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Union training members to have "Structured Conversations"

catsnknots — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 22:58:48 GMT

and this is going to happen to you while you are at yoru childs sports games....

And you thought us Libs were bad for putting our opinions in a chat room....

"So we are going to be looking at a strategy where we actively mobilise our members, and we have thousands of members in some of these seats, t go out there and do this one-on-one engagement themselves. It's something that a lot of US unions did with Obama in '08 and it worked very well for them."

He said members would be trained to have "structured conversations with voters about the benefits of Labor's policy achievements. Apart from door-knocking and discussions in workplaces, unionist would be encouraged to strike up conversations with other parents when watching their children play Saturday sport.

You can thank Paul Howes and the AWU for this little initiative...

Re: Union training members to have "Structured Conversations"

catsnknots — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 23:02:31 GMT

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/awu-to-mobilise-thousands-in-marginal-seats/story-fn59niix-1226582309865

sorry.. here is the link...

if anyone wants me to post the "whole" article I will as it is behind a paywall.

Re: Union training members to have "Structured Conversations"

azureline** — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 23:48:18 GMT

Great idea.... hope all of the pollies do that... get some training in how to speak... what to say and what NOT to say. It might save us all from so much laughter, angst and confusion.

Re: Union training members to have "Structured Conversations"

lakeland27 — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 23:55:00 GMT

how are we going to rid ourselves of the one-way "structured conversations' coming from the 'news' 🙂

Re: Union training members to have "Structured Conversations"

freakiness — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 00:20:39 GMT

He also said this

'She'll be right' attitude must go- AWU

The attitude of 'she'll be right' by blue-collar workers to mental health issues will be challenged in a new campaign.

Mental health organisation Beyond Blue has teamed up with the Australian Workers' Union to tackle depression and anxiety in the workplace.

They've developed posters and wallet cards which will be distributed to the union's 140,000 members, giving them information about mental health issues and where they can get help.

AWU National Secretary Paul Howes says people often ignore the signs of mental illness for too long.

'There has been a longstanding culture of workers in blue-collar industries hiding difficulties and trying to just tough it out,' Mr Howes told the AWU national conference on the Gold Coast on Wednesday.

'As a result, problems are left untreated and allowed to spiral out of control.'

Re: Union training members to have "Structured Conversations"

lurker17260 — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 00:34:02 GMT

How can that be freaki? I thought unions only did bad things? That's what some want us to believe anyway. 😉

Re: Union training members to have "Structured Conversations"

monman12 — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 01:34:46 GMT

"how are we going to rid ourselves of the one-way "structured conversations' coming from the 'news' "
Oh dear, those bad bad naughty messengers. Shoot them perhaps?

"He said members would be trained to have "structured conversations with voters, door-knocking (and head?) and discussions in workplaces, unionist would be encouraged to strike up conversations with other parents when watching their children play Saturday sport."

The mind boggles at the thought of someone from the AWU, or even worse,the CFMEU having a structured conversation, especially(unusually) in their own time.

Re: Union training members to have "Structured Conversations"

catsnknots — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 02:34:28 GMT

I think Unions should be banned from spending it's peoples money on any political exercise.

Not everyone in a union is for the ALP.

Re: Union training members to have "Structured Conversations"

azureline** — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 02:36:20 GMT

I think Unions should be banned from spending it's peoples money on any political exercise.

Not everyone in a union is for the ALP.

even if the members agree?

Re: Union training members to have "Structured Conversations"

lakeland27 — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 02:46:39 GMT

"how are we going to rid ourselves of the one-way "structured conversations' coming from the 'news' "
Oh dear, those bad bad naughty messengers. Shoot them perhaps?

nobody said anything about shooting them, ignore and boycott them. it's a reasonable choice 🙂

Re: Union training members to have "Structured Conversations"

catsnknots — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 02:53:26 GMT

I know two people that left the union last year directly because the Unions said it was going to fund a campaign for the ALP.... they were not give a choice.

Re: Union training members to have "Structured Conversations"

lakeland27 — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 02:57:29 GMT

good riddance. people that arent prepared to contribute to the defence of their own jobs and entitlements should leave. after all, who else is going to help them. its somewhat parasitic behaviour though. there is a word for it .

Re: Union training members to have "Structured Conversations"

the_great_she_elephant — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 03:25:48 GMT

How is it different from politicians or local government candidates doorknocking or shoving leaflets in your letterbox, or Jehovah's Witnesses, or people going door to door with petitions?

Re: Union training members to have "Structured Conversations"

freakiness — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 03:53:59 GMT

The union I was in asked by taking a vote.

They also asked for campaign donations.

It's not done by deception.

Re: Union training members to have "Structured Conversations"

freakiness — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 03:56:17 GMT

I know two people that left the union last year directly because the Unions said it was going to fund a campaign for the ALP.... they were not give a choice.

Yes, they were. They chose to leave the union.

Re: Union training members to have "Structured Conversations"

lurker17260 — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 04:01:14 GMT

I know two people that left the union last year directly because the Unions said it was going to fund a campaign for the ALP.... they were not give a choice.

Did they also refuse any pay or conditions improvements the union may have negotiated for them as well?

Re: Union training members to have "Structured Conversations"

catsnknots — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 04:14:02 GMT

I was actually told how bad the unions were in the last negotiations..... but it is against the law to negotiate you own wage so they had no other legal option.