topic Re: fraudulent listing practices in Buying

fraudulent listing practices

gregd61 — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 04:47:28 GMT

There are many scams perpetrated by ebay sellers (usually they come from ONE particular country!!! You know the one I mean!

Apart from most things being fake and poor quality they are now listing items with photos, and in some cases titles and descriptions that indicate multiple items in the auction (e.g. a photo of 24 arrow heads and wording that implies multiple arrow heads in the listing but when you dig into the details there is often a small entry that says something like '1 x' not the multiple in th ephoto etc.

Ebay must have some legal responsibility to enforce the removal of fakes, blackbanning sellers who list fakes or fraudulent listing practices...we can't even report them to ebay as the stupid 'report an itme' categories do not cover shonky practices.

Re: fraudulent listing practices

kopenhagen5 — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 05:48:15 GMT

It's appalling.

There is a misrepresenting item report from memory.

Otherwise you can select help n contact then report member and you get to write your concerns.

Re: fraudulent listing practices

porcelain_dolls_by_me — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 06:57:00 GMT

Ebay will only take action against the listing of counterfeit items when a formal complaint is lodged by the copyright holder of such items.

Re: fraudulent listing practices

go-tazz — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 07:52:08 GMT

Those listings can be reported via the Listing practises > Search and Browse manipulation > then

pick from the most appropriate box.

Re: fraudulent listing practices

gregd61 — Thu, 05 Oct 2017 20:53:41 GMT

Unfortunately the options ebay provide in their reporting options do not cover misrepresentation of items. another thing I've seen happening recently is an item appears in a search result with $0 against it but when you click on it the detailed listing has a price against it...not sure how they are manipulating search results but if you try to report it ebay will only see the detailed page not the false summary in the search result.

Re: fraudulent listing practices

gregd61 — Thu, 05 Oct 2017 21:00:47 GMT

No, there isn't a misrepresented item category (not any more) the closest thing is "Inappropriate item description" but the detailed irems in the drop down don't allow for false listing practices...trying to contact ebay via their 'contact us' takes ages as they force you to wade through pages of **bleep** and often you still can't report items if theyare from o\s listings (as most of the Chinese fake\misrepresenting sellers are)

Re: fraudulent listing practices

gregd61 — Thu, 05 Oct 2017 21:04:25 GMT

Not even then. I've had OEM's tell me they have asked ebay to stop listing faked versions of their products but all ebay does is stop that one seller....with the billions of Chinese selling fakes they just create a new id and continue selling and ebay keeps raking in fees (for which they don't pay a fair amount of Au tax if we are to belive the press)...maybe Trump will do something to protect OEM's?

Re: fraudulent listing practices

go-tazz — Thu, 05 Oct 2017 21:47:16 GMT

@gregd61 wrote:
Unfortunately the options ebay provide in their reporting options do not cover misrepresentation of items. another thing I've seen happening recently is an item appears in a search result with $0 against it but when you click on it the detailed listing has a price against it...not sure how they are manipulating search results but if you try to report it ebay will only see the detailed page not the false summary in the search result.

As stated,you have choices and if you checked the third drop down box after:

Listing practises > Search and Browse manipulation you have:

Keyword spamming,(for ones that use keywords that are not part of the low cost item).

Misleading title.(for the ones that don't have the low cost item stated in the listing title).

Or: Other Search and Browse manipulation for the ones that do have that item stated but have a lot of other

items at a far higher price,(they manipulate the search and browse via a higher standing in searches due to

having the low cost item).

Others you can report directly via the Help & Contact:

This gives you their direct links without having to go through their rigmarole:

eg: Call us,Call me,Chat with us and Email us.

http://ocsnext.ebay.com.au/ocs/cusr?query=1485

Just keep in mind that Call us or Call me option are only available

during business hours,(8 am to 9 pm Mon to Fri and 8 am to

5 pm on Sat and Sun).

Re: fraudulent listing practices

*tippy*toes* — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 00:19:48 GMT

Unfortunately, there is nothing you can do as the Chinese are the untouchables. They can do whatever they like with impunity. Most have given up reporting them because its futile.

Re: fraudulent listing practices

nitro-sales3 — Fri, 01 Dec 2017 00:11:31 GMT

I want to create some auto reporting software that can filter out listings and report them.

My biggest annoyance is Chinese sellers saying the item is located in Australian cities when they are based overseas.

My software would filter by location of sellers: China, item location: Australia click run and 40 years later it would have probably be half way through all the misrepresented listings on ebay.

Re: fraudulent listing practices

tedtooner — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 01:33:16 GMT

Yes I just realised a seller, suposedly from my country is obviously not because the item will take two weeks to arrive. This just annoys the cr... out of me.

Amazon might be the go from now on. AUSTRALIA.

Re: fraudulent listing practices

lyndal1838 — Thu, 21 Dec 2017 00:11:42 GMT

And Amazon might not be the answer either.

Have you done any research since Amazon started....so far it is an overpriced fizzer of a site.

There are many online sites in Australia that offer better value than Amazon.

Re: fraudulent listing practices

*tippy*toes* — Thu, 21 Dec 2017 10:45:22 GMT

Mods seem to be moving old threads again.

I'll be surprised if Amazon survives in Aus. Australians aren't usually stupid and they know when they are being ripped off. A lot of Amazon is a rip off......if you can actually find what you want.

Re: fraudulent listing practices

mrdooges — Sat, 28 Jul 2018 05:00:25 GMT

They'll survive. They want high prices now to cover their setup costs, they'll drop prices when they have to. What I don't like so much is not being able to purchase items from USA, UK or Eur. Prices much cheaper even including postage. Example Echo Dot $79 here=$US 58 on Amazon.au, go to Amazon USA site $US 19.95, that ladies and gentlemen is a RIPOFF.

Re: fraudulent listing practices

lyndal1838 — Sat, 28 Jul 2018 05:09:42 GMT

Don't be too sure of that.

Amazon in Australia has to operate under the conditions that have applied to Australian businesses for years.....high shipping costs to get their stock here, import fees and duties, high rental cost of B & M stores, high wages.....the list goes on.

The cost of doing business in Australia has always been high and always will be, mainly because of our isolation from the rest of the world.

Re: fraudulent listing practices

davewil1964 — Sat, 28 Jul 2018 06:42:58 GMT

@lyndal1838 wrote:
Don't be too sure of that.
Amazon in Australia has to operate under the conditions that have applied to Australian businesses for years.....high shipping costs to get their stock here, import fees and duties, high rental cost of B & M stores, high wages.....the list goes on.

The cost of doing business in Australia has always been high and always will be, mainly because of our isolation from the rest of the world.

Also high costs to deliver from the ~~warehouse~~ fulfilment center*. A country as large as the US with 6% of the population doesn't have quite the same economies of scale.

* I haven't checked but I can't imagine they would spell it properly.

Re: fraudulent listing practices

davewil1964 — Sat, 28 Jul 2018 06:47:30 GMT

Amazon has always been in the business of buying market share by running at a loss until established. Maybe they thought the free publicity they got in the leadup to opening here would be enough.

Third party sellers are charged significantly more there than here and have to wait to be paid by Amazon, so I suspect a lot of potential sellers have decided to give it a miss. I certainly did. Those who decided to join would not be prepared to run at a loss just to be a member.

Re: fraudulent listing practices

countessalmirena — Sat, 28 Jul 2018 13:15:52 GMT

I haven't bought from Amazon.com.au, although I continue to purchase from the US site as I can have items sent to my US address. I'm giving the French and UK sites a miss at present as the Australian dollar has been squashed against both the pound and the euro.