topic Re: Obvious Shill bidder in Buying

Obvious Shill bidder

mj657657 — Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:08:08 GMT

my brother inlaw bid on a iPhone 5 and won it, after he realised the lady sold the exact same phone not long before. She sold it for $300 and it had the same description and everything, she managed to get good feedback from this unknown person then she re-listed the same phone ??? It sold for $200, she obviously gathered she'll take whatever she could this time around. Anyhow after my brother inlaw realised whats been going on he decided not to pay for it, she's done a dispute against him. I'm just wondering what do I do next as my brother inlaw does not trust this seller. Thanks in advanced and I hope it all makes sense. Please use the item ID to check if I've lost my mind. see both exact same items . 1st sold 271316065737
Sold to my brother inlaw 271316050654

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

digital*ghost — Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:49:35 GMT

I'm sorry but if your brother in law doesn't pay, they will have to cop the non-payment strike.

There is no shill bidding - there can't be when there aren't multiple bid(ders).

The buyer's feedback for the seller mentions nothing about the phone itself, just compliments the seller, so how do you know they paid for / received / kept the phone?

There was around 2 weeks between the purchase and the feedback, what if the original buyer returned it for a refund in that time?

In my personal opinion, there is no evidence to suggest the seller has done (or is doing) anything wrong, but not paying after buying is generally considered the wrong thing to do.

If your BIL had questions for the seller, about anything, they really shoud have asked before making the committment to buy.

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

*sparklz* — Mon, 25 Nov 2013 10:29:37 GMT

If he was happy to bid to the winning amount than he should just pay for it.

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

lyndal1838 — Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:18:12 GMT

I think you have a seller who has no idea what they are doing. It is absolutely not shill bidding as it was a Buy It Now listing, but if you look at the seller's completed listings the same phone sold 7 times on the 8th November between 16.28 and 18.47 and at 2 different prices...$200 and $300.

Something is very screwy and I think you would have no trouble getting a strike overturned if you point this out to ebay.

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

tstore — Tue, 26 Nov 2013 02:13:28 GMT

It is a BIN item there can't be any shill bidding. In addition, $200 or $300 is cheap for an iPhone 5

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

nicole-n-daz — Tue, 26 Nov 2013 03:42:28 GMT

non payers annoy me.

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

mj657657 — Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:47:38 GMT

Thanks I'm sure Blind Freddie could of told me it was cheap. I don't think you're quite getting it. This seller is obviously Shifty, selling the same phone on more than one occasion? Looks like he'll just have to cop a unpaid strike.

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

davewil1964 — Tue, 03 Dec 2013 10:14:49 GMT

Please explain how a seller can get an unpaid item strike.

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

mj657657 — Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:11:03 GMT

It's not the seller, it's the buyer who gets the unpaid strike against their name.

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

davewil1964 — Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:13:41 GMT

I'm fully aware of that, but you said the seller was going to get one.

I was just wondering how.

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

mj657657 — Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:14:06 GMT

By the way, I used that term shill bidding as I didn't ask nor see if it was BIN ect, thanks for bringing it to my attention. I was clearly wrong, I will take that on the chin 🙂 . But won't tolerate smarties that come on to my thread just to have a bit of "fun" .

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

mj657657 — Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:15:45 GMT

Well I just confirmed it to you, it's the buyer who receives it? Then you ask me again. "He" is my brother inlaw seems you're confused.

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

davewil1964 — Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:22:02 GMT

I would ask why you only reply to yourself. And what your brother in law has to do with it.

Also if it WAS a BIN then your entire theorem is invalid.

I could suggest a few things, but 'Get out now before you end up with more egg on your face' is probably most appropos.

Oh, yeah. These boards are public and the starter of a thread has no ownership of it. ie This is NOT YOUR thread. if it was, you could edit responses. Guess what? You can't.

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

mj657657 — Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:33:47 GMT

You're just a loser trying to get your kicks off on ebay forums lmao! Have fun! I've seen your work, bored much?

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

davewil1964 — Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:36:16 GMT

I'm a winner. i even know what shilling is.

Assuming you're talking to me.

Given you have replied to yourself again, then you are probably correct.

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

mj657657 — Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:41:23 GMT

You know exactly who I'm talking too, so does everyone else. Don't you have better things to do with your time then annoy people? I know what shilling is also, but didn't realise it was a BIN price, if you didn't read I was mistaken. Get over yourself at least I can say I'm wrong.

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

davewil1964 — Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:47:10 GMT

You are still talking to yourself.

Hint: have a look at your posts and see who the reply is to. Yes, it's you.

Nevertheless you entire premise for this thread, by your own admission, is invalid.

Like i said earlier, the bit about eggs.

Gotta get some sleep, but I'm happy to play tomorrow.

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

zelly888 — Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:50:19 GMT

Please stop replying to yourself and reply to Dave so then Dave can maybe leave you alone.

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

mj657657 — Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:51:16 GMT

Looks like you'll have to play by yourself tomorrow ...... Goodnight

Re: Obvious Shill bidder

mj657657 — Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:52:10 GMT

Goodbye Dave, hopefully you can pick on someone else tomorrow.