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    <title>topic Re: ATO Request for Data in Selling</title>
    <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794980#M105143</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes Hamsy what you say is correct according to my tax accountant.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you are under $75K in total sales then you dont need to worry about GST at all. That's where we are.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Our accountatnt makes sure we remain under the income tax free thresholds (posted above) so we don't end up having to pay income tax either. So no worries there either.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But none of this takes away the requirement to declare ALL your income. There is a very fine line between hobby and a business venture. ATO would judge that based on your activities not you. And they will likely lean towards business venture. Therefore hobby is very difficult for you to prove to them. If it even smells like you are hoping to make profit then it would be judged a business activity, regardless of if/not you have an ABN.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you are working a 9-5 job then every dollar&amp;nbsp;from ZERO income in your selling activities will be added onto this and will be subject to tax.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If selling is your only income activity then as long as your taxable income remains under the thresholds (posted above) then you will have to pay ZERO income tax.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's pretty easy for a smart tax accountant to legally keep you under the thresholds if you are already under the GST threshold. So IMHO you are better off to declare all your sales income and still pay ZERO tax than to hide it from them and be possibly caught out later on. If you don't declare it and they find out then they will&amp;nbsp;likely impose penalties&amp;nbsp;as well as ask for any back taxes due and you will then be on their radar for the future as well. You don't want that as they will never let go.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Our accountant told us its very unlikely they will come after us in any way (as in desktop audit) as we are only small fry and not subject to tax anyway. But the fact remains that they can still do it. And we are still legally obliged to declare all sales income.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So if ebay report you to the ATO for being over the $10K threshold then they will know about you. If they can't match this up with a tax return from you then you are likely to get a please explain letter, especially if you already have a 9-5 job on file as well. Our tax accountant advised us that it is always the wise approach to declare ALL income and then he will make sure (by legal means) that no tax is payable. That's why we pay him. Then everything is open and above board and you give them no reason to be on your case.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So I would urge anyone who sells on here to speak to a good tax accountant about all this, especially if you have received one of these emails recently and have not declared any sales income to the ATO. I don't want to hear about any of my selling colleagues getting into hot water with the ATO.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2015 04:33:06 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>clarry100</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-05-16T04:33:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794076#M104991</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This is the first time we have received one of these since we have been trading on eBay.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Anyone else?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG border="0" title="ATO Data" alt="ATO Data" src="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/74360i654DBC36021CDB99/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&amp;amp;px=-1" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 01:11:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794076#M104991</guid>
      <dc:creator>clarry100</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T01:11:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794078#M104992</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes.&amp;nbsp; Just got some email advices - first time I have received advices too.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 01:15:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794078#M104992</guid>
      <dc:creator>thecatspjs</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T01:15:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794081#M104993</link>
      <description>yep just got one too, hope everyone is declaring their income LOL</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 01:19:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794081#M104993</guid>
      <dc:creator>harley_babes_hoard</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T01:19:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794082#M104994</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I remember this came up a year or two ago when the ATO released its "annual hit list" to news and media.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;They were "going after" people selling online at places such as eBay. &amp;nbsp;Looks like they are doing it.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 01:21:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794082#M104994</guid>
      <dc:creator>transport-posters</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T01:21:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794084#M104995</link>
      <description>I also received the email, although nothing new for me. I have received this email every year at tax time. As long as you are declaring all your income you will be fine. If total sales including post are above $75.000 you also need to be registered for GST. I declare all my Ebay income to the ATO so at tax time they check what Ebay report matches what I have declared on my tax return. It's the thresholds that changed every year. Last year the ATO ask for anyone with sales above $20,000 the year before it was $40,000</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 01:25:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794084#M104995</guid>
      <dc:creator>gamesandconsolesgalore</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T01:25:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794088#M104997</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/506315"&gt;@gamesandconsolesgalore&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;I also received the email, although nothing new for me. I have received this email every year at tax time. As long as you are declaring all your income you will be fine. If total sales including post are above $75.000 you also need to be registered for GST. I declare all my Ebay income to the ATO so at tax time they check what Ebay report matches what I have declared on my tax return&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;How unusual that you have received this type of email from eBay in previous years.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I never have and would have expected to get that advice in previous years if eBay was sending out to sellers ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Edit:&amp;nbsp; actually I do recall an email or notice board announcement re tax from eBay sometime over the last couple of years, but I am fairly sure it was not in this years format.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 01:30:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794088#M104997</guid>
      <dc:creator>thecatspjs</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T01:30:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794089#M104998</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I got it too, and it would seem to be a retroactive request, since it states it's for the tax year ending in June 2014 (so the 2013 - 2014 tax year, and the 2014-2015 tax year still has around 6 weeks to go). I'm not sure if the lower threshold ($10k) is new or not, I guess so - it used to be $20k at any rate, but if it is new, that could explain the request for older records.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't expect anything to come of it, personally, as all eBay income etc was declared.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 01:30:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794089#M104998</guid>
      <dc:creator>digital*ghost</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T01:30:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794091#M104999</link>
      <description>well I assume it is happening now because the May deadline has now past for reporting the 2013-2014 income</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 01:35:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794091#M104999</guid>
