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Happy Australia Day!

icyfroth — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:33:48 GMT

All very low-key this year, and who knows if it will be celebrated at all in the years ahead, the way efforts are being ramped up to bring it down.

Still, it's a typical blazing hot blue sky like nowhere else in the world, the crickets are chirping and someone even had their mowers going this morning.

The radio is playing traditionally Aussie songs, like "True Blue" by John Williamson, and "I still call Australia Home" , by Peter Allan. "I Come From a Land Down Under", by Men at Work.

My favourite has always been "I am Australian", by the Seekers.

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dontmissthese — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 03:58:10 GMT

I hope it's a great day for all. Fingers crossed we don't see a Cronulla episode this time around.

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katistrophik — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 06:34:46 GMT

I am brought to tears by the 'I am Australian' rendition that was done as an ad for Qantas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbGuqmaDgLA

Also found this on Facebook, part of the reasoning for changing the date for Australia Day

Sorry for the scroller

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bright.ton42 — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 08:19:02 GMT

I have no problem with changing the date. If one word of the anthem can be changed then why not one date in the year. If by doing thid it could lead to a compromise of sorts. We can still have an Australia Day where we celebrate our achievements and unity but I just don't see what difference a date makes if it eases relations. .

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imastawka — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 08:51:56 GMT

May 8 - maaate

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not_for_sale — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 10:05:19 GMT

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ambercat16 — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 10:13:13 GMT

I like May 8 but I also like the idea of having the Australia Day weekend at the end of January. It's just before the start of the new school year and it sort of draws a line under the summer holidays. There are a few other public holidays around early May.

I have seen one suggestion that instead of there being an Australia Day date, we should have a public holiday on the last weekend in January - even have the Friday and the Monday holidays to make a four day weekend like at easter. Might take the sting out of celebrating the actual day indigenous people were disposessed.

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the_bob_delusion — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 10:52:42 GMT

Doesn't bother me what day they have the public holiday. As long as it shuts these people up.
Was in the city where they had the Invasion day protest today. Was a sea of white people? explain that to me???

I totally understand the black aborigines affected by discrimination and racism and not given enough opportunities but why are the white aborigines complaining of the same thing??? I don't get it.

If anything, it's the Middle Eastern and the Chinese Asian that are discriminate more than the aborigines.

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katistrophik — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 11:19:12 GMT

But the Middle Eastern and Chinese aren't counted as the first Australians Bob.

I admit I do wonder how many aboriginal people actually care about this. My son is aboriginal, as is his dad, neither one really bothers, they just get on with thier life.

Instead of hearing from the white community, or those with less than 20% aborignal blood etc, I would like to hear from the true elders and tribal people how they feel.

Along with the 'Coon cheese" debate, I think we are all getting a little precious franky.

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the_great_she_elephant — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 11:20:38 GMT

the_bob_delusion wrote: I totally understand the black aborigines affected by discrimination and racism and not given enough opportunities but why are the white aborigines complaining of the same thing?

Probably for the same reason that so many men support the White Ribbon Australia Movement.

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ambercat16 — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 11:20:34 GMT

A history lesson I found on Facebook.......

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colic2bullsgirlore — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 20:09:36 GMT

@the_bob_delusion wrote:
Doesn't bother me what day they have the public holiday. As long as it shuts these people up.
Was in the city where they had the Invasion day protest today. Was a sea of white people? explain that to me???

I totally understand the black aborigines affected by discrimination and racism and not given enough opportunities but why are the white aborigines complaining of the same thing??? I don't get it.

If anything, it's the Middle Eastern and the Chinese Asian that are discriminate more than the aborigines.

https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/aboriginal-identity-who-is-aboriginal

Aboriginal Identity: Who is 'Aboriginal'?

People who identify themselves as 'Aboriginal' range from dark-skinned, broad-nosed to blonde-haired, blue-eyed people. Aboriginal people define Aboriginality not by skin colour but by relationships. Light-skinned Aboriginal people often face challenges on their Aboriginal identity because of stereotyping.

My skin is whiter than Bruce Ruxton's undies.... but I identify as a proud potatoceltic octoroon...

I can't work out whether I was part of the problem or the recipe for a solution

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springyzone — Wed, 27 Jan 2021 00:15:11 GMT

I don't really care that much what date we have a national day on but I think in all fairness we should be allowed to have one.

