https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236880#M80194 <P class="mce-p">I will leave you with this because I know how much you enjoy reading <span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:">😄</span></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">Pope Benedict XVI's astronomer: the Catholic Church welcomes aliens</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">Highly evolved extra terrestrial lifeforms may be living in space and would be welcomed into the church - "no matter how many tentacles", one of the Pope's astronomers has said.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">The senior Vatican scientist, Brother Guy Consolmagno, said that he would be delighted if we encountered intelligent aliens and would be happy to baptise them.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">His pronouncement opens up the possibility of space missionaries heading out to the stars to convert aliens to Christianity.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">Speaking on the eve of addressing the British Science Festival, Dr Consolmangno said he had no problem with science and religion co-existing together.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">But he dismissed Creationism and claimed that the revival of “intelligent design" – the controversial theory that only God can explain gaps in the theory of evolution – was “bad theology".</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">Dr Consolmango is one of a team of 12 astronomers working for the Vatican, said the Catholic Church had been supporting and funding science for centuries.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">He said he was "comfortable" with the idea of alien life and asked if he would baptise an alien, he replied "Only if they asked".</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">"I’d be delighted if we found life elsewhere and delighted if we found intelligent life elsewhere," he said.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">“But the odds of us finding it, of it being intelligent and us being able to communicate with it - when you add them up it’s probably not a practical question.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">“God is bigger than just humanity. God is also the god of angels.”</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">He said the characteristics synonymous with having a soul - intelligence, free will, freedom to love and freedom to make decisions may not be unique to humans.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">“Any entity – no matter how many tentacles it has has a soul,’ he said.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">However machines were unlikely to be smart or human-enough to have souls.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">Dr Consolmango, 57, the curator of the Pope's meteorite collection, is a trained astronomer and planetary scientist at the Vatican’s observatory.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">He worked as a scientist in California for 15 years before turning to the church.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">He said "intelligent design" had been "hijacked" by religious fundamentalists.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">"The word has been hijacked by a narrow group of Creationist fundamentalists in America to mean something it did not originally mean at all.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">"It’s another form of the God of the gaps," he said.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">'It’s bad theology in that it turns God once again into the pagan god of thunder and lightning.’</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">The phrase 'Intelligent Design' was centuries old and described the idea that God could be discovered in the laws of space and time and the existence of human reason..</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">The Vatican was 'very aware' of what was going on in the world of science, he added.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">The Pontifical Academy of Science, of which Stephen Hawking is a member, kept the senior cardinals and the Pope up-to-date with the latest scientific developments, he said.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 13:26:56 GMT **meep** 2012-12-29T13:26:56Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236403#M80014 <P class="mce-p">I actually met someone with a science degree today who doesn't believe in evolution and KNOWS that all humans came from Adam and Eve.:O</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">&nbsp;</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">"Why are there still monkeys today if humans evolved from monkeys?" is a common belief amongst creationists. Who here doesn't know the answer to this?</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">&nbsp;</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">Who here doesn't think that evolution is the best explanation for all the different living species on Earth today?</P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:02:56 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236403#M80014 the_bob_delusion 2012-12-29T09:02:56Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236417#M80020 <P class="mce-p"><EM>Who here doesn't think that evolution is the best explanation for all the different living species on Earth today?</EM></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">me.......</P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:05:46 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236417#M80020 azureline** 2012-12-29T09:05:46Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236429#M80026 <P class="mce-p">Humans didn't evolve from monkeys!!....... Both species evolved from a common ancestor !!</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">I believe in evolution!..... Nothing else makes sense!</P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:06:17 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236429#M80026 vintage-star 2012-12-29T09:06:17Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236441#M80030 <P class="mce-p">Me too Vin ... :-x</P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:08:02 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236441#M80030 tasfleur 2012-12-29T09:08:02Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236452#M80036 <P class="mce-p"></P><BLOCKQUOTE><TABLE border="1"><TBODY><TR><TD><P></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"><EM>Who here doesn't think that evolution is the best explanation for all the different living species on Earth today?</EM></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">&nbsp;</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">me.......</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE><P></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">And what would your theory be?</P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:09:11 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236452#M80036 the_bob_delusion 2012-12-29T09:09:11Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236459#M80040 <P class="mce-p">How could the various races come from 2 people let alone Bob and Eve ?