topic Re: postage in Buying

postage

rare1here — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 06:09:59 GMT

to all coin sellers re combined postage, i have been buy coins for a while now and the biggest problem in this section is the blatant postal profiteering and refusal to combine post i have received 1 death threat and 3 threats of home invasion from members about this i dont mind paying reasonable post rate and small fee for each additional item some sellers are demanding ridiculase rates[up to 15.00] and wont combine post than send item in standard envlope plus 60c postage a good example say post is 2.00 for post and handling and i buy 10 coins total 20.00 and some sellers actually expect you to pay that if you say that you wont pay this they put you into dispute to cover their on disgusting behahavuor so to all you postal profiteers up yours to all buyers if you come across this and still want coins demand that they send coins packaged and post separetly that buggers them up a bit as they cant refuse as it is your right

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patchoo78 — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:30:01 GMT

Actually, there is nowhere that says sellers have to combine postage.. It is not the buyers right, it is up to the seller if they choose to or not..

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annies_fancy_dress — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 02:34:25 GMT

Why don't you just buy one a day and pay separately, if it bothers you so much.

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2106greencat — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 02:46:00 GMT

True patch, and OP, if I were receiving death threats I would be going to the police.

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karenferndale — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 04:01:43 GMT

"annies_fancy=dress" Why don't you just buy one a day and pay separately, if it bothers you so much.

That would defeat the point of combined postage. A seller might not be obliged to do combined postage, but if he doesn't his sales will drop.

I work in a distribution company and if multiple orders are going to same company, we charge one delivery fee.

In fact if you bought multiple items from the same ebay seller and he tried to charge you separate freight for each, when you can be sure he will send them altogether, he would probably violate ebays postage laws about excessive postage charges.

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davewil1964 — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 04:44:19 GMT

The point, Karen, is that the seller is charging the aggregated postage.

What you, and most sellers, do is irrelevant.

Paying for each item separately forces the seller to send them separately or they won't have Paypal protection.

Charging separate freight for each item is NOT an eBay violation, however immoral it may be.

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*bad*angel* — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:46:58 GMT

No, no violation there. When a buyer bids or buys they agree to the costs as shown on the listing. No seller is under any obligation to discount postage even if they do combine the items in one parcel.

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karenferndale — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:22:05 GMT

Stand me corrected then.

As a buyer though, if I bought multiple items from same seller and he sent all in one package, but charged me postage x 5, I would never buy from that seller again.

Whether ebay allows it or not, the seller is gouging his customers on postage and making a handsome profit from postage alone.

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*bad*angel* — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:25:15 GMT

Yes I agree, however it's still not a violaton of policy. This is why it's important to check on postage discounts (not combining postage, those are two different things) before placing bids or buying.

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koalablue12 — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:32:28 GMT

Here's a quirky scenario - buyer purchases 5 x single items - asks for 'combined etc' - Seller agrees - buyer pays paypal on combined invoice - parcel arrives - only 4 items in parcel - OMG - WTF does paypal do??? how can you prove how many/few were posted in ONE parcel ? 😮

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the3coopers — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:19:29 GMT

if you say that you wont pay this they put you into dispute to cover their on disgusting behahavuor

Of course - because the person who is breaching policy is the BUYER, not the seller.

Why are you making purchases and then demanding postage discounts? The seller sets the prices... the buyer chooses to accept them or not. A buyer who acts in this way is breaking the eBay policy for Unwelcome and Malicious Buying...

http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/policies/unwelcome-buying.html

"Problems" like this one are not actually problems. Buyers have numerous sellers and items and listings to choose from. They are free to choose whatever seller they prefer. If the seller quotes high postage prices, or doesn't offer combined postage discounts, or uses text of a colour that you find offensive then do the simple thing... DON'T BID.

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kopenhagen5 — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:26:29 GMT

I purchase many numismatic items on ebay and other sites.

