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Changing tactics when purchasing

lsb.123 — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 01:55:15 GMT

Most sellers are really good at posting when they say they will. But am starting to get problems with some who do nothing after payment without a bit of prompting. I always pay as soon as I have bought an item. Now I am going to purchase but not pay until the seller asks me too. At least I know then there is somewhere there! And I will ask if they are mailing straight after they receive payment. If they don't, it will show in the feedback.

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

lyndal1838 — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 02:05:34 GMT

Do you have a question or do you just us to reassure you that your questionable practices are OK?

JMO but I hope the seller opens an unpaid item dispute to get his money. Do you intend to throw in a bit of feedback extortion by advising the seller that his feedback will suffer if he does not post immediately? What is his handling time....as long as he posts within that time he is doing nothing wrong and ebay will remove your feedback.

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

fixnwear — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 02:11:01 GMT

lsb.123

Great idea, but it may backfire!

In spite of f/back being a great threathening tool, an instant "feel good" tablet and a smug satisfaction of "" that's telling them"

it may be removed if seller can prove that they have posted it within the time specified in the listing, ie: 3 working days, 5 working days

They don't have to drop everything to post your item instantly they see the payment - in fact, with holding of the payment and asking them if they post there and then you have a much better chance of delaying it even further - most of them would take the maximum time within their time allowance to post.

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

digital*ghost — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 02:25:11 GMT

@lsb.123 wrote:
Most sellers are really good at posting when they say they will. But am starting to get problems with some who do nothing after payment without a bit of prompting. I always pay as soon as I have bought an item. Now I am going to purchase but not pay until the seller asks me too. At least I know then there is somewhere there! And I will ask if they are mailing straight after they receive payment. If they don't, it will show in the feedback.

It is a shame you're allowing a few less than perfect sellers change your buying behaviour. I would hazard a guess that you didn't think this kind of buying behaviour was appropriate beforehand, but in fact see it as a form of 'payback' - I hope your (and/or other) sellers don't respond with the same idea.

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

lyndal1838 — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 02:50:27 GMT

I take it you realise that a lot of sellers read these boards, even if they do not post.

A post such as yours may ring alarm bells with many of them. They may well decide that they would prefer not to risk dealing with you at all and add you to their Blocked Bidders List.

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

bakeandfry — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 03:35:57 GMT

Its quite possable with the way you are thinking to end up having disputes opened against you.

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 04:05:02 GMT

Once you have paid for an item the seller should send it as soon as possible without any deliberate delays. However having said that, some sellers stipulate handling time up front, so buyers need to make sure before they hit the buy it now button.

I do not agree with not paying for the item once you hit the buy it now, because it is a breach of contract.

Poor communication is the cause of most disputes.........

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

lyndal1838 — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 04:24:56 GMT

The seller is quite entitled to wait the handling time before posting. There is absolutely nothing that says they must post as soon as the buyer pays. If they have 2 days or a week as handling time then that is as soon as they are obliged to post.

It would be interesting to see the handling time on some of the listings the OP is complaining about.

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

curraone — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 04:35:24 GMT

Will usually send within 10business days of receiving cleared payment

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

harley_babes_hoard — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 05:19:57 GMT

if you purchase from me I won't be asking for payment. I will simply open a dispute in 4 days time. If you pay good I'll post if not you will cop a strike on your account. Be prepared to be blocked from many many sellers if you end up with 2 strikes in 12 months.

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

horizon1907 — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 06:16:21 GMT

@lsb.123 wrote:
Most sellers are really good at posting when they say they will. But am starting to get problems with some who do nothing after payment without a bit of prompting. I always pay as soon as I have bought an item. Now I am going to purchase but not pay until the seller asks me too. At least I know then there is somewhere there! And I will ask if they are mailing straight after they receive payment. If they don't, it will show in the feedback.

Your Fb left for others is interesting to say the least.

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

lane-ends — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 10:08:06 GMT

Why would a seller deliberately delay sending something. where is the advantage in that?

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

davewil1964 — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 11:02:20 GMT

@horizon1907 wrote:
@lsb.123 wrote:
Most sellers are really good at posting when they say they will. But am starting to get problems with some who do nothing after payment without a bit of prompting. I always pay as soon as I have bought an item. Now I am going to purchase but not pay until the seller asks me too. At least I know then there is somewhere there! And I will ask if they are mailing straight after they receive payment. If they don't, it will show in the feedback.
Your Fb left for others is interesting to say the least.

