topic Re: It started as one. in Buying

It started as one.

go-tazz — Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:03:58 GMT

Now it's up to 23 scam listings here,43 international ones and they even have coloured ones now,

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p3984.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=Rare+Baby+Ginseng+Fruit+Pear+Tree&_sacat=0

One has grown to 4 scam listings for these,(not as believable?),

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p3984.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=Female+Ginseng+Health+Fruit+Eggplan&_sacat=0

Still close to 400 of these scam listings,

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p3984.m570.l2632.R2.TR4.TRC1.A0.H0.Xrainbow+rose.TRS0&_nkw=rainbow+rose+seeds&_sacat=2032

You would think that after being reported for over two years that they must realize that they are a

laughing stock in gardening forums,

A number of other scam listings are still available in the Rose category,

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p3984.m570.l1311.R4.TR8.TRC1.A0.H0.Xblack+rose.TRS0&_nkw=black+rose+seeds&_sacat=0

Re: It started as one.

padi*0409 — Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:45:39 GMT

Now the Phillipines as well as China is jumping on the lucrative bandwagon Taz.

"Trust and Safety", what a misnomer that is....................grrrrrr.

Re: It started as one.

go-tazz — Fri, 18 Dec 2015 09:35:38 GMT

@padi*0409 wrote:
Now the Phillipines as well as China is jumping on the lucrative bandwagon Taz.

They generally aren't far behind the Chinese scammers,

"Trust and Safety", what a misnomer that is....................grrrrrr.

They just don't care or have been told to leave them alone,(the Chinese sellers have a "manager" that

seems to control them and they control what they list and what they get away with).

The part I find abhorrent is that sooner or later there will be Aussie sellers that will join these ~~scumbags,~~

scammers,(the same as in the other categories),

Re: It started as one.

padi*0409 — Fri, 18 Dec 2015 09:38:44 GMT

Unfortunately there already are Taz on this one...............

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p3984.m570.l1311.R4.TR8.TRC1.A0.H0.Xblack+rose.TRS0&_nkw=black+rose+seeds&_sacat=0

Re: It started as one.

go-tazz — Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:50:39 GMT

@padi*0409 wrote:
Unfortunately there already are Taz on this one...............

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p3984.m570.l1311.R4.TR8.TRC1.A0.H0.Xblack+rose.TRS0&_nkw=black+rose+seeds&_sacat=0

Aussie scam sellers seem to forget that the buyers have access to some of their info and are able to maybe

search them out,

Re: It started as one.

*tippy*toes* — Fri, 18 Dec 2015 12:23:25 GMT

The trouble is, they get so caught up in their scamming and they get away with it and get away with it and get away with it, so start to think they are untouchable and invincible. People start to get blase after awhile. They eventually slip up or try to scam the wrong person.

Re: It started as one.

maranock — Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:32:21 GMT

I popped onto ebays page on facebook to complain about the seed scam listings and someone immediately got in touch asking for the listing numbers (I only gave some Australian listings (with explanations as to why they were fake) as there are too many Chinese to count). They said they would immediately get on top of it so I thought that maybe this time something would be done.

That was over a week ago and still the listing are there. Oh well, you can only try.

Re: It started as one.

maranock — Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:45:41 GMT

There is also the two Aussie sellers selling 'saffron crocus' seed. Many people might not know that saffron crocus never produces viable seed even when they produce seed at all, but the picture obviously shows the seed as safflower seed which is a grain grown for oil and stock feed. Also reported but how would a computer or city bound employees know that they are fake without having to take my word for it.

Re: It started as one.

go-tazz — Fri, 18 Dec 2015 21:02:21 GMT

The way I've reported these type of scam listings in the past with a little bit of success was to include a link.

To report them you need to use the Help & Contact link at the top of any eBay page,(then use the report a

member option so that you can get to their Email option).

Ones like these:

http://www.designboom.com/art/rainbow-roses/

http://www.snopes.com/photos/natural/rainbowroses.asp

http://greenharvest.com.au/Plants/Information/SaffronCrocus.html

http://www.vegetablegardener.com/item/2405/how-to-grow-saffron/page/all

Re: It started as one.

go-tazz — Fri, 18 Dec 2015 21:26:55 GMT

@maranock wrote:
I popped onto ebays page on facebook to complain about the seed scam listings and someone immediately got in touch asking for the listing numbers (I only gave some Australian listings (with explanations as to why they were fake) as there are too many Chinese to count). They said they would immediately get on top of it so I thought that maybe this time something would be done.

That was over a week ago and still the listing are there. Oh well, you can only try.

That's generally what happens via reports as well,(as they thank you for the report and it will be investigated

but nothing ever gets done),

@*tippy*toes* wrote:
The trouble is, they get so caught up in their scamming and they get away with it and get away with it and get away with it, so start to think they are untouchable and invincible. People start to get blase after awhile. They eventually slip up or try to scam the wrong person.

Unfortunately some of the Chinese sellers don't even believe that they are doing anything wrong as their

suppliers will them that that the listings are genuine,(that the reply I got back when I Emailed one of them).

Then their account managers just tell them to keep listing them.

Re: It started as one.

harley_babes_hoard — Fri, 18 Dec 2015 22:40:07 GMT

It's just got out of hand. Too many scammers even aussie ones. I asked a scammer the other day if the pictures were from their own plant (Which I doubted) and they answered yes. So I then asked if they could take a picture of it now with a coke can, bottle of water or jar of vegemite just something recognizable so I could see the size of it. LOL never heard back from them. Obviously they don't eat or drink and couldn't fulfill my request.

