topic Re: One more issue in Buying

One more issue

melibee49 — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 04:13:09 GMT

When I first started buying from ebay (3 mths ago), I bought a handbag from China & it was horrible & cheaply made. I left them a message stating the bag was in poor condition & they offered me $3.00 compensation. I said no thanks & because it was after 45 days, I just left a negative feedback & forgot about it. But in the last 6 weeks this seller has bombarded me with messages to remove the negative feedback, THEN they will give me a full refund. I keep telling the seller I will remove it when they refund me. But it keeps on going around & around, back & forth. I don't want to hurt anyone's business, but what if I do what they want & they don't refund me?

Re: One more issue

harley_babes_hoard — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 04:33:40 GMT

No do not change your feedback even if you get a refund.

They have simply racked up to many defects probably from selling shoddy goods the same as you received and are getting close to their defect limit. The likely hood they will refund you after you change feedback is very slim.

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roseworthy11 — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 04:35:27 GMT

you can report the seller to ebay because they are harrassing you with emails regarding this - I experienced same thing 3 months ago over a supposedly coral bracelet from China (should have known better - it was just coloured glass)- go through the report a member section in the Help & Contact because you are actually being harrassed.

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retailtherapist_8 — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 04:40:45 GMT

I agree with Harley.

It has also happended to me with an INR case. They send these sickly sweet pleading messages to close the case long before the issue is resolved essentially trying to bribe you with refunds and free stuff ( which you will never see). I am firm and say " The case will be closed as soon as you have refunded me or the item arrives whichever comes first and NOT before."

Re: One more issue

horizon1907 — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 04:44:06 GMT

Don't even bother to respond. He got was deserved. NEGATIVE. They ( Chinese Sellers ) flood the market with RUBBISH & expect Positive. They are fast ruining ALL the online sites and until everyone wakes up to the fact, they will continue to do so. Buy at your own risk !!!!

Re: One more issue

2106greencat — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 04:56:44 GMT

I would agree to change the feedback once I received a full refund,

by then of course, the 60 days should well and truly have come and gone and you won't be able to change it, or you can change it to a neutral and still get your point across.

Re: One more issue

melibee49 — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 04:57:20 GMT

I have definitely learnt my lesson buying from Chinese sellers & find it very frustrating when they saturate the listings with their rubbish when I am looking to buy a decent products from decent, honest sellers. 🙂

Re: One more issue

2106greencat — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 05:04:37 GMT

buy aussie on eBay as much as you can, that is the only way our sellers (who quite frankly have enough of an uneven playing field as it is on eBay) can ever hope to compete with the Chinese sellers.

At lease from an Oz seller you will have an acceptable postage time, the ability to contact and understand responses, not to mention if a return is necessary it wont break the bank.

There are no doubt dodgy sellers in all countrys, that is a given, but in Oz, at least you have a time frame you can work with, and in my experience most local sellers are awesome and go above and beyond because they treat you as a customer, not a number or a $ sign.

Re: One more issue

fixnwear — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 05:16:43 GMT

melibee49,

sorry to hear about the bag - but not surprised.

I don't know why were you surprised to find the bag in poor condition, cheaply made.

Don't know how much was it, most likely cheap for what it is, which is probably what influenced you as well when buying.

Ebay is full of cheap stuff from China, with free postage, people buy them and then complain that it looks "cheap".

How do you think anything would look that is sold for so little, with free postage?

Even if it was listed by an Australian seller.

Chinese people have the ability to make things perfectly, have a long head start hystorically above just about anyone, except maybe the Egyptians.

And the brains (genetically), that would eat just about all of us for breakfast.

In China, you can find some exqusite silks, leather, cashmere, wool, bone china, jewellery, gems (rated in quality best in the world), but not on Ebay as they are not stupid - knowing Ebay is not the right market for it (read it doesn't have the right clientelle for such items).

Stuff sold here is excatly what it is, mass produced, costs bugger all, they sell absolute tons of it - in spite of all the complaints.

Like it or not, they are the world force in ecconomy and they know exactly what they are doing!

Seems much better than us, or US or Europe.

Re: One more issue

horizon1907 — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 05:17:21 GMT

I'm gunna go out on a limb here and go as far as to say, I would like to see the Chinese Rubbish sellers banned on ebay. I know that would be an impossibilty, but most have buyers ( so you see it on the boards most days) have had it up to their gills with the antics and poor excuses with em. They play games,they sell fakes and dodgey items, they are crafty, manipulative and know that it is nearly impossible to send the garbage back to them. Vent over for now !!!

Re: One more issue

fixnwear — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 05:28:26 GMT

horizon,

you are kidding, for sure!

Banned from Ebay!

As if.

If you had a site for selling (like Ebay) and are making money from other people's listings - Chinese are the ones you most definitely wouldn't ban!

They are your most revenue producing nation.

If you have a business, it's sole purpose for being is to make money - and ifn a face of massive losses you'd soon change your mind.

