topic Re: scammer in Buying

scammer

eastcoaststyling — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:28:33 GMT

seller : sold me a fake iphone and i cannot communicate..

ebay wont refund me the $189 for the counterfeit purchase...

accumilates at least10 negative feedbacks a month and ebay deletes the negatives over a period of time...

watch and take note of member how the negatives disappear over a few weeks... alot of disappointed buyers...

if ebay didnt delete the negatives all the time i would never of bought anything from this seller.. so who is to blame???

Re: scammer

*crikey*mate* — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:29:27 GMT

if you didn't pay by PayPal or another safe payment method, you are,

If you have paid by say PayPal, open a dispute within 45 days of purchase and pursue a refund.

If you are aware now of the deleted negs, why weren't you aware before you bid?

this is the australian site, if the phone was sold on this site (ie is your account registered in australia and were you logged into this site when you purchased?) then there is no such thing as eBay buyer protection.

so if that is the case, not sure why you exopect eBay to refund you? or to even intervene in a contrtact that has nothing to do with them?

BTW, really sorry this has happened to you, it is sucky when we get caught out by dodgy sellers.

Re: scammer

eastcoaststyling — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:29:59 GMT

delay the shipping for over 2 weeks , they claim they are from Melbourne, but shipped from Malaysia, just scammer, then i complained they delayed response time and before you know i dispute time expired... very fancy ebay store they have and just been scammed

Re: scammer

eastcoaststyling — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:55 GMT

you mentioned contract....

Ebay allows member to sell and continue to sell counterfeit items so i believe ebay has a responsibility. The contact didnt state i was buying a counterfeit iphone5 with the apple logo embossed on the phone, did it?

Re:scammer

lyndal1838 — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:33:41 GMT

The seller is registered in Malaysia....I think it is pretty obvious that the goods would also come from there, despite what the item location states.

Re: scammer

*crikey*mate* — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:30:59 GMT

that is too bad, now next time you know, that no matter what, you start your dispute before the 45 days, even if the seller claims to be the Virgin Mary, ok?

That way, you won't be scammed.

It really is up to you to protect yourself, you know?

Re: scammer

eastcoaststyling — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:42:29 GMT

states warehouse Melbourne 48 dispatch from Melbourne, not the case , obviously dont warehouse the fake iphone phones and samsumgs in Melbourne so the Federal police don't kick the scammers door down, now that's more obvious

Re: scammer

*crikey*mate* — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:46:25 GMT

Why?

In the User Agreement, eBay clearly say that they cannot guarantee a successful trading experience. They say they will try, but offer no guarantees.

They are not contractually obliged to do so.

There are even links and plenty of information to ensure that you know how to trade successfully online.

A listing is the responsibility of the seller, how is eBay to know it is counterfeit unless someione reports the item and provides proof of it's non authenticity?

How are they supposed to know?

eBay are not in the business of identifying scammers or counterfeit products, they are in the business of supplyiong a platform on which trading partners can meet - the details of which are entirely up to the trading partners.

Think of it like a dating site for trading partners.

Re: scammer

eastcoaststyling — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:32:14 GMT

crickey mate yes i have learned alot from this scammer, but the bad thing is 100's of other aussies are going to get scammed from

that's the reality

Re: scammer

*crikey*mate* — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:42:59 GMT

maybe they drop ship from malaysia and don't know the items are counterfeit.

just a thought

Re: scammer

*crikey*mate* — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:47:04 GMT

may I ask how you know that negatives disappear?

Re: scammer

eastcoaststyling — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:43:47 GMT

states accepts returns but as all feeback he doesnt come through with it.. because there is no australian address to return fake faulty item..once people put up a dispute the negative feedback ebay deletes it, has the system worked out

Re: scammer

eastcoaststyling — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:45:41 GMT

Sellers store states '' shipped 48 hours melbourne dispatch... check any of listing and see if it states malaysia, it's obvious they ship fake samsungs and iphones from malaysia, if shipped from Melbourne The Federal police would of kicked the scammers door down ,now thats obvious

Re: scammer

*crikey*mate* — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:44:30 GMT

you have proof of that?

I have never heard of that happening before.

A return to anyboidy should never be done unless under the direction of Paypal. So you send the item to whatever address PayPal provides for you.

Then if it is an OS address, point out to PayPal that their listing says dispatched from Melbourne etc etc, and so you bought thinking this was where it would need to be returned to etc...

Their feedback seems pretty l;egit to me, I do have to say.

No feedback revisions, only 4 negs.. a few too many neuts for my liking, but....

Re:scammer

eastcoaststyling — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:47:38 GMT

I have monitored the scammer for the last 4 weeks to see who else is being scammed and taken for a ride...had over 10 negatives in the first and six month feedback and now 4 negatives in total for 12 months, check in 2 weeks and see in the 6 month bracket how many negative feedbacks decline,, scammer at work

Re: scammer

eastcoaststyling — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:44:58 GMT

check how many negatives in 1 week then you will see how this scammer beats the negative system.. 4 negatives this week now ..watch it disappear/ decline in the 6 month bracket i paid via bank deposit due to the fact it had insurance.. then you will be shocked considering you are a pro here

Re: scammer

*crikey*mate* — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 14:01:54 GMT

ah well, I have no explanations for you, I'm sorry.

But I guess they won't help anyway.

Just remember for next time a few things about shopping online.

1) if the price seems too good to be true, it generally is.

2) Always pay by a safe Payment method (which you did do)

3) but then to utilize that safe payment method and raise any disputes within the 45 day period.

4) some things just shouldn't be bought on line, phones and other electronics being some of them, because after the 45 day period, it can be difficult to get a seller to act on a warranty or fix any long term issues.

But really, I do find it hard to believe that eBay removed his negs because he gave refunds or whatever, my guess is that they contained words that contravened eBay's policies. eg, you are not allowed to mention disputes in feedback.

I received a neg a while back - I sold a used book, listed as used in average condition (a recognized eBay descriptor). It was a brand new book, never read, but had a few feint marks from storage on the cover, no white showing, wouldn't even photograph, but detailed them in the description.

They left negative feedback, withoutncontacting me saying "Book is used"

I contacted eBay and they wouldn't remove the feedback cos that was the buyers experience and the feedback was factual. They also dinged all my stars except postage price, cos that was free, so they couldn't - but I posted the next day, never had the chance to communicate with them, and my dewscription was accurate, but eBay wouldn't budge.

So I don't know

another lesson there is to leave carefully worded feedback that does not breach rules.

I hope that your next transaction goes better for you

Re: scammer

imastawka — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 14:27:31 GMT

OH bid, and won a Samsung phone BNIB for $300. Seller was a zero newby.

I chewed my fingernails and pulled my hair out over that one.

Phone's been working like a charm now for months

Phew

Re: scammer

*crikey*mate* — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 14:34:23 GMT

cool.

Re: scammer

not_an_eloi — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 14:55:36 GMT

new neg. with positive feedback. would appear buyer's pleased wit purchase.