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The Oscars Slap

davidc4430 — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 02:10:31 GMT

what do we think? was the joke worthy of the slap?

not in my view.

bad taste for sure.

something will smith could have addressed in a civilised manner.

no after thought sorry will cuy it, IMO

he must have the statue taken back

violence cannot be rewarded

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twyngwyn — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 02:32:54 GMT

I thought it looked pre-arranged?

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imastawka — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 02:54:58 GMT

Seems a strange thing to be provoked by.

Will and Jada have done an interview where they confessed to an open marriage.

So, you can sleep with my wife, but don't mention her hair?

Are tensions over open marriage real reason Will Smith is so volatile? Asks TOM LEONARD | Daily Mail Online

The whole Smith family are a strange bunch - maybe I shouldn't say' strange', but...unusual for a family unit.

They have an open marriage, Jada is bi, Willow is bi and Jaden is non-binary (gender fluid)

But I agree, violence is not to be tolerated.

There should be consequences IMO

From the above link -

Only belatedly last night did the Oscars bosses condemn Smith’s behaviour, saying they will ‘explore further action and consequences in according with our bylaws, standards of conduct and California law’.

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not_for_sale — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 03:10:24 GMT

Had a similar thing happened to my wife at a function, I probably would have done the same thing. Alopecia for a woman is highly stressful and Chris Rock's comments were in bad taste and offensive - he knew exactly what he was saying. But this happened at the Academy Awards and Will Smith will regret it. Racists, trolls, critics and parasites will bombard Smith (and Rock) and have a field day.

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imastawka — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 04:21:36 GMT

Will, Jada and Chris' complex history (msn.com)

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janeababe — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 04:54:44 GMT

First off, I’m not a fan of Chris Rock and I don’t particularly find him funny.
I do like Will Smith though, and I enjoy his movies.
I couldn’t tell you anything about his family, what they do, who they are…… I just don’t care tbh.

But, I did watch the slap/punch/ attack, whatever bench your sitting on as to what actually happened.

My 2 cents worth is that Chris overstepped a line. I know that comedians often roast well known persons, but to try and get some cheap laughs at the expense of a persons medical condition, is a shot below the belt and shouldn’t have happened.

HOWEVER……. Will Smith could have asked for an apology. His stomping up on stage to whack Chris in front of everyone, was, IMO, more about putting himself in the limelight, than it was about defending his wife’s honour.

His behaviour was MORE inappropriate than what Chris said.
Will should have been asked to leave. His behaviour was deplorable.

Then, when Will stood at the podium giving his acceptance speech, THAT would have been the time to apologise to Chris for his p1ss-poor behaviour. Not an online written apology the next day.

My 2 cents. 😉

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k1ooo-slr-sales — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 05:20:30 GMT

Chris Rock has previously joked about Smith's wife at the Oscars in 2016.

Rock was poking the bear. Sooner or later that bear is going to react.

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domino-710 — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 05:24:54 GMT

Well - here's my 3 cents worth.

To answer firstly David - ' was the ' joke ' worthy of the slap - YES - the condition is no joke.

' Bad taste ' - indeed - on Rock's part.

' Something Smith could have addressed in a civilised manner ' - of course - but some emotions for those we care about - overide what we should have done/did.

Further : The Oscar was Wills - he was judged and found the best - the Awards are simply the giving.

As far as giving it back - NO - he earnt it - for his ability to act - nothing to do with the events of the evening.

And finally it's Hollywood - what do you think they are going to hand out to the Smiths - between them 350 million - hello - Royalty.

As far as apologies go - both should be doing it.

And no - I certainly do not condone violence in any way shape of form.

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papermoon.lady — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 05:29:16 GMT

@domino-710 wrote:
As far as apologies go - both should be doing it.

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That's a good point, Dom. BOTH should apologize.

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k1ooo-slr-sales — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 06:06:17 GMT

If Will Smith had wanted to hurt Chris Rock he would have punched him. Smith knows how to deliver a punch, he played Ali in a movie and learnt to box.

From looking at Smith’s action, he delivered what I’ll term an ‘Honour Slap’. Not intended to hurt, more as exacting an honour response through use of a sweeping motion to the side of the face rather than a full front on hit.

Smith could have dropped him and knocked him out with a single front on punch to the jaw . . . if his intent was to hurt.

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domino-710 — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 06:57:42 GMT

Why would Will want to hurt Rock - it was clearly - just a ' shut up '.

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not_for_sale — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 07:03:20 GMT

I don't think any reasonable person condones violence. We are living at an odd time where political incorrectness and bad behavior have been judged and labelled by the wrong people IMO. The concepts of violence, racism, sexism, religious discrimination etc seem to be black and white, yet few people are able to clearly explain what the boundaries of each are. What seems to have been lost is the human understanding of behavior and has been replaced with an eagerness to judge and attack, rather than consideration of the circumstances and reasonableness.

What Will Smith did was upsetting and difficult to witness for me. But it is a reminder that chivalry and honour are not dead. Anybody who chooses to insult another man's wife must accept the consequences. The rules go out the gate. There are lines you do not cross unless you want to risk a hard smack in the mouth.

