topic Re: Shill bidding? in Buying

Shill bidding?

lolobgo — Mon, 01 Dec 2014 21:26:31 GMT

Hi Guys,

I've been bidding on an item that has been removed before the end of the auction once before, and the guy relisted it. The guy has a 0 Feedback rate.... i thought it might have just been a newbee seller.....

Once again i bid on it, but was outbid in the last 5 minutes.... That was all good as i didn't want to pay that much anyway... but then i looked at the winners bidding details.... I dunno if i am reading this wrong, or there is shill bidding going on...

heres the details

30-Day Summary
Total bids:	18
Items bid on:	7
Bid activity (%) with this seller:	100%
Bid retractions:	0
Bid retractions (6 months):	0

Vehicle Parts & Accessories > Other	1	Seller 1	<1h
Vehicle Parts & Accessories > Classic, Vintage Parts	2	Seller 1	2d 7h
Vehicle Parts & Accessories > Vintage Car & Truck Parts	1	Seller 1	1d 15h
Vehicle Parts & Accessories > Engines, Components	10	Seller 1	1d 16h
Vehicle Parts & Accessories > Other	1	Seller 1	2d 22h
Vehicle Parts & Accessories > Engines, Components	1	Seller 1	2d
Vehicle Parts & Accessories > Other	2	Seller 1	1d 23h

I read that as the winning bidder has only bid on this particular sellers items..... And bid on all 7 of his items?

Am i reading that info right? do you guys reckon it's shill bidding?

Thanks

Re: Shill bidding?

harley_babes_hoard — Mon, 01 Dec 2014 21:38:55 GMT

affirmative.

Keep bidding on it (up to your limit) because each time he wins he is either going to have to pay fees on the sale or his cancelation rate is going to be very high.

Re: Shill bidding?

lolobgo — Mon, 01 Dec 2014 21:38:10 GMT

Thanks Harley!

I'll report it. (Probably won't do much though! LOL)

Re: Shill bidding?

lolobgo — Mon, 01 Dec 2014 21:42:17 GMT

haha! I didn't think of that!

Re: Shill bidding?

horizon1907 — Mon, 01 Dec 2014 21:45:12 GMT

I would be dubious about it. Having said that, it may just be a coincidence. I posted on the boards yesterday, pretty much the same thing. I was watching items from a particulat seller and out of 10 items, all had a couple of bids from a bidder with 100% bidding activity with this seller. You may expect a couple, but all 10. It was a definite pattern. Needless to say, I'm watching a few more items listed from the seller and guess what, the same thing is happening. 😞 Just makes me think !!!

Re: Shill bidding?

lolobgo — Mon, 01 Dec 2014 21:53:05 GMT

oh, i just checked out other completed items.... The same winner is on everything, car parts, bike parts..... with the exception of the motorbike that didn't meet the reserve!

It has to be shill bidding...

Item no. 141488133909

if you want to check it out

Re: Shill bidding?

sloanranger62 — Mon, 01 Dec 2014 22:56:15 GMT

I had the same experience several months ago bidding on stairs & concluded that with little doubt that it was shill bidding. When I posted to this board that I suspected SHELL BIDDING I was castigated uphill and downdale for even thinking it! If you search this board you will see how nasty it got.

Re: Shill bidding?

i-love-my-sheep — Mon, 01 Dec 2014 23:10:06 GMT

@lolobgo wrote:
oh, i just checked out other completed items.... The same winner is on everything, car parts, bike parts..... with the exception of the motorbike that didn't meet the reserve!
It has to be shill bidding...
Item no. 141488133909
if you want to check it out

Interesting that the item you put here has been relisted.... It's interesting that 8 FB bidder has now won that same car door twice and now it's been relisted again.

Good luck reporting for shill bidding. EBay say they act on complaints of shilling, but I can tell you for a fact they don't. In fact, they encourage it by reinstating accounts of shill bidders so they can continue defrauding people. It's quite a joke really. If I didn't have a conscience, I'd be creating new accounts and doing it myself.

Re: Shill bidding?

modestbods — Tue, 02 Dec 2014 01:32:25 GMT

@sloanranger62 wrote:
I had the same experience several months ago bidding on stairs & concluded that with little doubt that it was shill bidding. When I posted to this board that I suspected SHELL BIDDING I was castigated uphill and downdale for even thinking it! If you search this board you will see how nasty it got.

That was because what you described as occuring did not correspond to Shill Bidding. The only similarity your incident had to Shill Bidding was that it shared the same initials...

