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Item in Australia? eBay and Aust. Post Partner UBI Smart Parcel to enable customer deception

the_fleecy_alpaca — Mon, 25 Sep 2017 08:34:16 GMT

Having waited 2 weeks for another item 'in the post' from a chinese registered seller claiming the item to be in Australia. I punched the reference number in the tracking website for Aust Post (it wasn't a tracking number - just the "AP Article ID" ) and found that the item had only been in their system for 4 days despite the seller marking it as posted 11 days earlier. A couple of emails asking which country it was being sent from were answered with either genuine or faked 'pigeon' english giving generic answers to anything but the question asked. The return address on the label is very interesting. UBI Smart Parcel. http://www.ubismartparcel.com/en/ubi-smart-parcel When I check their website I find they offer a service to chinese sellers in maintaining a 'virtual' overseas warehouse. They claim they can provide this seamless service including pre printing Australia Post franked address labels from back in China due to their extensive partnerships with companies including eBay and Australia Post. Why is eBay and our federal postal service aiding and abeting these miserable liars. I choose to purchase from Australian sellers who run businesses, pay taxes and employ people locally. Why would our own government allow Australia Post to participate in this deception that is hurting Australian sellers.

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prate1055 — Sat, 04 Nov 2017 20:27:28 GMT

This exact same thing is happening to me, choose to buy from Australia only to later find out it is from China and taking forever to arrive. EBay needs to stop this practice.

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prate1055 — Sat, 04 Nov 2017 20:29:24 GMT

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lyndal1838 — Mon, 06 Nov 2017 06:36:22 GMT

There are a number of logistics companies in Australia that provide warehousing facilities for overseas businesses and dispatch the goods via Australia Post when necessary.

It is all legit....the goods are in Australia as listed.

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digital*ghost — Mon, 06 Nov 2017 07:58:15 GMT

@the_fleecy_alpaca wrote:
Why is eBay and our federal postal service aiding and abeting these miserable liars. I choose to purchase from Australian sellers who run businesses, pay taxes and employ people locally. Why would our own government allow Australia Post to participate in this deception that is hurting Australian sellers.

UBI has been around for a few years, and while I understand there are now sellers using it to add legitimacy to false claims about an item's location, it hasn't always been that way and there are many sellers who offer it but are 100% up front about the item location. i.e. The problem more lies with the sellers who lie than anyone else.

Personally, I always select UBI Line (where available) if the package is not urgent enough for a courier. It's a little more expensive than standard air mail, but it's faster, and Aus Post at least get something for delivering the package once it arrives here. That would be Aus Post's incentive (and an understandable one all things considered). As for eBay - in a perfect world (or at least, on a perfect site), you could report sellers who are blatantly breaching policies and something would be done to curb it. Alas, ebay is very far from perfect.

The only recommendation I can make is to check a seller's feedback and profile page - feedback to check for ratings and comments re: postage time, and profile page to check where they are registered.

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fiona27au — Wed, 20 Dec 2017 21:24:01 GMT

Same here, add said one week delivery, been one week, aust post have not got item yet, tracked and comming from china, this seller will be geting all negative feedback

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maxwelloau — Wed, 03 Jan 2018 01:28:53 GMT

WFT! Ebay sending source says Botany Australia and so i purchased based on item is in Australia! Then instead of a few days pos IN Australia it looks like a total of 24 days it might be! Downright EBAY scamming.
Not happy Jan.

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lyndal1838 — Wed, 03 Jan 2018 03:12:37 GMT

There are a number of logistics companies located in Botany who act as warehouses for overseas sellers and dispatch the goods as ordered. They are not necessarily as quick at dispatching as the seller would be....but the goods are still in AUstralia and being dispatched via AP.

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mwilliames — Thu, 04 Jan 2018 22:03:08 GMT

We all need to ban together and stop the overseas sellers being able to sell under "Australia Only" listings. Its wrong. People want to support their country and know what they are buying is quality and is going to arrive in the time specified. If every one continues to report the ones using "virtual warehouses" things might change. Im a seller selling quality product and then get undercut with an inferior product at half the price. Trying to represent that your product is much superior is very hard via photos.