Re: It started as one.

joethenuts — Sat, 19 Dec 2015 00:00:40 GMT

are we talking about the big banana , because i have a big roll of sticky tape and its real

Re: It started as one.

go-tazz — Sat, 19 Dec 2015 03:28:21 GMT

@joethenuts wrote:
are we talking about the big banana , because i have a big roll of sticky tape and its real

That's because the sticky tape is real.

The Big Banana,the Rainbow rose seeds,the Black and Blue Rose seeds,the Blue and some other

Strawberry seeds,the Purple Tomatoes and various other scam listings are not real,(they can not and do

not exist),

Most are photo shopped and some buyers have even been sent weed seeds,

@harley_babes_hoard wrote:
It's just got out of hand. Too many scammers even aussie ones. I asked a scammer the other day if the pictures were from their own plant (Which I doubted) and they answered yes. So I then asked if they could take a picture of it now with a coke can, bottle of water or jar of vegemite just something recognizable so I could see the size of it. LOL never heard back from them. Obviously they don't eat or drink and couldn't fulfill my request.

There are even photos out there now where they have put the Rainbow Roses in pots and in a field of Roses

to try and make buyers bleieve that they are real,

A scammer has no conscience as to them it's all about getting the money,(any way they can),

Re: It started as one.

harley_babes_hoard — Sat, 19 Dec 2015 04:05:25 GMT

I can also tell you they have moved on to Frangipani, Hippeastrum and Lycoris bulbs too.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lycoris-Radiata-Spider-lily-Lycoris-Bulb-5-Bulbs-Each-Color-8-Color-Availabl-/221913316769?var=&hash=item33ab107da1:m:mjp7BprLjTpj1HNQXwN3cZA

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Green-Lycoris-Radiata-Spider-lily-Lycoris-Bulb-5-10-20-Bulbs-/221948441419?var=&hash=item33ad28734b:m:mjHeoiFrdw-dCc2lvDVH3jw

Re: It started as one.

harley_babes_hoard — Sat, 19 Dec 2015 04:20:13 GMT

heres some new ones, tulips and daisies

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/50-Pcs-Water-Color-Daisy-Seeds-Lovely-rainbow-watercolor-daisies-/181963751276?hash=item2a5de27f6c:g:VzkAAOSwZ1lWcYpJ

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-Pcs-world-rare-rainbow-tulip-bulbs-The-most-beautiful-flower-seeds-/181963755922?hash=item2a5de29192:g:RVIAAOSwk1JWcYtN

the picture the seller is using if for a worsleya plant - recieved rain lilys	m***e ( 25)	During past month
	Rare Amaryllis Bulbs,Hippeastrum Bulbs (they are not Hippeastrum seeds) 2 Bulbs (#181890079316)

Re: It started as one.

go-tazz — Sat, 19 Dec 2015 05:53:46 GMT

@harley_babes_hoard wrote:
heres some new ones, tulips and daisies

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/50-Pcs-Water-Color-Daisy-Seeds-Lovely-rainbow-watercolor-daisies-/181963751276?hash=item2a5de27f6c:g:VzkAAOSwZ1lWcYpJ

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-Pcs-world-rare-rainbow-tulip-bulbs-The-most-beautiful-flower-seeds-/181963755922?hash=item2a5de29192:g:RVIAAOSwk1JWcYtN

the picture the seller is using if for a worsleya plant - recieved rain lilys
m***e ( 25)
During past month
Rare Amaryllis Bulbs,Hippeastrum Bulbs (they are not Hippeastrum seeds) 2 Bulbs (#181890079316)

It's another monster created by online selling sites including this one and they who don't care if a member gets

scammed as long as they can collect the selling fees,

Re: It started as one.

maranock — Sat, 19 Dec 2015 08:41:31 GMT

I suppose you have to admire their imagination.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Promo-10-pcs-rainbow-lemon-seeds-organic-can-be-eaten-/181904177357?hash=item2a5a5578cd:g:tzAAAOSwNSxVcPfR

Re: It started as one.

go-tazz — Sat, 19 Dec 2015 08:55:39 GMT

@maranock wrote:
I suppose you have to admire their imagination.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Promo-10-pcs-rainbow-lemon-seeds-organic-can-be-eaten-/181904177357?hash=item2a5a5578cd:g:tzAAAOSwNSxVcPfR

That is now bordering on the ludicrous,,,

And a few more,

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/100Pcs-Rainbow-Chrysanthemum-Flowers-Livingstone-Daisy-Seeds-Color-Garden-Plant-/311432677428?hash=item4882d58834:g:37kAAOSw0JpV3WEl

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/10-RAINBOW-GRAPES-SEEDS-Edible-Fruit-Garden-Colourful-Grapevine-Vine-Tasty-/131662036580?hash=item1ea7ab3e64:g:fwcAAOSwD0lUfmG6

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Bolivian-Rainbow-Chili-x20-seeds-V0327-/252210055789?hash=item3ab8e40a6d:g:EE4AAOSwnH1WbBuc

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/100PCS-Rainbow-Himalayan-Orchid-Flower-Seeds-Courtyard-Bonsai-Home-Gardening-/301718179575?hash=item463fce0ef7:g:hN4AAOSwWnFV~3Hw

Re: It started as one.

lyndal1838 — Sat, 19 Dec 2015 09:52:27 GMT

Tazz, I don't believe the Bolivian Rainbow Chili seeds should be a target.

I don't know about Bolivian, but I have grown rainbow chilis for years....they were called Ornamental chilis many years ago.

Re: It started as one.

*tippy*toes* — Sat, 19 Dec 2015 09:59:48 GMT

I think the rainbow chillies I had were sold as Thai chillies. Got 'em from Bunnings. The ones I had were edible.