As for 26th Jan, I think too many people get caught up in ideas that it is 'invasion day'.

There's a bit more of a history to it than that.

Some people might be interested in this. I have copied it off a government website:

Before 1949, there was no legal concept of Australian citizenship. Every Australian was a British subject, including immigrants who arrived and became naturalised.

On 26 January 1949, the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948 introduced Australian citizenship.

Most Australians became Australian citizens at this point, although they were still British subjects. After 1949, immigrants could apply for ‘citizenship by naturalisation’.

Throughout the 1960s and 1970s, Australian citizens still had to declare their nationality as British. In 1984, the law was changed and Australian citizens were no longer British subjects.

So we could just as well argue that on 26th Jan, we are celebrating the introduction of Australian citizenship.

There's also a bit of interesting back history to Australia Day.

Have a look at this photo below.

Here's some of the story associated with it.

Did you know that the "first" Australia Day was held in July 1915 as a fundraiser for World War I?

Mrs Ellie Kirke, whose four sons were serving in the Australian Imperial Force, wrote to a Sydney newspaper in January 1915, suggesting to the Premier that "a day be set apart for the benefit of the wounded, and that it should be called Australia Day."

At the time, January 26 was known as Foundation Day.

Her call was taken up with great enthusiasm, as the gloom of Gallipoli was being channelled into a spirit of enlistment, and public giving.

Newspapers throughout the country challenged their communities to contribute funds for the injured and wounded, as well as troops overseas.

"The Scone Advocate" reported in early July 1915:
"Thousands of our brave Australian boys are sleeping their long sleep in a hostile land,and thousands more will come back to mother, wife, sister or sweetheart maimed for life. They have done their duty, are we doing ours? £2000 wanted from this district before 30tg. Will we get it? Yes, of course we will!".

So it was Foundation Day and only became Australia Day for a different purpose, a fund raiser. I can't help thinking it is a pity the fund raiser aspect doesn't still apply. How great would it be if on Australia Day (whatever day it was held on) was associated with raising funds for some cause? Maybe education or scholarships for students who show promise or something like that.

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katistrophik — Wed, 27 Jan 2021 03:49:06 GMT

I had no idea springy, that is so intereesting

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the_great_she_elephant — Wed, 27 Jan 2021 04:19:02 GMT

I've never really understod why any country needs a National Day anyway. i mean, if you know in your own heart that your country is so great why do you need a special day of flag waving and speechifying to announce the fact to the rest of the world..

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katistrophik — Wed, 27 Jan 2021 04:59:30 GMT

Not really sure, Waitangi Day in NZ, Independence Day in the USA, quiite sure there are more.....

Maybe a new name, same date and a new flag

Australian's Day

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not_for_sale — Wed, 27 Jan 2021 05:04:17 GMT

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
I've never really understod why any country needs a National Day anyway. i mean, if you know in your own heart that your country is so great why do you need a special day of flag waving and speechifying to announce the fact to the rest of the world..

I certainly do not celebrate Australia Day for the eyes of the world. I celebrate the day to share my national pride with other Australians. The problem at the moment is the 'pride' bit, but each to their own I say.

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domino-710 — Wed, 27 Jan 2021 05:05:20 GMT

I think ' Columbus Day ' more like - Australia day - celebrating the landing of Columbus.

Independence Day - more getting rid of the Brits. lol

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the_great_she_elephant — Wed, 27 Jan 2021 06:25:29 GMT

@not_for_sale wrote:
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
I've never really understod why any country needs a National Day anyway. i mean, if you know in your own heart that your country is so great why do you need a special day of flag waving and speechifying to announce the fact to the rest of the world..
I certainly do not celebrate Australia Day for the eyes of the world. I celebrate the day to share my national pride with other Australians. The problem at the moment is the 'pride' bit, but each to their own I say.

So maybe it's themselves people are trying to convince.

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lyhargr_0 — Wed, 27 Jan 2021 07:07:03 GMT

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
I've never really understod why any country needs a National Day anyway. i mean, if you know in your own heart that your country is so great why do you need a special day of flag waving and speechifying to announce the fact to the rest of the world..

But. but. but can we still have a holiday?????