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Global Shipping Program is a scam

alwayspossible — Fri, 18 Dec 2020 01:03:17 GMT

I do not buy anymore from sellers who use this scam.(see link below)

In a few cases I asked a seller if he/she can post an item via UPS or Royal Mail and in each case they declined- consequently no deal has been made.

I have a question to Australian sellers if they have been forced by ebay Australia to use GSP or can they elect to post an item via Australia Post.

Scam like GSP and inflated postage costs in Austalia and US begin to kill trade and consequently I begin to limit my purchases.

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

kopenhagen5 — Mon, 14 Dec 2020 09:50:47 GMT

It's not a scam.

Just don't buy from sellers using it.

It's a courier service that is expensive for small items but can be very economical for larger items.

I suggest you educate yourself on the meaning of the word scam before making further defamatory remarks that leaves you open to litigation.

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

repentatleisure1952 — Mon, 14 Dec 2020 09:50:02 GMT

GSP is not available to Australian sellers.

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

lyndal1838 — Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:55:58 GMT

@alwayspossible wrote:
I do not buy anymore from sellers who use this scam.(see link below)
Do you actually know the meaning of the word scam? It is not synonymous with the GSP.
In a few cases I asked a seller if he/she can post an item via UPS or Royal Mail and in each case they declined- consequently no deal has been made.
Why on earth would you want a seller to send anything with UPS....it is arguably the most expensive private courier service servicing Australia. I suspect you mean USPS (the United States Postal Service).
I have a question to Australian sellers if they have been forced by ebay Australia to use GSP or can they elect to post an item via Australia Post.
The GSP is not available in Australia but if/when it is I think a lot of sellers may take advantage of the protections offered to them to sell internationally. The GSP offers full seller protection....the items are fully tracked and insurred and the seller has no responsibility once the item has reached the GSP hub.

Scam like GSP and inflated postage costs in Austalia and US begin to kill trade and consequently I begin to limit my purchases.
link:
https://www.change.org/p/ebay-paypal-global-shipping-program-is-a-scam
Inflated postage costs in Australia have nothing to do with the GSP so not sure how it is killing international trade. Somehow I doubt that your less than 500 ebay purchases in 15 years are going to make a huge difference to trade within Australia, or even internationally.

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

gutterpunkz05 — Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:12:38 GMT

Oh Wow, where do I sign.

Oh hang on this petition, from 7 years ago, closed with a grand total of 238 followers, Not very accurate or relevant then, and certainly not now either.

It does seem though, that the OP and the Petitioner both have little knowledge of the GSP

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

sandypebbles — Mon, 14 Dec 2020 17:33:16 GMT

So sellers won’t do as you instruct them to and so the service is a scam

That about the gist?

Because you clearly have zero idea what you are talking about

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

4channel — Tue, 15 Dec 2020 02:51:32 GMT

@alwayspossible wrote:

I do not buy anymore from sellers who use this scam.(see link below)
In a few cases I asked a seller if he/she can post an item via UPS or Royal Mail and in each case they declined- consequently no deal has been made.
I have a question to Australian sellers if they have been forced by ebay Australia to use GSP or can they elect to post an item via Australia Post.

Scam like GSP and inflated postage costs in Austalia and US begin to kill trade and consequently I begin to limit my purchases.
link:
https://www.change.org/p/ebay-paypal-global-shipping-program-is-a-scam

Hi, good post! Yes, I hear what you say and I agree. The GSP is nearly always bad news with the cost, slower service and risk of damage etc etc.. But there is good news. Most of the sellers I have asked to change to USPS First Class or the UK equivalent are more than happy too do so and some have no idea that their OS sales are going via GSP. I just ask if they could please re-list and they are happy to do so.

Just a word of caution with the very cheap Economy postage. Yeah, it's less than half the price of USPS First Class, sometimes less than a third or more, but be aware that with issues relating to Covid 19 and slower shipping, it could take longer than 2 months and tracking may be an issue. Best at this time to use it if you have a secure mail box and have dealt with that seller before.Or if the seller is well-establlished.

Best wishes, I hope you get satisfaction and sorry to hear of your frustration. Coompletely understandable!

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

4channel — Tue, 15 Dec 2020 02:59:41 GMT

Hi, here are the steps that a seller can use to opt out of GSP.

To opt out of the GSP, US sellers only have to go into

(My eBay summary page)

account > site preferences > shipping preferences > Offer the Global Shipping Program > edit > no

Hope this hellps. Some sellers may be tired and just the effort of having to work it out may be a bit much.

AFAIK this hasn't changed and should still work.

Best wishes.

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

*tippy*toes* — Thu, 17 Dec 2020 23:43:23 GMT

Scam, one of the most abused words of the 21st century. Is there anything these days that isn't a scam?

