topic Re: late bids in Buying

late bids

ian-w-8 — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 01:41:01 GMT

How can the "winning bid" be valid when it was 14 seconds after the closure time (and not using auto-bidding)?

Re: late bids

twyngwyn — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 02:17:28 GMT

what is the item number?

Re: late bids

ian-w-8 — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 02:34:04 GMT

This morning: Australian Computer Traders (40035). See

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/204998635323

https://www.ebay.com.au/bfl/viewbids/204998635323?item=204998635323&rt=nc&_trksid=p4429486.m145235.l2565

Are late bids accepted if they are from the seller, or from eBay employees, or from high volume traders/buyers etc.? If the "winning bid" is after the closure, it just looks dishonest !

Re: late bids

padi*0409 — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 02:44:53 GMT

Actual end time was :-

Ended: 21 Sep, 2024 11:20:18 AEST. So no, it wasn't a late bid, it was actually placed 4 seconds before the listing ended.

Re: late bids

ian-w-8 — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 03:00:41 GMT

The advertised closure was 11:20 am ... this means 11:20:00.

The late bid was 11:20:14.

If the "actual closure" was not until 11:20:18, then it was obviously not closed at 11:20, as advertised.

Do the T&Cs say that the "eBay time" may not be the actual time?

Re: late bids

sandypebbles — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 03:00:49 GMT

Not sure how you can say it was a late bid

It was a few seconds before close of auction

Nothing to do with the seller, or eBay employees and nothing dishonest about the highest bidder at seconds before close of auction

Re: late bids

padi*0409 — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 03:05:01 GMT

@ian-w-8 wrote:

The advertised closure was 11:20 am ... this means 11:20:00.

No it was not.

For your edification:-

Re: late bids

*casey* — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 03:09:30 GMT

The bidding history page is always rounded off to the minute, not the actual time it finishes.

The listing page shows:

Ended:21 Sep, 2024 11:20:18 AEST

Re: late bids

sandypebbles — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 03:15:36 GMT

Again, no it was not

Ended of auction is not and never has been 'on the minute'

They are 'to the second'

Why ask if you are unwilling to accept factual answers?

You were not the high bidder at the end of the auction which is why you did not win and that is all there is too it

Go into any currently running auction for anything and click on the bidding

At the top it will show end time being in hours:minutes:seconds remaining

Simply how it works

Nothing dodgy about it

Can you imagine if it was to the minute

Think about it

You'd have several people all putting in a bid at the last 'minute' and everyone would cancel each other out

Re: late bids

*casey* — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 03:27:46 GMT

Just correcting what I wrote which should be:

When you're placing a bid, you can see exactly how long the auction has left , but when it ends,

the bidding history page is rounded off to the minute, not the actual time it finished.

The listing page shows exactly what time the auction ended.

Re: late bids

ian-w-8 — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 03:53:54 GMT

The web page has been changed from the advertised closing time of 11:20 am, to the actual closure time of 11:20:18.

The bidding history page still says that the "Time ended" at the advertised closing time of "11:20".

Transactions are supposed to be time stamped (to the nanosecond ?) so that they can be queued in correct order, and then processed ... because servers are never completely "up to date".

"11:20" means "11:20:00", not anytime between 11:20:00 and 11:21:00.

Re: late bids

padi*0409 — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 04:03:19 GMT

If you can't understand what the experienced members are telling you, and showing you in black and white, then I feel sorry for your lack of ability to comprehend basic facts.

Re: late bids

*casey* — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 04:13:14 GMT

Nothing's changed.

When you placed a bid, it would have shown exactly how long the auction had to go, including seconds.

But when the auction ended, the eBay system rounds the time ended to the nearest minute, which is why you can see

Time Ended:
21 Sep 2024 at 11:20 AEST

at the top of the page above the bidding history, instead of the exact finishing time of 11:20:18

Re: late bids

sugar249 — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 04:36:19 GMT

Believe what everyone is telling you.

But, I would be thankful to miss out on that auction, did you see the sellers feedback, its down in the gutter. Actually I wouldnt be thankful I missed out, I wouldnt have actually bid in the first place.

Sometimes you just get lucky even though you dont want to accept it.

Re: late bids

gutterpunkz05 — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 06:45:35 GMT

Nothing wrong, the final bid was not late, the end time was not changed. The end time of any auction will exactly correspond to the listing start time, in this case.

Starting price

AU $0.99

18 Sep 2024 at 11:20:18 AEST

Re: late bids

padi*0409 — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 06:54:35 GMT

GP, maybe the OP should demand that eBay force their seller's auctions to be listed EXACTLY on the minute, not 11.19.59 and God forbid not 11.20.01............😂🤣😂

Because that's where the seconds differences come in.................

Re: late bids

k1ooo-slr-sales — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 08:42:16 GMT

padi, what's been lost in this whole discussion about end times is that members often complain that they weren't given time to bid higher ... meaning they didn't bid the highest amount they would be prepared to pay.

I used to bid on hundreds of items every week. I'd place an early (low) bid to receive reminders that an auction was ending soon ... soon enough to place my highest bid with around 30 secs to go if I really wanted the item.

If I didn't win, I never complained that I didn't have time to place 'just one more bid'. No guarantee that one more bid would have won it.

Anyone who has the highest bid for days, and into the final minutes of an auction, should not feel that they have been robbed if someone bids in the final seconds. Highest bidder at the end wins.

Re: late bids

countessalmirena — Sat, 21 Sep 2024 10:21:01 GMT

K1ooo, that’s very similar to what I do. I place an early low bid to indicate interest and as a placeholder of sorts. I place my real bid through Gixen. As I enter it, I ask myself at what point would the item be too expensive for me, and that dictates my serious bid. If I lose the auction, I know it’s because the bidding did go too high.

And Gixen isn’t confused by rounded numbers or odd times.