topic Re: possible scammer in Buying

possible scammer

speedglas — Wed, 05 Mar 2014 04:39:55 GMT

anyone else deal with this seller called <removed> ? i bought 4 high powered on the 01/12/13

3 from that listing and a 4th one from one of his other listings that ended up getting taken down by ebay for reasons unkown . the seller just does NOT RESPOND TO EMAILS , and he has already started getting negative feedback from other members with the same issue . i really dont know what i should do ? should i still wait for the items to show up or just put in a claim to paypal ? the whole thing smelled like a scam from the start him selling the flashlights at $15.99

Re: possible scammer

silversterio2 — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 20:58:20 GMT

100% SCAM

If you look at the title in completed listings, you'll see all the other scammers too.

Log on to Paypal and file a dispute immediately.

Escalate to a claim as soon as you can.

Re: possible scammer

speedglas — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 20:58:39 GMT

sorry how do i view his completed listings ?

also i want to mention his feedback left and feedback recieved are the same kind of wording ? looks like he has multiple accounts so he can leave himself positive feedback ?

Re: possible scammer

silversterio2 — Thu, 09 Jan 2014 06:01:53 GMT

All these completed listings from selling IDs with low feedback:

It's an ongoing Scam. The Scammers all leave feedback for each other.

Log on to Paypal and file the dispute now. Escalate to a claim as soon as you can.

Re: possible scammer

speedglas — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 20:59:07 GMT

thanks for that info , i have gone onto paypal and escalated them to paypal claims . i checked out them other listings feedback and the fake sellers have made their feedback comments private lol no wonder hey .

Re: possible scammer

speedglas — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 20:59:26 GMT

the scammer has now got 18 negative feedback and looks like it will continue to grow . stupid thing is its saying i gotta wait till 26 of dec for the fake seller to respond then maybe ill get my money back ? the waiting time for this is too long . its pretty evident that the guy is fake why do they need to wait for him to respond ? this is just wasting my time .

Re: possible scammer

phorum_junkie* — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 21:31:49 GMT

Paypal have to give the seller 10 days to respond with proof of posting before they can close the case and give you your refund, not every claim is valid and sellers have to be given a chance to defend themselves.

Paypal only word it that they may refund you to cover themselves, you will definitely get a refund even if it takes a while.

Re: possible scammer

speedglas — Thu, 19 Dec 2013 06:26:42 GMT

ok latest negative feedback is saying the scamming seller sent a tiny toy that he had to sign for instead of the actuall item . what if this happens to me ?

Re: possible scammer

mikisftf — Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:06:34 GMT

This is how these scams 'work'.

Scammer offers hundreds - sometimes thousands - of an item at too low a price. Say a $75-$99 hard disk for $30-$40.

If/when buyers open an item not received dispute in PayPal - scammer is notified by PayPal and then sends a small item to the buyer. A coin or more likely a piece of costume jewlery or a small toy.

Buyers have to now change their PayPal dispute to Item Not As Described, and escalate to a claim.

PayPay then instructs buyers to return the item to the seller in China.

However, the return address is fake/non existant. PLUS the cost of sending even a small packet to China by Registered International Mail is prohibitive considering the original money lost (around $30).

If the buyer is stupid enough to send the item back - they lose another $30.

Best thing to do is to call eBay AND PayPal and inform them of the scam and the scammer. They will know all about this type of scam of course. However, they will almost never admit this to you. it seems it must be part of their training. The end result should be that you do not have to send anything back, and you should get a refund.

Re: possible scammer

speedglas — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 08:39:47 GMT

just got my money back from paypal . the scamming seller made thousands and is most likely laughing .

Re: possible scammer

imastawka — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 09:35:18 GMT

Don't know how much he's laughing. Your refund came out of his

paypal account!

Re: possible scammer

cq_tech — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:13:32 GMT

Not necessarily, I'm sorry to say. It depends upon how much the dodgy seller managed to withdraw from his account before Paypal put a hold on the disputed payments.