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

imastawka — Fri, 18 Dec 2020 02:44:27 GMT

It's nice to see 4channel C & P my instructions re the opt out

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

*tippy*toes* — Fri, 18 Dec 2020 22:26:54 GMT

@imastawka wrote:
It's nice to see 4channel C & P my instructions re the opt out

I thought that. He's very good at it. In fact, he's probably the C&P grand champion!

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

countessalmirena — Sat, 19 Dec 2020 06:49:14 GMT

I'm all in favour of the right information being posted and shared!

(I tend to attribute any quoted material*, but that's very much a habit.)

Stawka, the next time that I quote you or anyone, I am going to put the citation in the correct format. What's your preference - MLA, Harvard, MHRA, APS, OSCOLA, Oxford, Chicago?

You know that this means you must post something that is absolutely on point to be quoted in many situations...?

*Sometimes I have forgotten to do so, and the 5 minutes of being able to self-edit are up. I spend the rest of the night in torment, muttering words of self-reproach.

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

countessalmirena — Sun, 20 Dec 2020 06:59:42 GMT

In fact, here is the quotation complete with citation. It might come in handy, and lord oh lord, doesn't it look authoritative!

@imastawka wrote:
Re: GSP item but seller agreed to post regular

To opt out of the GSP, US sellers only have to go into (My eBay summary page) account > site preferences > shipping preferences > Offer the Global Shipping Program > edit > no

– imastawka. (2017). Re: GSP item but seller agreed to post regular. Community.ebay.com.au. Retrieved 20 December 2020, from https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Buying/GSP-item-but-seller-agreed-to-post-regular/m-p/2040733#M77388.

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

4channel — Sun, 20 Dec 2020 10:22:59 GMT

Well what I had on my notepad may have come from that Buying Forum poster imastawka that you mentioned. I had it saved from quite some time back. Not sure where that mentioned poster got it / C&P'd it from though. I think what prompted me to remember that I had it was something that nice Buying Forum poster michellebartley said some time back.

Anyway, where ever it originally came from, it is a handy thing to have. Also handy too have someone prompting me to remember.

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

davewil1964 — Sun, 20 Dec 2020 11:10:30 GMT

It is almost definitely not something Michelle would have posted. Given she doesn't post links.

Just attribute to the source and stop trying to minimise regular posters' contributions.

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

4channel — Sun, 20 Dec 2020 13:27:25 GMT

@davewil1964 wrote:
It is almost definitely not something Michelle would have posted. Given she doesn't post links.

Just attribute to the source and stop trying to minimise regular posters' contributions.

Oh dear davewil1964.

@4channel wrote:
I think what prompted me to remember that I had it was something that nice Buying Forum poster michellebartley said some time back.

Mate, davewil1964, I never said that michellebartley posted a link. I said "Forum poster michellebartley said"

And if your assumption / statement is true that michellebartley doesn't post links, that has no bearing on what she says.

And if the info on the notepad I have had for a year or two or more was originally from imastwaka (that rings a bell but I also thought maybe lyndal) then she posted something handy. That's good. And if my memory is right about the very pleasent down to earth poster michellebartley activating my memory then that's also good.

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

lyndal1838 — Sun, 20 Dec 2020 22:18:20 GMT

Definitely not from me.....I don't post links either.

It was originally posted by Stawks!

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

*tippy*toes* — Mon, 21 Dec 2020 10:14:26 GMT

"Very pleasant, down to earth poster"..............BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! That would have to be THE most hilarious thing I've read all year, especially as it was underlined. That made it even funnier. My sides hurt from laughing so hard.

Thanks 4channel, after a really carpy day, I really needed that laugh. Again, thank you.

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

grambeau1981 — Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:49:48 GMT

I wish I had of read this last week.

I just purchased my dream putter from the UK one I’ve been looking for for years $1800AUD and it was a great price.

Seller shipped via GSP.

Package was 10cm oversized so they seized it. This is a **bleep**ing joke, I don’t care I got my money back I want my putter.
I feel like I’ve been robbed because I have, years of research and hunting to have it taken off me over 10cm.
Id happily call that a Scam as even though eBay “their” faceless someone is profiting from my loss.
How do I find my putter?

Re: Global Shipping Program is a scam

kopenhagen5 — Mon, 25 Apr 2022 00:51:29 GMT

Nothing to do with eBay.

It's Pitney Bowes you need to take it up with.

However, a seller agrees to their terms and conditions when sending with the GSP.

Not much you can do as the contract was between seller and PB.

You are simply the inconvenienced buyer that has received a refund.

If for some reason PB's returns the putter to the seller, you could ask the seller if they are prepared to send via Royal Mail if they permit that length.

I am a little surprised as PB's is known for being a good service for larger items.