin on what I'm saying and suggesting I'm saying something additional to what I have said. That's incorrect! And I don't hate the US. I despise the corruption and I feel sickened at the low-life political figures who willingly betray their people. I'm saddened that the people of the US have been so distracted that they have had the wool pulled over their eyes yet again. And I'm disgusted that Murdoch and other media gods destroyed the last great hope for the US, Ron Paul's chances of being presidents by "Media Blackout of Ron Paul" . I just like fairness. That doesn't amount to hatred!

So let's see if this homeless gentleman at age 65 can reclaim at least some of what he once had.

A good film to watch is .... Michael Moore's Sicko and Capitalism: A Love Story.

Ok then, you don't hate the US.

"The US is a joke, systemic racism, corrupt Presidents, the most filthy lies and immorality, pigs, sickened by the low-life, and betrayers". Sorry, I must have misinterpreted what you wrote.

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4channel — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 14:08:49 GMT

@not_for_sale wrote:

Ok then, you don't hate the US.

"The US is a joke, systemic racism, corrupt Presidents, the most filthy lies and immorality, pigs, sickened by the low-life, and betrayers". Sorry, I must have misinterpreted what you wrote.

Yes you must have misinterpreted. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. These people who have betrayed their country have turned it in to a joke. There are good people in the US and what's left of the land is still good.

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not_for_sale — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 14:12:47 GMT

What do you mean you will give me the benefit of the doubt? What are you implying?

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4channel — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 14:42:53 GMT

@not_for_sale wrote:

What do you mean you will give me the benefit of the doubt? What are you implying?

Not implying anything really.

Ok then, you don't think I hate the US.

"Lets hope he doesn't hate his country as much as you seem to"

Sorry, I must have misinterpreted what you wrote as well.

All cool.