The first thing I do with a new seller, is to ask them if they combine items for 1 postage cost.

I suggest you simply make this your new way ebaying.;-)

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karenferndale — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:04:51 GMT

Good idea kopenhagen. I have dont that before. Messaged a seller first and asked if I bought two items, do they reduce postage on second. They were quite willing to do it :).

To the OP. While I definitely think a seller would be postage gouging if they send all items together but charged you separate postages for each item, you did buy the items separately.

You should have messaged seller before committing to buy and found out if he would combine postage. If he was not willing, there are always more sellers willing to. This is true of anywhere, not just ebay.

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*bad*angel* — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:22:14 GMT

As I mentioned earlier, it's important to ask regarding discounted postage, not just combined. They do not mean the same thing and the difference is where many members come unstuck.

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digital*ghost — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:26:42 GMT

Here's a quirky scenario - buyer purchases 5 x single items - asks for 'combined etc' - Seller agrees - buyer pays paypal on combined invoice - parcel arrives - only 4 items in parcel - OMG - WTF does paypal do??? how can you prove how many/few were posted in ONE parcel ? 😮

There is an option via PayPal where either the package is empty or does not contain the total quantity purchased.

I don't know exactly what information etc each party needs to give PayPal, and I haven't seen any recent posts etc about such occurences, but in the past I have read a stories on the board - one concerned a seller who had a dispute opened against them (fraudulently) and lost (they knew the buyer's claim was fraudulent because they were re-selling the items they scammed), another from a buyer who received an empty package and had to jump through many hoops (including filing a police report, I think) before PayPal eventually decided in their favour.

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lyndal1838 — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:13:04 GMT

Digital, I can tell you what happens if you claim Item Not As Described for a multiple item parcel....paypal insists on refunding for the whole parcel!!!!

I received a large parcel from the UK with several pieces of pottery...one was broken. I opened a dispute because the seller was away on holidays and I needed to buy time for him to get back on line. Unfortunately I needed to escalate so paypal took over. As soon as the seller was back on line he found out what was going on and he offered a refund for the broken item, which I was happy to accept....BUT paypal insisted that he had to refund the lot, despite the fact that we both kept on saying that only one item was broken.

Of course I was supposed to send everything back. We just let the dispute time out and he refunded the amount we had agreed on. Thankfully he was a great seller, but it could have been very different if he was not willing to refund.

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digital*ghost — Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:22:43 GMT

Thanks lyndal, I think I remember that - can I just ask what the selected reason for the dispute was? When you open INAD disputes, there's a few choices, with one being along the lines "the package is empty or order incomplete".

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resellerdownsouth — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:41:33 GMT

Might be an old thread ...

but this character rare1here is now posting NEGATIVE feedback on me, when he hasn't even paid for any coins.

He REFUSED to pay, and now thinks he has the right to post slanderous comments etc.

Ebay remove it, and puts it right back there again ...

DON'T DEAL WITH THIS CHARACTER AT ALL ....

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resellerdownsouth — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:45:05 GMT

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*tippy*toes* — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:46:55 GMT

@resellerdownsouth wrote:
Might be an old thread ...

but this character rare1here is now posting NEGATIVE feedback on me, when he hasn't even paid for any coins.

He REFUSED to pay, and now thinks he has the right to post slanderous comments etc.

Ebay remove it, and puts it right back there again ...

DON'T DEAL WITH THIS CHARACTER AT ALL ....

Yes, it is an old thread, you should have posted a new topic as your issue really doesn't have anything to do with postage.

First up, you can't name and shame. The mods will remove the name when they see it.

Did you open and close an unpaid item dispute for the buyer not paying? If you did, contact eBay (by phone) and they will remove the feedback. If you cancelled, it's unlikely they will remove it, but you can still try. If you neither cancelled or opened an unpaid dispute, open an unpaid dispute immediately. Then close it 4 days later. Then call eBay and tell them to remove the negative feedback and the associated defects.