</P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:09:16 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236459#M80040 *new2vintage 2012-12-29T09:09:16Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236470#M80045 <P class="mce-p"></P><BLOCKQUOTE><TABLE border="1"><TBODY><TR><TD><P></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">Humans didn't evolve from monkeys!!....... Both species evolved from a common ancestor !!</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">&nbsp;</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">I believe in evolution!..... Nothing else makes sense!</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE><P></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">I thought most people knew that. I was wrong. That monkey question was asked 50 years ago. I didn't realise some people can still think that.&nbsp;</P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:10:56 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236470#M80045 the_bob_delusion 2012-12-29T09:10:56Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236477#M80049 <P class="mce-p"></P><BLOCKQUOTE><TABLE border="1"><TBODY><TR><TD><P></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">How could the various races come from 2 people let alone Bob and Eve ?</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE><P></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">All existing races of people on Earth evolved from the same specie of Homo Sapien and not from 2 people.&nbsp;</P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:13:37 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236477#M80049 the_bob_delusion 2012-12-29T09:13:37Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236486#M80052 <P class="mce-p">So where does the 2 people theory come into it ?</P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:16:33 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236486#M80052 *new2vintage 2012-12-29T09:16:33Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236496#M80057 <P class="mce-p"></P><BLOCKQUOTE><TABLE border="1"><TBODY><TR><TD><P></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">&nbsp;</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">I thought most people knew that. I was wrong. That monkey question was asked 50 years ago. I didn't realise some people can still think that.&nbsp;</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE><P></P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:17:19 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236496#M80057 vintage-star 2012-12-29T09:17:19Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236505#M80062 <P class="mce-p">Was going to ask you Bob!....... Do you mean that some still believe that humans evolved from monkeys??.... Not sure what you are saying!</P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:19:39 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236505#M80062 vintage-star 2012-12-29T09:19:39Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236511#M80064 <P class="mce-p"></P><BLOCKQUOTE><TABLE border="1"><TBODY><TR><TD><P></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">Me too Vin ... :-x</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE><P></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">xx, Tas..... It is the most simple explanation!... Yep?...:)</P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:21:55 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236511#M80064 vintage-star 2012-12-29T09:21:55Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236520#M80069 <P class="mce-p">Saying some people used that monkey statement against the idea of evolution.</P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:22:48 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236520#M80069 the_bob_delusion 2012-12-29T09:22:48Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236530#M80074 <P class="mce-p"><SPAN style="color: #222222; font-size: small;">&nbsp;</SPAN></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"><SPAN style="color: #222222; font-size: small;"> How could such a complex make up of DNA have been generated randomly from non living matter? <BR /></SPAN></P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:24:38 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236530#M80074 azureline** 2012-12-29T09:24:38Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236535#M80076 <P class="mce-p"></P><BLOCKQUOTE><TABLE border="1"><TBODY><TR><TD><P></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"><SPAN style="color: #222222; font-size: small;">&nbsp;</SPAN></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"><SPAN style="color: #222222; font-size: small;"> How could such a complex make up of DNA have been generated randomly from non living matter? <BR /></SPAN></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE><P></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">You're confusing abiogenesis from evolution. Evolution explains where all the different life form emerged from .&nbsp;</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">We don't know where the 1st life comes from. Do you?</P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:27:54 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236535#M80076 the_bob_delusion 2012-12-29T09:27:54Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236551#M80083 <P class="mce-p">God.... and no, I am not confusing anything.</P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:29:00 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236551#M80083 azureline** 2012-12-29T09:29:00Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236561#M80088 <P class="mce-p">You are confusing abiogenesis from evolution.&nbsp;</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">You do realise theist used to say that because we couldn't explain why we have so many different species of animals and plants therefore God created them. Then Darwin came along.&nbsp;</P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:32:25 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236561#M80088 the_bob_delusion 2012-12-29T09:32:25Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236575#M80093 <P class="mce-p">Ok Bob!!... I get it!!</P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:33:28 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236575#M80093 vintage-star 2012-12-29T09:33:28Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236590#M80098 <P class="mce-p"><STRONG>Why are there still monkeys today if humans evolved from monkeys?</STRONG></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"><STRONG>&nbsp;</STRONG></P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"><STRONG><BR /></STRONG>We are a complete different species.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">Yes I believe in evolution there is too much proof.</P><BR /> <P class="mce-p"> </P><BR /> <P class="mce-p">We are prolly the fastest growing&nbsp;evolution animal on the earth, just look at &nbsp;how much we have changed over the centuries.</P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:34:19 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236590#M80098 crystal**flake 2012-12-29T09:34:19Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236605#M80105 <P class="mce-p">I believe in the<EM> process</EM> of evolution but I believe God provided it .....and used it..... to create all the species in the world. (and that's it from me.)</P> Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:43:40 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Who-here-doesn-t-believe-in-Evolution/m-p/236605#M80105 azureline** 2012-12-29T09:43:40Z