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pitney bowes postal scam

ag4440 — Fri, 26 Sep 2014 09:14:14 GMT

the global shipping program is a scam

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2106greencat — Fri, 26 Sep 2014 09:17:36 GMT

It is not a scam, but it is not particularly 'friendly'.

Check through the boards and I am sure you will find quite a few threads that relate to GSP

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horizon1907 — Fri, 26 Sep 2014 09:37:21 GMT

Woeful to say the very least. IMO.

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zanadoo_56 — Fri, 26 Sep 2014 09:57:55 GMT

@ag4440 wrote:
the global shipping program is a scam

I agree with you. What else do you call a 'service' that is horribly overpriced, where you MIGHT get your purchase (or not), and if you do you MIGHT get it undamaged (if you are lucky). I reckon the S stands for Scam not Shipping.

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phorum_junkie* — Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:14:06 GMT

If you think it is so bad why keep buying from sellers who use it? Some US sellers have no idea what goes on after they have posted the item and don't realise how expensive it is or how poorly they treat their packages so if I see something I would have bought I email the seller and say that I would have bought from them if they did not use GSP.

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zanadoo_56 — Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:37:02 GMT

@phorum_junkie* wrote:
If you think it is so bad why keep buying from sellers who use it? Some US sellers have no idea what goes on after they have posted the item and don't realise how expensive it is or how poorly they treat their packages so if I see something I would have bought I email the seller and say that I would have bought from them if they did not use GSP.

I don't!

I usually contact sellers and ask if they will ship using a cheaper method (usually USPS 1st Class International with E-DELCON).

Some will, some won't.

Some don't realise parcels can be fully tracked to Oz using this cheaper method. Some don't even realise they have signed up for the GSP. Some don't realise they are advertising their items for sale to overseas buyers when they will only ship within the US. Most have no idea of the total cost to overseas buyers.....and then there's the sellers who don't care about their customers and think the GSP is the greatest thing since sliced bread because they can send everything to Pitney Bowes and if it all turns to custard, well it's not their fault.

There's nothing I buy that I must desperately have at any cost that would induce me to purchase it from a seller who only uses the GSP. I'd rather not bother at all...or I can wait and see if another seller has the same thing and doesn't use the GSP. Ebay items are like Melbourne trams....another one will be along eventually.

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ajarnjenny — Fri, 26 Sep 2014 13:59:11 GMT

Well. I swore that I would never use it.............but I did. I bought a very heavy quilted bedspread and pillowcases which would have cost a heap to send through normal postage, but it cost $29, which is really not too bad and it arrived in nine days. And the bedspread set itself was a very good price.

So, pick your items. It seems to have some value for heavier things.

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the_pooze — Sat, 27 Sep 2014 01:02:28 GMT

I just adore the G(igantic) S(tupendous) P(rofits) service.

Their offer of no care, no responsibility is great and their extra special offer of only shipping an item if they feel like it, and selling it through their eBay store if they don't feel like shipping it just clinches the deal for me every time.

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i-love-my-sheep — Sat, 27 Sep 2014 04:24:18 GMT

@ajarnjenny wrote:

So, pick your items. It seems to have some value for heavier things.

It often is cheaper for heavier things. I paid nearly half of what I would have if it went via USPS. Light things on the other hand, forget it. Plus you can't combine postage so you pay full postage on each item you buy.....then they all get sent together in one box. The seller doesn't get all that extra postage, GSP does. The seller gets their stars trashed though when I buyer finds out they've paid over $200 in postage and it only cost $25.

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lyndal1838 — Sat, 27 Sep 2014 06:44:24 GMT

@i-love-my-sheep wrote:
@ajarnjenny wrote:

So, pick your items. It seems to have some value for heavier things.
It often is cheaper for heavier things. I paid nearly half of what I would have if it went via USPS. Light things on the other hand, forget it. Plus you can't combine postage so you pay full postage on each item you buy.....then they all get sent together in one box. The seller doesn't get all that extra postage, GSP does. The seller gets their stars trashed though when I buyer finds out they've paid over $200 in postage and it only cost $25.