@the_fleecy_alpaca wrote:
Having waited 2 weeks for another item 'in the post' from a chinese registered seller claiming the item to be in Australia. I punched the reference number in the tracking website for Aust Post (it wasn't a tracking number - just the "AP Article ID" ) and found that the item had only been in their system for 4 days despite the seller marking it as posted 11 days earlier. A couple of emails asking which country it was being sent from were answered with either genuine or faked 'pigeon' english giving generic answers to anything but the question asked. The return address on the label is very interesting. UBI Smart Parcel. http://www.ubismartparcel.com/en/ubi-smart-parcel When I check their website I find they offer a service to chinese sellers in maintaining a 'virtual' overseas warehouse. They claim they can provide this seamless service including pre printing Australia Post franked address labels from back in China due to their extensive partnerships with companies including eBay and Australia Post. Why is eBay and our federal postal service aiding and abeting these miserable liars. I choose to purchase from Australian sellers who run businesses, pay taxes and employ people locally. Why would our own government allow Australia Post to participate in this deception that is hurting Australian sellers.

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tennis_sweetspot — Fri, 05 Jan 2018 01:11:18 GMT

yeah I bought a few of these and they were not warehoused in Aust like the "ebay apology merchants" above have stated. It is sent from china and labeled to look like it is from Aust but par for for the course dealing with scumbags like ebay and paypal. delivery est is always like 5-20 days but there is no way it will make anyhere near 5 days.

I have no problem buying direct from china but there are a lot of issues that make me want to know the truth up front.

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iautoplus — Tue, 16 Jan 2018 04:59:15 GMT

Ebay should ban Chinese scammer seller's!

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buybagsonline — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 09:03:39 GMT

I am so fed up with the chinese sellers using UBI smart parcel. Genuine Aussie sellers need to crack down on Ebay for allowing UBI smart parcel. I have just reported 20 listings that compete with my product and falsley state their location. They are destroying my business.

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buybagsonline — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 09:06:56 GMT

Need to do more than give them bad feedback. If you go into where it says "postage details", on that page it has a link that says "report item". Need to report them for Location Misrepresentation. If we all do this enough, Ebay might finally do something.

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padi*0409 — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 11:45:29 GMT

@buybagsonlinewrote:
Need to do more than give them bad feedback. If you go into where it says "postage details", on that page it has a link that says "report item". Need to report them for Location Misrepresentation. If we all do this enough, Ebay might finally do something.

Sorry to burst your bubble but eBay Australia will claim it's eBay China's problem and neither of them will do anything to stop the practice, they haven't in the past and they ain't going to start now.

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brerrabbit585 — Wed, 21 Feb 2018 11:59:34 GMT

So long as the fees keep rolling in, ebay aren't going to care where the sellers are. Some sellers claim that ebay are missing out on fees by promoting the cheapest items but that's not the case. They no doubt believe that most people who have $X available to spend on ebay will keep buying until they've spent it all. It may be spent on one item in Australia or on ten items for 1/10th of the price from China. The total money spent is the same so their fees are the same.

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davewil1964 — Sun, 11 Mar 2018 09:48:10 GMT

Lyndal lives in Sydney, and doesn't even sell.

Care to back your defamation with some facts?

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lyndal1838 — Sun, 11 Mar 2018 10:17:14 GMT

@kolithmunasingh-8wrote:
Liar!!! you r another drop shipper from china

Can you prove that my information is wrong?

I am in Sydney and do not sell on ebay.

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k1ooo-slr-sales — Sun, 11 Mar 2018 10:25:34 GMT

my goodness lyndal, your admirer only registered on eBay on 7th March and they came to these boards within days. Sounds suss to me. Probably already a poster on another ID. Don’t think their posts will last long, tippy will be disappointed.

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k1ooo-slr-sales — Sun, 11 Mar 2018 10:34:20 GMT

你在中国有多久了？
Nǐ zài zhōngguó yǒu duōjiǔle?

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digital*ghost — Sun, 11 Mar 2018 10:45:32 GMT

@k1ooo-slr-saleswrote:
你在中国有多久了？

While the translation that came up on google was evidently correct, the articles that were displayed included:

"How long is the history of China?"

And - my favorite - "You can also tutor the Chinese girl 2: Recognize the love, affection and extramarital affairs brought by the Chinese girl" (a book By Pastor Liang Baofeng)

Sometimes I think I am too easily amused.