Re: possible scammer

go-tazz — Mon, 30 Dec 2013 21:35:11 GMT

You may also receive phishing Emails that pretend to be from eBay or Paypal,(as well as more spam).

The seller now has your correct name so they can address you in an Email the same way that eBay and PP do,(the

link in the Email will take you to a fake log in page).

Only ever log into those sites through your browser,NEVER via a link in an Email.

As stated,this is an ongoing scam that surfaces a number of times per year,(the last one involved over 150 ID's from

China,Malaysia and the Philippines.

The sell a variety of sought after items for very low prices and hope that people still believe that those prices are

real,

Re: possible scammer

allonlineau — Mon, 03 Mar 2014 23:44:38 GMT

I purchased a torch late November and here in Jan 2014, still hasn't arrived. The estimated delivery date ended 30 December 2013.

Re: possible scammer

flinnydsf — Thu, 09 Jan 2014 03:26:41 GMT

same for me ordered shoes oct 15th never arrived they say they sent a second pair surprise these didn't arrive and now no replys to my emails about a refund.

Re: possible scammer

bozo1948 — Mon, 03 Mar 2014 10:17:19 GMT

Yes we have another one for sure plus a possible 3 more all selling the same thing in three different states all with in $5.00 of buy it now price and quoted as free delivery and all selling 7 machines each so buyer beware if your looking to buy a wood chipper mulcher.

This guy has taken the money through Pay Pal and no goods delivered,silly me should have known better after odering and paying I found the similar ads and become a little suspicious too late the money was gone and the waiting period for delivery is now over.

Emailed the seller twice to no reply.

I do have his so called name ( not trading name) his alias I think, pay pal supplied that on my statement so beware all you guys that are looking for gardening machinery.

The thing that is most annoying is the fact the bells don't ring soon enough and if they did you still have too long to wait before you can report it and there are no real fast courses of action and the scammers know this.

I know this works both ways seller and buyer scamming but it is about time we had a real complaint centre.

Re: possible scammer

davewil1964 — Mon, 03 Mar 2014 10:26:55 GMT

Ummm this thread is 3 months old. You are replying to the already rippedoff?

Or haven't worked out that Paypal's 45 day stipulation means 45 days? The bells should ring when the seller doesn't provide the goods or a refund within 45 days.

I'm not sure what further insulation you require. Please elucidate. But not if it involves you ignoring the buyer protection rules. I am so over members complaining about getting ripped off when they don't bother to follow the rules they agree to when they join.

Re: possible scammer

bozo1948 — Mon, 03 Mar 2014 10:36:06 GMT

Well I a'm sorry for being a new coplainant but we all can't be as smart as the people at the top of the chain.

Please put me in the right direction then and I will carry my complaint where it is needed in a more up to date thread. I will be waiting for this advice .

Point taken about the 45 day **bleep** but all this time wasting lets these scammers get away with it time and time again why don't ebay and pay pal list these people for all to see Huh!

Re: possible scammer

silversterio2 — Mon, 03 Mar 2014 10:45:23 GMT

Bozo,

You haven't left it too late to file a dispute.

Log on to Paypal and file a dispute immediately.

Escalate to a claim as soon as you can.

These fraudulent listings are reported to ebay constantly, with ebay doing very little about them these days.

Shame ebay shame.

Re: possible scammer

davewil1964 — Mon, 03 Mar 2014 10:53:54 GMT

@bozo1948 wrote:
Well I a'm sorry for being a new coplainant but we all can't be as smart as the people at the top of the chain.
Please put me in the right direction then and I will carry my complaint where it is needed in a more up to date thread. I will be waiting for this advice .
Point taken about the 45 day **bleep** but all this time wasting lets these scammers get away with it time and time again why don't ebay and pay pal list these people for all to see Huh! .

I am not at the top of the chain, I just know how the system works.

45 days IS the relevant scenario. If you choose not to avail yourself of the protection offered, then you have no recourse. And how are eBay/Paypal to know? Do you think they have the resources to vet every listing?