topic Re: Chinese Scammers in Buying

Chinese Scammers

howard0_14 — Sat, 24 Jun 2023 22:18:43 GMT

It is very frustrating to say but I have found a few items that I might be interested in purchasing, that is until I find out the seller claims items are local but in fact in China and if anything goes wrong the seller will disappear and it will take forever to get any kind of settlement.

It is also frustrating to see that Ebay makes claims on how good the sellers are when handling a buyers issues.

Ebay makes claims to be their from us and to protect us from scams but I have yet to see a scamming seller kicked from Ebay and not allowed to return. Come on Ebay the time has come to start protecting us and start kicking the scammers off the board, we as buyers do not need the hassles of taking months to get satisfaction back from a scamming seller who has fake details listed and ignores any contact from the buyers.

Re: Chinese Scammers

sandypebbles — Sat, 24 Jun 2023 22:47:26 GMT

eBay do not read here

Don't buy from scammers and there will be no issue

The seller's feedback is available before placing a bid

eBay is ALL about the buyer, always

There is zero reason to 'take weeks to get a settlement'

It shows the estimated delivery date before bidding

Sellers cannot refuse a return for items that are faulty or not as described

Buyers need to make themselves aware of the basics policies, (or need to learn how to use the site at all for that matter) and most importantly, need to stop choosing to keep these scammers in business and then blame everyone else for their poor chooses

CARE about who you are buying from

If you did that, everything you are complaining about above would be 100% avoided

The seller you left the neg for

Registered in China

Feedback is in the toilet

you bought from them anyway

Re: Chinese Scammers

sugar249 — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 00:43:28 GMT

Ebay gives you the tools.

You decided to buy from a seller who has poor feedback, you ignored the feedback and went ahead and purchased. It is not Ebay who are helping bad sellers, it is bad buyer such as yourslef who encourage them.

Re: Chinese Scammers

imastawka — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 01:23:52 GMT

Good grief.

Why would it take forever to get settlement?

Use the tools given to you by ebay -

eBay Money Back Guarantee policy | eBay

Re: Chinese Scammers

springyzone — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 03:08:04 GMT

My take on your problem is slightly different.

I think it is important to check feedback but I will sometimes take a slight risk with a seller even if their feedback is a bit iffy, But here's the difference.

I will only do that if it is a seller based in Australia.

That's because it would be easier all round to arrange that they pay return postage in the event of a problem.

The other difference is there is nowadays no way I would wait months to get satisfaction.

You can't rely on the seller. It's fine to contact them initially but if you don't get immediate satisfaction, and I do mean immediate-within 48 hours- then you need to turn to ebay and open a proper claim. You need to do that within 30 days of estimated arrival date of the item. You'll see that date in the ad.

You can't afford to dilly dally around.

Yes, there is a problem with Chinese based sellers advertising their items as located in Australia. Sometimes the items are actually here, sometimes not. The ETA will give you some clue as to whether they are likely local. But my take on it is why give them the business in the first place? So I always check out seller location, not just item location. A pain, but worth the extra few seconds.

Scammers. Ebay will kick off obvious scammers or caution them but sellers who are overseas are allowed to advertise their goods as being here (as they may have a warehouse here). So that is not considered a scam. That's why they aren't kicked off, I guess. I don't like it either but it is just the way it is.

Ebay also doesn't guarantee the quality of any items. That's on the seller. But if your problem is your item never turned up or it was faulty or damaged on arrival, then that's when you need to swing into a proper ebay claim for a refund. Don't delay it. You don't have to message ebay about it, just open a claim.

Re: Chinese Scammers

bobe7316bob — Sun, 10 Dec 2023 12:13:16 GMT

Ebay is at fault. They know that these Chinese scammers are using there platform to say they are in Australia when in reality they are in China. Ebay should get rid of them. I try to only buy off Australian owned businesses now.

They cost me more but at least I know that I will have my goods within 3 to 4 days using Australia Post.

Re: Chinese Scammers

padi*0409 — Sun, 10 Dec 2023 13:13:07 GMT

@bobe7316bob wrote:

I try to only buy off Australian owned businesses now.

That's interesting considering 3 of the last month's feedback left for you is from Chinese registered sellers......

Re: Chinese Scammers

*sons_n_daughters* — Sun, 10 Dec 2023 14:38:40 GMT

@padi*0409 wrote:
@bobe7316bob wrote:

I try to only buy off Australian owned businesses now.

That's interesting considering 3 of the last month's feedback left for you is from Chinese registered sellers......

Yes, but the "item location" probably states that the item is in Sydney, or Chullora, or Botany (both suburbs of Sydney that have large mail centres and distribution centres). Therefore, they must be legit Aussie sellers. No doubt they have an Aussie flag and Australia Post stamped on their photos too, maybe even "AU seller"". Makes them even more legit!

Re: Chinese Scammers

sandypebbles — Sun, 10 Dec 2023 18:32:31 GMT

You as they buyer choose who you buy from

You choose to buy over and over from sellers in China

Just like the member who posted a similar comment yesterday

They also buyer more often than not from sellers in China with atrocious feedback

Both of you are helping keep such sellers in business

Dont blame eBay for your choices

You had the information about the seller and still chose to buy

Re: Chinese Scammers

padi*0409 — Sun, 10 Dec 2023 23:34:29 GMT

@*sons_n_daughters* wrote:
Yes, but the "item location" probably states that the item is in Sydney, or Chullora, or Botany (both suburbs of Sydney that have large mail centres and distribution centres). Therefore, they must be legit Aussie sellers. No doubt they have an Aussie flag and Australia Post stamped on their photos too, maybe even "AU seller"". Makes them even more legit!

I wonder how an Aussie would go if they tried the same thing in reverse in China ?

Not well I suspect.

Re: Chinese Scammers

davewil1964 — Mon, 11 Dec 2023 07:00:41 GMT

The bumper is allegedly Australian and has part of an Australian flag as his avatar, therefore Aussie flags must mean Aussie sellers.

Re: Chinese Scammers

springyzone — Mon, 11 Dec 2023 11:10:53 GMT

@bobe7316bob wrote:
Ebay is at fault. They know that these Chinese scammers are using there platform to say they are in Australia when in reality they are in China. Ebay should get rid of them. I try to only buy off Australian owned businesses now.
They cost me more but at least I know that I will have my goods within 3 to 4 days using Australia Post.

The thing is, quite often it only says the item is in Australia. And it may be.

If you do the extra click though, you can see where the seller is actually registered.

The information is available. The sellers are not claiming to be in Australia.

You do need to check it out before you buy.