topic Re: Scam in Buying

Scam

auuser1111 — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 09:52:57 GMT

This classified listing, for a Harley Davidson motorcycle, is linked to a Google Wallet vehicle purchase scam. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290933387682

It started it's life as a BUY IT NOW listing, which obviously didn't work, so now it is as above.

The "seller" makes contact and wants the buyer to pay using this BOGUS site: http://google.wallet-ltd.com

I have reported it to Ebay, Google and the domain registrar and they have done nothing about it. The listing ticks all the boxes as far as Ebay are concerned: offers Paypal, has a phone number, etc.

Maybe if lots of people flood the "seller" with questions it might go away?

Anyway I hate people trying to rip me off and I have done my bit. BEWARE OF CLASSIFIED LISTINGS !

Below are the first and second emails I received after making contact:

Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 10:17 AM Subject: RE: 05 HARLEY-DAVIDSON FLSTCI Heritage Softail Classic for $9550
Thank you for the interest showed in my bike, and sorry for the late reply but I have just moved to England with my job. Don't worry though, the bike is there in Australia, stored with a transport company. It was left to me in my father's will 2 months ago, and to be honest I have no use for a bike and I never owned a bike before and I don't even have a license, but I can assure you it runs as great as it looks, my father took great care of it. The price I am asking is $9,550 and it includes shipping anywhere in Australia. Because of this situation, me being in UK, I have made special arrangements that allow me to sell the bike there without me being present and will allow you to inspect it, so if you are still interested in it please email me back so I can explain to you how can this be done safely for both of us.

Here are some pics of the bike: http://img46.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=32718410.jpg

Cheers

PS: please get back to me soon as I have 3 other people very interested!

VIN: 5HD1JFB176Y029443
Rego: 1H4VQ-Vic exp Dec 2013
Engine Number: JFB6029443

2005 HARLEY-DAVIDSON FLSTCI Heritage Softail Classic (1450),5800 kms.This bike is in new condition as has been garaged all its life.It has been custom designed with many unique features. Rarely driven in Winter and does several runs each summer, hence low Kilometers. many extras like custom passenger seat, click on and of in 10 seconds. two tone paint job, tank and guards, saddle bags and many other extras. It has a road king remake front look, fat boy seat and full chrome handle bar with accessories.The engine has not been modified

Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 12:17 PM Subject: RE: 05 HARLEY-DAVIDSON FLSTCI Heritage Softail Classic for $9550
The bike is now at a transport company in Darwin NT, all packed and ready for shipping, it was taken there in storage after I left the country. I want the transaction to be handled trough Google Wallet http://google.wallet-ltd.com.au because they offer protection both for buyer and seller and you can inspect the bike. You will make the payment to Google Wallet and they will keep the money in a secure bank account until you will receive and inspect the bike. You will have a 4 days to inspect it. If the bike is not as described it will be shipped back on my expense and Google Wallet will give you a full refund. This way, you will be able to inspect the vehicle before committing to buy it and I know that you have the money and you aren't just fooling around.
In order to move forward and register the transaction with Google Wallet I will need your full name, address and phone number, after that they will send you the instructions on how to safely make the payment to them. You can set up an account with them anytime, it is free, just press Sign Up on their website and follow the steps.

cheers
my phone number is - international format: +44 1414167668

PS: all shipping expenses will be covered by me

Re: Scam

zelly888 — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 10:11:48 GMT

This is one amazing scam that's for sure as who in their right mind would pay for it b4 inspecting it,I hope that no one even attempts to purchase the bike.

Re: Scam

auuser1111 — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 10:21:21 GMT

Just on 10K is a lot for anyone to lose, but I fear some young person could get sucked in. If you search for "Google Wallet vehicle purchase scam" it has been around for awhile, but this is quite sophisticated the way a dedicated domain has been set up and knowing how to navigate around ebay's scrutiny.

Re: Scam

foxette-in-sox — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 10:22:13 GMT

This is one amazing scam that's for sure as who in their right mind would pay for it b4 inspecting it,I hope that no one even attempts to purchase the bike.

Um er maybe the same dingalings who come onto the boards complaining about being ripped off when they bought something at a too good to be true price,knew it but bought it anyway ie check the hijack hunters thread & see how many people have NO common sense-sigh.

Re: Scam

davewil1964 — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 10:54:07 GMT

$10k for a hardly ridden Harley.

As Bill Cosby would say - "Right!"

Interesting that they are not claiming that eBay/Paypal has an escrow service.

From Google - Note: Google Wallet does not accept payments via Western Union/Money Gram, nor does it use any escrow type of payment.

That solves that then. Mind you, it took me 5 seconds to find that information.

As with most scams, this one is self-selecting; the mugs select themselves by seeing the bargain and not doing simple research.

Caveat emptor.

Re: Scam

phorum_junkie* — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:15:43 GMT

I wonder what would happen if I logged into my Google wallet and tried to pay for that bike?

Maybe it would be me who scored a freebie, I purchased something from Google+ on the 24th, delivery expected on the 27th. On the 27th Google wallet still shows the payment as pending and nothing had come off my card. Rang them up and they said there must be a problem with my payment and to call back next day. parcel arrived half an hour later and they still have not taken the payment, nearly $300 (Au$450)!

Re: Scam

shahmink — Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:24:03 GMT

I wonder what would happen if I logged into my Google wallet and tried to pay for that bike?

Maybe it would be me who scored a freebie, I purchased something from Google+ on the 24th, delivery expected on the 27th. On the 27th Google wallet still shows the payment as pending and nothing had come off my card. Rang them up and they said there must be a problem with my payment and to call back next day. parcel arrived half an hour later and they still have not taken the payment, nearly $300 (Au$450)!

Happy EOFY phorum_junkie* but I wouldn't push it.

Re: Scam

michael.duff — Tue, 02 Jul 2013 01:24:39 GMT

Totally agree. Check this advert from justauto.com.au and notice the difference in Km's compared to the 5800Km's on eBay. Also the referencing auuser1111 post which indicates:

VIN: 5HD1JFB176Y029443
Rego: 1H4VQ-Vic exp Dec 2013
Engine Number: JFB6029443

Again noticing that the justauto.com.au advert states no RWC or Registration.

JUSTAUTO.com.au ADVERT http://www.justauto.com.au/justbikes/buy_and_sell/for_sale/JBW3217236

Vehicle:2005 HARLEY-DAVIDSON SOFTAIL HERITAGE CLASSIC FLSTCI

Asking price:Removed

Body :CRUISER

Odometer:26,780 Kms

RWC:No

Fuel System:4 STK OHV 4V A/C 1

Registered:No

Transmission:5 SPEED MANUAL

VIN:JFB6029443

Re: Scam

love-your-smile — Tue, 02 Jul 2013 02:53:11 GMT

Location: Elizabeth

Typical... lol

Re: Scam

bsal6160 — Tue, 02 Jul 2013 07:37:20 GMT

I would have replied to the emails asking for your name and address with:

Mr Richard Cranium

Yanlou Wang St,

Hades

ph, 66-666-666

Re: Scam

phorum_junkie* — Tue, 02 Jul 2013 08:46:15 GMT

Buglar! they have finally taken the payment:_| At least I will now get my Tesco club card points 😉

Re: Scam

auuser1111 — Tue, 02 Jul 2013 13:18:15 GMT

Well spotted 🙂

Re: Scam

auuser1111 — Tue, 02 Jul 2013 13:21:06 GMT

I should have said "well spotted michael.duff". And the ebay ad just keeps rollin on !