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EBAY RIPPED ME OFF BAD EBAY

lickabyte08 — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 16:23:26 GMT

EBAY RIPPED ME OFF * BAD EBAY *

7in Wireless Video Doorbell Security Intercom IR Door Phone Camera Touch Display

Item no: 281483959116

Sale date:07/11/14 10:10

Quantity: 1 AU $29.00 DOWN THE DRAIN

We had to remove this listing from the site and you're not required to complete the transaction. If you've already sent payment, the sale should process as normal and you don't have anything to worry about. If you have any questions about delivery, please check tracking or contact your seller. If you run into any trouble along the way eBay is here to help. Please visit theo help resolve any problems you may encounter

we're sorry there's an issue with your purchase.

Unfortunately, this item isn't in a category covered by

We don't offer buyer protection on

items listed in the Real Estate category, certain Motors categories, or in the Classified Ad format.You can try to work out this problem by

Re: EBAY RIPPED ME OFF BAD EBAY

lickabyte08 — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 16:26:08 GMT

ALL AFTER I PAID FOR IT

SO WHO IS COVERED BY

buyer protection

BIT RUDE A

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lickabyte08 — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 16:30:23 GMT

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,We're writing to let you know that we've removed an item you recently won:

281483959116 - 7in Wireless Video Doorbell Security Intercom IR Door Phone Camera Touch Display
Since you've already paid for the item, you don't need to do anything else. If your item hasn't arrived yet, it should arrive soon. If it doesn't, then you'll want to open a case in our Resolution Centre. You can learn how to do this, plus find timelines for opening cases, at

Re: EBAY RIPPED ME OFF BAD EBAY

lickabyte08 — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 16:31:25 GMT

SO EBAY WHEN DO I GET MY MONEY BACK

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lyndal1838 — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:20:49 GMT

There is no point in yelling at us.....we are only volunteer members who try to help with problems. Ebay staff do not read or respond on the boards.

First things first.....ebay do not give you your money back. You need to make a claim through the paypal Resolution Centre.

As the item was listed in the wrong category which is not covered by paypal protection I suggest you RING paypal and tell them that the item was not a car or real estate but was listed in the wrong category.

It may not work but it is worth a try. And rather than be belligerent and rude I suggest you curb your temper and speak nicely to the representative on the phone....after all they are not to blame for your predicament and you want them to help you.

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cq_tech — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:02:08 GMT

It was a scammer's listing, specifically listed in one of those categories for that very reason. I'm surprised the OP truly believes he can buy a 7" wireless intercom for just $29 and he should have known better. Still, it's a bit rough when Paypal use that clause to get out of having to refund the buyer's money and I'd be lodging a dispute with the Ombudsman and making sure I got my money back.

Where is eBay's duty of care anyway? They knew it was a scammer yet they allowed the listing to sit there long enough to catch out the OP and God knows how many others, all of whom now run the risk of losing their money because eBay didn't do their job properly. Their usual comeback of "but we're only a venue" is starting to get a bit old these days.

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lyndal1838 — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:00:54 GMT

Yes CQ, I am aware of the circumstances of the listings....this is not the first threads we have seen on then boards.

It was always a matter of time before other buyers came here.

But as I see it, there is no point in calling in the big guns before appealing to paypal politely first. They may just surprise us all.

Have you read the latest on the thread where the seller issued a partial refund and expected the bracelet to be returned? Against all odds paypal refunded all her money as a goodwill gesture...and I am talking hundreds of $$ here....not a paltry $30.00.

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phorum_junkie* — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 21:49:50 GMT

Absolutely agree that Paypal will do the right thing in the end if you are persistent enough. If it was listed under motor vehicles then I should think Paypal will have automatically have sent a not covered response and if that is the case how can they know any different if the buyer doesn't let them know.

Give them a call, be polite but firm, ask to speak to a supervisor if you aren't getting anywhere and if still no go tell them that you will be contacting the FSO if you are not refunded within 48 hours.

If I had found a listing for anything other than a car in the cars category I would have reported it rather than buy it!

Re: EBAY RIPPED ME OFF BAD EBAY

lickabyte08 — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 23:02:32 GMT

Ok just to let the page know

So far the Resolution Centre open a case for me and i will find out in 5 days time i will repost when i find out ..

Thanks for the page ..

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imastawka — Wed, 19 Nov 2014 04:56:48 GMT

Lol @ shouting then whisper

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cherry*135 — Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:25:41 GMT

Good luck, I hope you get your money back.

Another scam trick.. listing items the wrong categories that don't have paypal buyer protection.