      <dc:creator>harley_babes_hoard</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T01:35:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794092#M105000</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;lol, yes, got one too.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thats kind of funny really, the $10K threshold been reduced from $20K n $40K,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;like they think they r chasing money.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Should have been the other way around, years ago $10K n now should be $40K.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Typical public servants thinking that peeps r getting massive profits from ebay.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;They will be dissapointed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 01:39:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794092#M105000</guid>
      <dc:creator>toysandthings12</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T01:39:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794096#M105002</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;same here ony difference from all other years is a more detailed list ebay sent us instead of just saying ato requested takings.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 01:40:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794096#M105002</guid>
      <dc:creator>joethenuts</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T01:40:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794097#M105003</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes got one... my first time.... I wonder if there will be some worried people?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 01:40:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794097#M105003</guid>
      <dc:creator>**melonbellies**</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T01:40:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794098#M105004</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/829685"&gt;@harley_babes_hoard&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;well I assume it is happening now because the May deadline has now past for reporting the 2013-2014 income&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you use a registered accountant you have untill June 5th to lodge your taxation details for 2013-2014 financial year, so still time if people have not done so.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 01:41:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794098#M105004</guid>
      <dc:creator>chameleon54</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T01:41:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794102#M105006</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;my accountant said May 15th&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The due date of your tax return depends on how you lodge, and whether you have any unlodged tax returns.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The normal (early) due date is &lt;STRONG&gt;31 October 2014&lt;/STRONG&gt;. This applies to anybody who lodges their own tax return.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you lodge through a registered tax agent, you get an extension to the due date. The extension is usually until 15 May 2015, but an earlier date of 31 March 2015 applies to a small number high income taxpayers&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 01:46:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794102#M105006</guid>
      <dc:creator>harley_babes_hoard</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T01:46:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794104#M105008</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I still havnt done mine yet and the accountant has advised June 5th, so I hope shes right. Its possible the date is different depending on the class of business you run. Maybe she knows a few loopholes to extend the date, she is a specialist in small to medium sized&amp;nbsp; business and fairly highly qualified.&amp;nbsp;Some of the chain groups that have offices everywhere dont offer the&amp;nbsp;same&amp;nbsp;expertise that the specialists can provide..&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 01:53:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794104#M105008</guid>
      <dc:creator>chameleon54</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T01:53:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794106#M105009</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm a bit lost. I too received this email and am not sure how to proceed.&lt;BR /&gt;I sell things on ebay as a hobby. I don't have a business or a store. What should I be doing? How can I ensure I am doing the right thing?&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks in advance&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 01:55:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794106#M105009</guid>
      <dc:creator>vamvas123</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T01:55:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794109#M105010</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes its 15th May deadline as I understand it too. ie today.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So if anyone has not declared last tax years income and they are on the ebay report list then I would expect to get a please explain letter from the ATO shortly.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 01:57:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794109#M105010</guid>
      <dc:creator>clarry100</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T01:57:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794112#M105011</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You need to declare all sources of income to the ATO each and every tax year. No matter how small. Regardless of shop / business owner or hobbyist or whatever.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Then its up to your tax accountant to figure out how much tax you are due to pay, if any.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you have received one of these ebay emails then I suspect that your ebay sales must have crossed the $10K threshold in the tax year ending 30th June 2014.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you did not declare your ebay income in that tax year then I would be expecting a please explain letter from the ATO sometime soon.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 02:01:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794112#M105011</guid>
      <dc:creator>clarry100</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T02:01:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794115#M105012</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/829685"&gt;@harley_babes_hoard&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;my accountant said May 15th&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The due date of your tax return depends on how you lodge, and whether you have any unlodged tax returns.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The normal (early) due date is &lt;STRONG&gt;31 October 2014&lt;/STRONG&gt;. This applies to anybody who lodges their own tax return.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you lodge through a registered tax agent, you get an extension to the due date. The extension is usually until 15 May 2015, but an earlier date of 31 March 2015 applies to a small number high income taxpayers&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just phoned the accountant and she advised the 15th of May is the standard date, but she was able to lodge a few weeks later in certain circumstances so it sounds like it depends on your accountant.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 02:03:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794115#M105012</guid>
      <dc:creator>chameleon54</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T02:03:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794118#M105014</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The amount hasn't changed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It was also $10,00 in last year's letter and it applied to turnover from July 2011.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG border="0" title="ebay_ato_2014.JPG" alt="ebay_ato_2014.JPG" src="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/74363i6619CDE757DE0B1F/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&amp;amp;px=-1" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 02:05:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794118#M105014</guid>
      <dc:creator>bigbrickshop</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T02:05:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ATO Request for Data</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794119#M105015</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That would be why these messages are being sent out today as it is the gazetted final day for lodgement.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 02:05:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/ATO-Request-for-Data/m-p/1794119#M105015</guid>
      <dc:creator>clarry100</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-05-15T02:05:57Z</dc:date>
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