And how do you know whether the seller has the stars "tampered with" if you ding them over a GSP issue? It has already been stated that neutrals and negatives will be removed if they are GSP related.

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madamsmilla — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 23:25:47 GMT

Not a scam per say but it's a joke. You pay twice as much to get the goods in double the time. And eBay seem to be forcing sellers into using this program. I've had a parcel sitting with them for days and they haven't yet sent it onwards. And there's no way to contact them.

I will no longer buy from sellers that use this service.

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madamsmilla — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 23:27:46 GMT

I tried this with a seller and she has been so helpful. She cancelled the listing that used GSP and relisted so I could buy it without GSP but eBay overrode this and forced her to send via GSP. So it's not the seller's fault but I'm really cranky about it.

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what_a_load_of_scrap! — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 23:45:16 GMT

List your iPhone & if it doesn't sell we'll give you a $100 voucher to use on eBAY - Now that's a Scam!

Yes eBAY I caught you out didn't I....!

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terminalvelocd — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 02:45:45 GMT

I've purchased tens of items under the GSP. I've had items shipped to me from the US weighing in excess of 10kg for US$30 or so - a fraction of what it would cost me if the seller shipped via normal means. My only complaints are that FedEx tends to hold onto parcels for a few days since PBI only pay for economy shipping. Items take 2-3 weeks travel from the seller to the destination so the transit time is roughly equal to USPS Priority Mail from the US. While direct shipping from the seller is cheaper for small items, you can bet your life that GSP is *MUCH* cheaper if / when you're buying larger items, or large quantities of an item.

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i-love-my-sheep — Fri, 24 Oct 2014 06:34:00 GMT

You and your seller can override the GSP by logging into eBay US and you requesting an invoice through the shopping cart. The seller can then send an invoice with the postage cost for USPS. EBay even suggests that for small items you do this to save on paying ridiculous postage.

Another misconception is that sellers don't have a choice about using the GSP, that's a big furfy. Most have signed up not realising the implications for foreign buyers. THey can opt out any time they like.

As already mentioned, for larger, heavier items, it works out much cheaper to have it sent using the GSP.

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canberrafisher — Fri, 06 May 2016 13:28:11 GMT

I just got stung by these crooked **bleep**s. I had no idea what this charge was on my PP account NEVER had it before. On closer examination I realised they converted my payments to an exchange rate of $1Australian to $US0.7196cents...Bull **bleep**. I printed the exchange rate when I bought the items to be exactly sure of funds...I keep good books..The exchange rate was $1Aus = $US0.75... They have STOLEN over 3% from me. Then I paid shipping to the seller and then their bill amount just STOLEN straight from my PP and Bank Account at the DOCTORED exchange rate for shipping again, another $27.77...EBAY is over for me after over 15 years. I will be posting this everywhere I can online to show people what corporate theft really is.....It's name is EBAY and Pitney Bowes inc....Will be removing my listing NOW.
What a disgrace Ebay has become...

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lyndal1838 — Fri, 06 May 2016 14:40:09 GMT

Pitney Bowes is a shipping company....they have absolutely nothing to do with the exchange rates used by paypal, which you obviously do not understand anyway.

I advise you to stop badmouthing a company that has nothing to do with your misunderstanding of exchange rates.

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davidc4430 — Fri, 06 May 2016 17:20:58 GMT

if you feel so strongly that ebay/paypal/pitney bowes is ripping you off your only option is to stop buying on ebay.

comming onto a public forum and complaining wont change a multinational companys agenda.

all of these companys terms and condition are available to read, plus you agree to them everytime you hit the buy/bid button.

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4channel — Wed, 10 May 2017 02:36:51 GMT

I won't either madamsmilla. Paying double of what you would pay if you used First Class International just isn't an option to many people. I have collector friends who are so saddened by this. Many of them don't know what to do. I do agree with your stance. But, to me this is a joke but also smells like a scam-scheme.

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imastawka — Wed, 10 May 2017 02:39:49 GMT

4channel, stop already with the GSP bashing.

All you're doing is dragging up old threads, to no advantage.

We get it, that you don't like it.

Just get over it. Don't use it. Simple

It's not going away