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homostuck — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:01:41 GMT

Oh, dear! It looks like you were scammed by one of those ***hole china sellers!

There is a way to get your money back. All credit goes to modestbods as this is his guide and it saved my ass as I almost got scammed off one of these sellers also.

Okay, here is where your problem is.

Neither eBay's Money Back Guarantee or Paypal's Buyer Protection covers vehicles, so by default it is not recognizing an item that was listed in the vehicles category. This does not however mean you're not covered.

Both eBay's MBG & Paypals BP state vehicles are not eligible, it doesn't however state that other items that are merely listing in the vehicle category are ineligible though. It's obviously an attempt by a scammer to find a loop hole, a call to eBay customer service or Paypal customer service should get it sorted for you.

I'd go through Paypal customer service if I were you. If they try and fob you off and tell you it's ineligible because it's in vehicles category, draw their attention to their own user agreement here >> https://cms.paypal.com/sg/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content&content_ID=ua/UserAgreement_full&locale.x=en_... PayPal Buyer Protection.

7.3 Ineligible Items. PayPal Buyer Protection only applies to PayPal payments for certain tangible, physical goods. Payments for the following are noteligible for reimbursement under PayPal Buyer Protection:

Intangible items, including Digital Goods (subject to exceptions as listed in Section 7.6)
Services
Real estate
Businesses (when you buy a business)
Vehicles, including motorcycles, caravans, aircrafts and boats
Custom made items
Travel tickets, including airline flight tickets
Items prohibited by PayPal's Acceptable Use Policy or by eBay's Prohibited or Restricted Items Policy
Items which you collect in person, or arrange to be collected on your behalf, including at a retail point of sale
Industrial machinery used in manufacturing
Items equivalent to cash, including prepaid or gift cards
Personal Payments

Even if your payment is not eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection, you can file a Dispute and resolve the issue directly with the Seller, however, PayPal will not find in your favor if you escalate a Dispute to a Claim when an item is not eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection.

And point out to them that nowhere does it say that an item is not eligible if it is listed in vehicles category when it is not a vehicle, boat etc...

If they still try to fob you off,, which I doubt they will, but if they do, then let them know that you'll be filing a complaint with the Financial Services Ombudsman.

Good luck."

Give PayPal a phone call.

Re: EBAY RIPPED ME OFF BAD EBAY

lickabyte08 — Wed, 26 Nov 2014 10:32:24 GMT

no no money as yet still wantting will post here when i get it thanks

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lickabyte08 — Sat, 29 Nov 2014 23:55:27 GMT

OMG cant get eBay to respond to this now they sent a email saying have i heard from the seller but noway of replying to it lol

they have giving me till 3/12/2014 to let them know so i sent yet another email to them what a joke for $29.. its not the money now it's the principle of the thing

will post when i hear more if i live that long ..

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lyndal1838 — Sun, 30 Nov 2014 01:33:05 GMT

Don't waste your time with emails...they have a turnaround time og 48 hours if you are lucky.

Get on the phone and talk to someone....problems are usually solved while you are talking to them.

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lickabyte08 — Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:20:00 GMT

k to day i got the email yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

its over .. well nilly lol

thats all that listen to me thanks

Hello Garry,
Thanks for contacting ebay about the item you have bought from seller (yourself123d) and have not yet received. I understand you paid for the item in good faith and I am sorry to know that the transaction did not push through smoothly. Let me help you.

I checked the transaction thoroughly and based on the case outcome, I see that the case has been decided on your favor. With this, you will be able to get a refund for your money and for now we highly appreciate your patience while we are still processing your refund.

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i-love-my-sheep — Tue, 02 Dec 2014 09:10:29 GMT

That's great news Garry! A lot of buyers are being stung by these scammers at the moment, who deliberately list in the motors category, thinking scammed buyers won't be able to make a claim against them.

Some members here managed to get one sellers listings removed today, for exactly the same thing. Sadly, a lot of people had already bought, so hopefully they either know they can contact eBay/PayPal and fight for their money back, or come here and ask for advice.

Thankfully, your seller is now NARU, which is great news. Sadly, he will just create a new account and start all over again, but at the moment, he can't scam anyone else. I would like to think that after awhile they will get sick of doing these listings and then buyers all getting a refund, meaning they don't get any of the money.

Remember now, to ALWAYS check a sellers feedback and ALWAYS check the category before buying. I've started checking the categories myself as it's not something I would have thought to do before. I always check feedback though and won't buy from anyone with less than 99.5%.

EBay might have to change their rules about the motors category, to try and stop these scammers. I can't see it happening though.