topic Re: what is private listing bidders protected in Buying

what is private listing bidders protected

123mulawa — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 07:28:44 GMT

Re: what is private listing bidders protected

amber-eyed-girl — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 07:32:05 GMT

The seller has made the listing "private", which is done usually for sensitive items like underwear, or expensive items, so that when people buy, it cannot be seen in the feedback of the seller, what they bought.

it is less relevant now to protect buyer privacy then it used to be, as buyer IDs are altered in feedback, and items bought cannot be viewed through feedback.

Re: what is private listing bidders protected

davewil1964 — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 07:34:19 GMT

it is something a seller sets up so nobody can see what the item is in feedback.

Supposedly to be used for items of a controversial/personal/valuable nature.

But can be used by any seller for any item.

Re: what is private listing bidders protected

123mulawa — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 07:56:32 GMT

So if it's made private how do i know if the seller is bidding on their own item, thats for sale, so as to jack up the price all it states is " private listing - bidders identies protected' . I've just experienced this on a item , being a fishing rod that went from a little over a $1 to over $15 without bidders id or a progressive price increase , only'' private listing - bidders id protected''. Sounde sus to me.

Re: what is private listing bidders protected

amber-eyed-girl — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 07:58:56 GMT

If you are suspicious you can look at the bidding history and try to work it out.

click on the bid number on the listing.

then click on show automatic bids to see everything.

but shill bidding is not easy to spot, and not as common as people think.

good luck bidding.

Re: what is private listing bidders protected

123mulawa — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:04:29 GMT

I've done that and there is not a single bid between the $1 bid and the $15.05 bid, ,I put in a bid for a max of $20.05 and won it for $15.05 without a single other bid showing up on either of the bid historys

Re: what is private listing bidders protected

*crikey*mate* — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:06:10 GMT

even on a regular listing you won't see the names of the other bidders.

Re: what is private listing bidders protected

amber-eyed-girl — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:11:09 GMT

You need to look at all the bids, including automatic ones.

it also shows the time bids were placed. Bids placed earlier, take precedence.

the jump from 1$ to 15.05$ to me, indicates that another bidder had placed an earlier maximum bid of around 15$.

eBay then automatically bid on their behalf, against you, until they dropped out at 15$. It will have gone up in normal increments, until the 15$. It would have stopped earlier, if their top bid had been less. Whether they were a real or a shill.

it will show any bid...which means that shill bidders (the seller through another ID, or a friend of theirs) will have their bids recorded.

if you have a problem with a particular auction contact eBay and ask them to explain that auction for you, bid by bid 🙂

Re: what is private listing bidders protected

123mulawa — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:11:36 GMT

You are right, but Ebay does state a bummy name, for each bid , wheather hidden or not, in my situation this was not the case

Re: what is private listing bidders protected

amber-eyed-girl — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:14:11 GMT

Read the post I just put in above yours 🙂

the bidding will have gone up, bit by bit, until the other bidder maxed out.

the system will not show each 1$, as that would be a very long list, when it is the same bidder.

if there had been multiple bidders, or bids placed one dollar at a time, each bid will show, with a time stamp.

this one looks like automatic bidding.

Re: what is private listing bidders protected

123mulawa — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:15:57 GMT

What you state is right , in my case there is no automatic bid or any type of progressive bid, just a single jump to $15.05. Looks like a case for Ebay , investigators.

Re: what is private listing bidders protected

amber-eyed-girl — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:30:38 GMT

If you think it was the seller, bidding, then eBay support will be able to see if the IDs are registered to the same person or IP address.

they will also be able to see all the bids, in sequence.

good luck.

Re: what is private listing bidders protected

123mulawa — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:41:39 GMT

Thanks for your time and advice . Regards

Re: what is private listing bidders protected

nnl3591 — Sun, 29 Jul 2018 12:02:27 GMT

For me when see private listing bidders protected on an item , I just skip and go to bid for item where I can actually see different bidder put in their bid and also mine bid against theirs...look real. But private bid is too sus and I don't trust it real.....stay away go to bid for the next item you are looking for wher no private listing.

Re: what is private listing bidders protected

davewil1964 — Sun, 29 Jul 2018 12:47:12 GMT

As you've been registered on the boards for nine years, the time to respond was four and a half years ago, when this thread was current.

These days, nobody can see any other bidders identities except the seller.

There are also several valid reasons to have 'private listing' selected, but I'm sure you already know that, as you will have already read the responses in this thread.

Re: what is private listing bidders protected

moribundus_000 — Fri, 14 Sep 2018 10:53:01 GMT

I had an incident a few years ago. The items cost $?? + postage at $17.57. I put in a bid max at $83.43. To total $100. The item had been touched by only me in 21 days. I got a notification to say that I had been outbid. I went to bid again but was the only bidder. I checked and...nope just me. 10 mins later the auction was due to end. My max bid was activated. The idiot bid $82.43. Someone had bid past me. Retracted it and then had another identity bid under mine. Sadly all the accounts got suspened. They all had a compute address from the same town. Nevermind the bid being exactly $1 under mine. The seller said it was a coincedence. Ebay said it was not. Luckily fate smiled and I got a new item, cheaper and from my own country, about 3 weeks later.
I have had worse. Especially as years ago, your identity was visible. I had been harrassed by people who had lost an action and then chased me to sell the item to them. One was caught doing a back-door deal with the seller to cut me out. She agreed and sold it for 5× what I had won it for. In the meantime she was giving me the run-around with fake bank account details etc. Then filed a no pay complaint against me. Ebay investigated me, the seller and the harasser. Found what they had done and booted them both from ebay. The idiots used the internal ebay messaging system, leaving a detailed incriminating trail.

Re: what is private listing bidders protected

davewil1964 — Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:50:17 GMT

And shill bidding years ago, if it was, is related to 'private listing bidder protected' how?

This thread is many years old. Do you consider it good form to resurrect it by posting off-topic?

Re: what is private listing bidders protected

s.abuyer — Wed, 27 Jan 2021 07:13:16 GMT

its so the seller can bid on his own things for sale ,like all the iphone x on auction theres allways that bidder that has never purchased anything so next to his name theres a 0 ,thats usually the seller using another ebay account.

Re: what is private listing bidders protected

davewil1964 — Wed, 27 Jan 2021 07:32:45 GMT

I doubt there were iPhone X's around SEVEN years ago, when the question was asked.

And you would certainly have to provide some evidence of shilling.

Use BIN, or buy a current phone from a real retailer.