Certanly some issues there.

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

i-love-my-sheep — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:48:41 GMT

I still don't get why buyers come in here spouting about making things hard for a seller. Do they think there will be no repercussions?

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

davewil1964 — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 13:22:29 GMT

Presumably they have the same cavalier attitude as they do to their feedback leaving. And have no idea how eBay works, or that sellers (or anybody else with internet access) can view their posts.

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 21:34:58 GMT

No advantage, but once the seller has been paid motivation can become a little lazy

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

cq_tech — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 22:45:13 GMT

@lyndal1838 wrote:
I take it you realise that a lot of sellers read these boards, even if they do not post.
A post such as yours may ring alarm bells with many of them. They may well decide that they would prefer not to risk dealing with you at all and add you to their Blocked Bidders List.

Already done Lyndal, and what a coincidence you should mention that. You must be clairvoyant.

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

springyzone — Thu, 19 Mar 2015 04:24:28 GMT

Isb wrote:

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Yes it is dreary when you have to prompt a seller to post, after you have done the right thing and paid quickly.

But tell us, how is your new idea going to work, because it does not discriminate. No seller, good or bad, is going to post until you pay & if you don't pay, you might cop an unpaid item dispute, as others have mentioned. Some sellers are fed up with slow payers and won't beg, they will just go straight into dispute after 4 days.

I have a better idea for you. Buy and continue paying immediately, as you have been doing.

If you find that a seller marks it as sent and item arrives fairly promptyly, without you having to do another thing, leave positive feedback.

If on the other hand, you pay immediately and after 3 or 4 days you see no sign it has been sent, and have to ask & the reply indicates it had not been posted till you enquired, then reflect that in your star rating. Give them low stars for postage.

That way, your feddback will reflect the individual transaction, which is what it is meant to do.

I am surprised you are having this trouble. I used to sometimes strike it but I haven't lately, not in a long time.

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

k1ooo-slr-sales — Thu, 19 Mar 2015 10:35:51 GMT

@lsb.123 wrote:
Most sellers are really good at posting when they say they will. But am starting to get problems with some who do nothing after payment without a bit of prompting. I always pay as soon as I have bought an item. Now I am going to purchase but not pay until the seller asks me too. At least I know then there is somewhere there! And I will ask if they are mailing straight after they receive payment. If they don't, it will show in the feedback.

I know . . . . . it's not often that I have nothing to say . . . . . but this is just such an occasion

Just how old is the OP? They sound like a petulent teenager . . . . . whahhhhhh . . . . . whahhhhh . . . . . . . whahhhhhhh!

Re: Changing tactics when purchasing

fixnwear — Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:11:48 GMT

springyzone,

I don't think that your advice to OP is a good one at all.

In fact, it almost looks as bad idea as his was!

Exactly the same actually.

Pay, if they post straight away - fine, or pay and if they don't post for next 3/4 days then mark their stars down for postage!

That was your advice - wasn't it?

Too busy to read it all over again, but I think I have got the gist of it.

Except the sellers have every right to hold of the postage for already paid items and only post within their time frame for handling, which is always on every listing.

From what I see all over the boards, most sellers (even those who DO post straight away) still have 3 - 5 days time in the listings to give themselves a bit of respite and breathing space from all the carp that Ebay is dishing out of lately - and buyers, instead of helping them are trying to really screw them into the ground!

What's the big idea?

Get rid of all the sellers, intimidate them into total compliance with all this utter rubbish - and that is at the time when no seller actually has incentive any longer to bend backwards or do anything extra or above for anyone - as they would have already scored a defect (whatever that is - something obviously that's going to impede their selling on Ebay).

In a present sick climate - the oposite is what should happen:

If all buyers and sellers forget petty complaints, forgive stupid things like "instant postage as I paid straight away", "or I have a spot

on my item " or anything else just as dumb - no one would get any defects - unless it's for something very serious - but it hardly ever is, just looking at the complaints about mostly nothing across the boards - and Ebay just may realize that that wasn't such a great idea after all!