Re: Shill bidding?

modestbods — Tue, 02 Dec 2014 02:12:57 GMT

Look at how much they may have cost the winner of this item through their shill bidding... 141467665546

Disgusting.

Re: Shill bidding?

lolobgo — Tue, 02 Dec 2014 02:16:06 GMT

I've reported it sheep, but i do doubt that anything will happen with it!

As for shill bidding, i would consider it myself... well i need someone else to bid on my items first!

I do love what Harley said about bidding on the items and making them pay the fees. I'm pretty sure that feebay would crack it when their fees aren't paid!

Re: Shill bidding?

harley_babes_hoard — Tue, 02 Dec 2014 02:20:02 GMT

knowing my luck if I did that the bugger would stop bidding and I would win everything LOL

Re: Shill bidding?

lolobgo — Tue, 02 Dec 2014 02:33:46 GMT

Thanks! I just spat my coffee at the lap top screen!

Re: Shill bidding?

i-love-my-sheep — Tue, 02 Dec 2014 03:08:56 GMT

@lolobgo wrote:
I've reported it sheep, but i do doubt that anything will happen with it!
As for shill bidding, i would consider it myself... well i need someone else to bid on my items first!

I do love what Harley said about bidding on the items and making them pay the fees. I'm pretty sure that feebay would crack it when their fees aren't paid!

Same here!!!! Most of my items sell with only one bid (if they even sell at all), so I'd be wasting my time. As Harley said, it would be just my luck if I ended up winning all my own items. I think eBay would get quite sus with a sudden increase in cancellations.

Re: Shill bidding?

i-love-my-sheep — Tue, 02 Dec 2014 03:13:01 GMT

@modestbods wrote:
Look at how much they may have cost the winner of this item through their shill bidding... 141467665546

Disgusting.

That seller will never get done for not as described. Have you checked his descriptions? On this listing, did you see what he added to the description? I bet it was the added info that made it sell for so much. So informative....

Re: Shill bidding?

2106greencat — Tue, 02 Dec 2014 04:17:34 GMT

Certainly looks like shill bidding, by a tosspot, they are not too good at it......by the time it actually sells the fvf will have eaten any 'illgotten" profit he might make.

Some people just gotta make you laugh!

Re: Shill bidding?

lolobgo — Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:48:07 GMT

I was bidding on this for my "better" (or worse) half! (Halve????) anyway, he suggested that when (if) i win the item, i pay for it then and there via pay pal.... then i get him some defects.....

my other half was thinking he scored a bargin... more than he thought it was in my opinion!

Re: Shill bidding?

sloanranger62 — Wed, 03 Dec 2014 01:13:03 GMT

@modestbods wrote:
@sloanranger62 wrote:
I had the same experience several months ago bidding on stairs & concluded that with little doubt that it was shill bidding. When I posted to this board that I suspected SHELL BIDDING I was castigated uphill and downdale for even thinking it! If you search this board you will see how nasty it got.

That was because what you described as occuring did not correspond to Shill Bidding. The only similarity your incident had to Shill Bidding was that it shared the same initials...

Why are you so disagreeable, am I not entitled to my opinion that I encountered SHILL BIDDING. What details do you know coming to the conclusion that it was not shill bidding. This case was investigated by Ebay. WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME if you think you know so much?

Re: Shill bidding?

lyndal1838 — Wed, 03 Dec 2014 03:05:54 GMT

@sloanranger62 wrote:
@modestbods wrote:
@sloanranger62 wrote:
I had the same experience several months ago bidding on stairs & concluded that with little doubt that it was shill bidding. When I posted to this board that I suspected SHELL BIDDING I was castigated uphill and downdale for even thinking it! If you search this board you will see how nasty it got.

That was because what you described as occuring did not correspond to Shill Bidding. The only similarity your incident had to Shill Bidding was that it shared the same initials...

Why are you so disagreeable, am I not entitled to my opinion that I encountered SHILL BIDDING. What details do you know coming to the conclusion that it was not shill bidding. This case was investigated by Ebay. WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME if you think you know so much?

So what was the outcome?

Ebay will never tell you the outcome of any of their investigations.

Yes, you are entitled to your opinion but that does not mean that we all have to agree with you. Many of us did not agree that it was shill bidding.

Re: Shill bidding?

sloanranger62 — Wed, 03 Dec 2014 05:35:39 GMT

Lyndal1838 with your 9000+ posts here you are again trolling these boards giving me a BUG IN MY EAR about the fact that it was not SHILL BIDDING. What indepth knowledge do you know about the case as that is only between the seller, me the bidder & Ebay. You really are a bully on these board and people like you are the reason I hardly use them.