Sadly for us, I think Ebay wouldn't feel much of a loss if all Ausses dissapeared overnight, but China - THAT would hurt!

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kopenhagen5 — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 05:30:18 GMT

Totally agree horizon, they destroy consumer confidence.

Already the damage China has done with consumer goods is despicable, not to mention ruin their own reputation for a few dollars.

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horizon1907 — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 05:32:10 GMT

Thank you kopes. 🙂

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fixnwear — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 05:44:46 GMT

horizon,

I agree with you too, that anyone who sells cheap and nast stuff ought to be banned from Ebay - but that is just a pipe dream!

Most Ebay's customers want cheap, the cheaper the better, with ideally no postage - but then they are surprised as to how cheap it really is - once they get it.

If that wasn't the case (constantly after a bargain) no one would ever buy anything from China on Ebay, if everyone said "I don't need this Chinese rubbish" - they wouldn't sell anything EVER - but surprise, surprise, exactly the opposite is happening.

They sell globally billions of dollars worth of "cheap junk" - and that's is why Ebay is happy - laughing all the way to the bank.

And for the rest of us - we just have to be a bit more discerning and sellective when shopping here.

Re: One more issue

horizon1907 — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 05:51:33 GMT

I'm deadly serious. IF ebay are serious about giving folks an enjoyable & safe site to make a purchase, then yes, ban them. The problem is, ebay are after a quick & endless $$$$ flow. The $$ that are generated from Chinese Sellers to ebay must be vast. I totally understand that ebay are a Huge Company and money talks volumes, but that doesn't make it right. The vast majority of items that are sold are basically JUNK. Buy, use and toss away when finished with. That's the way we all live today ( unfortunately ) My point being, it's the Fakes, Rip Offs & knowingly 3rd grade carp that is swamping the market place that is doing the damage. IMO given time, ebay WILL implode.

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harley_babes_hoard — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 05:59:06 GMT

unfortunately it's all about the $ Horizon, ebay don't care where their money comes from as long as it comes.

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fixnwear — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 06:05:32 GMT

Horizon,

again, in theory I agree totally with you.

But the thing is, in practice, I an just not sure what damage is actually being done, and to whom.

You can argue that shoppers may get turned of Ebay altogether after few unfortunate Chinese purchases - and then all sellers miss out!

But, in the scheme of things, ratio of the unhappy buyers is still microscopic compared with the happy ones.

I normally don't shop here for those sort of items, but just had a look at several Chinese sellers.

Their overall feed back is, say over 100,000, with about 10-15,000 negs. And that is nothing overly amazing, given the turnover, and given the quality of stuff they sell. I am honestly surprised to not see many more negs! Only because I have read on the boards so many complaints about them.

Big deal, that is the same percentage if someone with 500 transactions had 1 neg.

Not even close to being significant "unhappy atmosphere" for buyers in general, for Ebay to see the need to do anything about it.

Re: One more issue

horizon1907 — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 06:06:25 GMT

That's EXACTLY right h b h Hit the nail right on the head. Aint nuffing we little folk can do. PS ebay DO NOT care about anything but the $$$$$ & it will only get worse.

Re: One more issue

2106greencat — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 06:20:19 GMT

@horizon1907 wrote:
That's EXACTLY right h b h Hit the nail right on the head. Aint nuffing we little folk can do. PS ebay DO NOT care about anything but the $$$$$ & it will only get worse.

One shudders to think just how much worse it can get horizon.........

I have been a seller and a buyer and recently thought to sell again, a few items personally, not as a business anymore, but once I read the rules and regs and returns and defects...................

I would rather donate my stuff to a charity that will put it to good use, quite frankly, than try to handle the carp on here these days.

It is sad, I remember the eBay of old (and I mean OLD) and it was a great place, like a big garage sale, now it is just a circus, making sellers jump through so many hoops they must be too dizzy by the time they have figured out whether or not the money they have been paid is actually theirs yet!!

Re: One more issue

cmcoins2000 — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 06:26:44 GMT

@2106greencat wrote:
@horizon1907 wrote:
That's EXACTLY right h b h Hit the nail right on the head. Aint nuffing we little folk can do. PS ebay DO NOT care about anything but the $$$$$ & it will only get worse.
One shudders to think just how much worse it can get horizon.........

I have been a seller and a buyer and recently thought to sell again, a few items personally, not as a business anymore, but once I read the rules and regs and returns and defects...................

I would rather donate my stuff to a charity that will put it to good use, quite frankly, than try to handle the carp on here these days.

It is sad, I remember the eBay of old (and I mean OLD) and it was a great place, like a big garage sale, now it is just a circus, making sellers jump through so many hoops they must be too dizzy by the time they have figured out whether or not the money they have been paid is actually theirs yet!!

What money we have been paid.

I thought sellers only paid fees - not got paid.

Perhaps if there was a buyer or two left this just may happen - but - ??????