Of course Will Smith is now regretful because his raging hormones may have affected his reputation and acting career. But I bet as a man he feels differently. I don't see Chris Rock as the sole victim. I see him as a tactless fool who chose the wrong man's wife to bring up with insensitivity, just to get a laugh. He faced the consequences. Such is life in the male world - best to keep your mouth shut next time.

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countessalmirena — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 07:10:48 GMT

There were several things Will Smith could have done in response to whatever “joke” was said. A public slap at a prestigious world-televised event was not appropriate and I have some difficulty accepting it was spontaneous.

In the entertainment world, almost any publicity is good publicity. Admission: I don’t watch the Oscars, at least partly because it has become closed-in and rather pretentious. Ricky Gervais’ speech last year showcased some issues in how seriously movie stars and directors and this whole entertainment world take themselves. Is it possible that this slap was indeed staged, in order to get people watching and talking about the Oscars again?

Against that, it’s equally hard to imagine Will Smith risking the sort of backlash this may well entail. If he gets a reputation as a volatile over-sensitive “can’t take a joke” (even if the joke was off-colour and - as has been said - even more inappropriate) perpetrator of a public act of assault, that is going to affect who’s willing to cast him in future work.

Well, I’ve now contributed to the global response in talking about it.

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janeababe — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 07:17:52 GMT

@k1ooo-slr-sales wrote:
Chris Rock has previously joked about Smith's wife at the Oscars in 2016.

Rock was poking the bear. Sooner or later that bear is going to react.

Really?
Poking a bear over a comment from 6yrs ago?

I hardly think so….. 😑

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domino-710 — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 07:21:09 GMT

Sorry - but LOL - at his raging hormones - more I think the night was for him - in no way - a target for his family.

It was not a ' Roast ' where this is expected and accepted.

He ' slapped ' him for heavens sake - a slap on the chops for being a D*ck - which he was being.

Things really haven't changed - political correctness - knowing the boundaries - is something you deal with knowing yourself - if you wouldn't like it - nor would anyone else.

So don't do or say it.

Simples

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janeababe — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 07:29:04 GMT

https://youtu.be/myjEoDypUD8

For those who haven’t seen the full episode leading up to the slap, here it is.

Make no qualms about it, Will Smith is seen laughing at Chris Rocks joke about his wife, UNTIL she decides otherwise.
And ONLY then, did Will Smith decide the comment was out of line and thought that physical assault was the appropriate response!
Followed by a foul mouth. This language is ok for the footy field, or backyard BBQ, but definitely not for a televised black tie event.
( and I am no stranger to hearing or using the F bomb)!

While two wrongs don’t make a right, Will Smith is more in the wrong here….

So, now, that’s my 4cents worth 😉

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janeababe — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 07:52:11 GMT

@not_for_sale wrote:
I don't think any reasonable person condones violence. We are living at an odd time where political incorrectness and bad behavior have been judged and labelled by the wrong people IMO. The concepts of violence, racism, sexism, religious discrimination etc seem to be black and white, yet few people are able to clearly explain what the boundaries of each are. What seems to have been lost is the human understanding of behavior and has been replaced with an eagerness to judge and attack, rather than consideration of the circumstances and reasonableness.

What Will Smith did was upsetting and difficult to witness for me. Difficult for many to watch, going by the outcry of the general public accounts online.
But it is a reminder that chivalry and honour are not dead. Really? Punching another man over a verbal insensitive comment is a show of chivalry and honour? Hmmm 🤔
Anybody who chooses to insult another man's wife must accept the consequences. The rules go out the gate. There are lines you do not cross unless you want to risk a hard smack in the mouth. I would say those lines would be hitting on another man’s wife, sending nude pics, coming home to find another man in bed with your wife! (except in this case as it appears the Smiths have an open marriage) but you get where I’m going with this (I hope) 😑

Of course Will Smith is now regretful because his raging hormones may have affected his reputation and acting career. Or… he is regretful because he might lose his Oscar! Again I say… hmmmmm 🤔
The time to truly be regretful and offer an apology, was on stage when he was accepting his Oscar. Will managed to apologise to everyone else, it’s not like he suddenly forgot! He made the choice not to!
But I bet as a man he feels differently.
I don't see Chris Rock as the sole victim. Absolutely. Chris started this train wreck. I hope he learns a lesson from this fiasco!
I see him as a tactless fool who chose the wrong man's wife to bring up with insensitivity, just to get a laugh. He faced the consequences.

Such is life in the male world - best to keep your mouth shut next time. I do agree with this.
(It is also the same in the female world to. 😉)

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domino-710 — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 08:00:05 GMT

The upshot is - I'm not going to get my knickers in a twist about - Hollywood.

Seen it & done it. 🤣

Edited to say - 5 cents worth. lol

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not_for_sale — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 08:09:17 GMT

I take all your points janeababe. But one thing I need to stress is the so called rules and criteria for acceptable behavior differ from man to man. Add testosterone and you have an unpredictable situation that you take on at your own risk. One can judge all they like and say what the person could have, or should have done, but only a brave or foolish person finds out for real. I've got a feeling this is a Venus and Mars thing, but that's ok.

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domino-710 — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 08:54:26 GMT

What rules and criteria??? - for acceptable behaviour. - for men - any man.

It's not hard :

And :