topic Re: UPC MPN Numbers in Selling

UPC MPN Numbers

stor.miche — Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:22:08 GMT

Anyone else going to be absolutely destroyed by this required change? Of the branded items I sell I am having absolutely no luck finding the MPN numbers?

Not sure what I am going to do.

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

heihachi_73 — Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:12:42 GMT

If it doesn't have an MPN or you can't find it, make up your own. 🙂

Hand-made items, antiques, jewellery, a vintage dress and a signed footy would most likely not have a part number associated with it, or a barcode for that matter, so I can't see how eBay could force either to be in a listing.

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

harley_babes_hoard — Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:30:06 GMT

Can you just use the barcode if they have one

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

saarzi — Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:40:20 GMT

I know its recommended.. but where does it say this is going to become required on ebay Australia?

I can see the negs rolling in - "Fake MPN number".

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

harley_babes_hoard — Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:44:44 GMT

http://sellercentre.ebay.com.au/news/product-identifiers

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

lane-ends — Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:13:57 GMT

@heihachi_73 wrote:
If it doesn't have an MPN or you can't find it, make up your own. 🙂

That could create a loophole for a not as described claim.

Though I am sure I would do the same.

Wonder if it also applies to new seconds as the often have the labels removed anyway.

i am sure there will be a lot of" what the?" posts on here come next month re this issue.

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

i-love-my-sheep — Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:00:33 GMT

Not replying to Lane, just replying via the last message.

One of my categories has that as an option in the item specifics. My rocks and stones don't come with a barcode or a number of any description. Unfortunately, Mother Nature hasn't got the grasp of modern technology yet, so she doesn't spit out bar codes from mother earth. Therefore, I leave that one blank because there's nothing I can do about it.

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

curraone — Mon, 15 Jun 2015 21:22:04 GMT

all new listings of branded items

If your item is used, or secondhand, or from nature!, it will not be compulsory.

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

clarry100 — Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:24:37 GMT

The first part (6x characters) of the 12-digit UPC barcode is the Manufacturers Code. To have one of these you need to be registered with the controlling body of these barcodes in the USA (GS1 I think it is).

I would think if you use a fake code it will be easily detectable by ebay in that they will just look up that part of the code that is supposed to be your Manufacturer Code. If that fails then your code is fake and that could in turn earn you a policy violation.

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

gec2002 — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 00:26:40 GMT

If you actually read the annocement you will see it does not apply to all categories (not Rocks)

From 30 June 2015, sellers who list branded items in new or manufacturer refurbished condition in the following categories will be required to include their item’s brand, manufacturer part number (MPN), and global trade item number (GTIN) to complete their new listings:

Baby
Books
Business & Industrial (Test, Lab, and Office Equipment)
Cameras & Photo
Cell Phones & Accessories
Clothing, Shoes & Accessories (Shoes only)
Computers/Tablets & Networking
Consumer Electronics
DVDs & Movies
eBay Motors
Health & Beauty
Home & Garden (Tools and Appliances only)
Music
Musical Instruments & Gear
Pet Supplies
Sporting Goods
Toys & Hobbies
Video Games & Consoles

As for making up barcodes the last digit is a parity check number like Credit Cards etc so its quite simple to check if they are real or not.

Also UPC 12 -digit is the US barcode we use the 13-digit EAN system.

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

saarzi — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 00:25:56 GMT

Ok.. just pointing out for others reading the thread, the MPN is required for " New and Manufacturer refurbished" items only.
Not second hand / used etc etc.

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

emerald-fairy — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 01:12:35 GMT

Well I will be up the creek no numbers as I make manufacture all my things!! Ebay is getting really weird and greedy

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

gec2002 — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 02:23:38 GMT

"Well I will be up the creek" No you won't Dresses is not one of the categories requiring numbers (See above)

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

curraone — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 02:48:58 GMT

starting 30 June this year, all new listings of branded items in New and Manufacturer refurbished condition will be required to include product identifiers

before anyone else makes a silly mistake like me - duh - if listing say a second hand book, and you don't fill in the isbn (because you are not required to) any new listings are starting to bounce if you don't use the little drop down option at the ISBN field which says DOES NOT APPLY.

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

cosmintas — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 03:44:35 GMT

Just listing a batch of comics this morning and put barcode from one comic only into required field and left ISBN blank and got two errors at top when checking listing. Cannot find a ISBN on any comic so actually typed 'does not apply' into the field where the numbers would go. There is no drop down list for me on the ISBN. The letters are light grey as I typed. Then selected 'Does not apply' from drop down list for MPN number and next stage of listing was clear without any errors or reminders about fields required etc.

Of course listing is not live yet (scheduled for tonight) so cannot tell if successful until that happens but hoping that this has fulfilled all requirements for new MPN numbers, especially when it comes to a batch of comics, books etc where there is more than one isbn or mpn.

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

aurellian — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 06:28:33 GMT

@curraone wrote:
if you don't use the little drop down option at the ISBN field which says DOES NOT APPLY.
Thanks for pointing this out.

I wonder if anyone actually searches by ISBN?

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

lane-ends — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 07:12:55 GMT

@clarry100 wrote:
The first part (6x characters) of the 12-digit UPC barcode is the Manufacturers Code. To have one of these you need to be registered with the controlling body of these barcodes in the USA (GS1 I think it is).

I would think if you use a fake code it will be easily detectable by ebay in that they will just look up that part of the code that is supposed to be your Manufacturer Code. If that fails then your code is fake and that could in turn earn you a policy violation.

I am sur eone aspect of this is to help weed out counterfeits

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

lane-ends — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 07:16:27 GMT

eg. In the area of fishing lines there are lots of fake products coming out of china, They all have the same barcode regardless size, length, colour, strength etc. having the actual code on the listing will make this obvious and undisputable. So there are items with fake barcodes out there

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

nevillesdaughter — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:19:20 GMT

@stor.miche wrote:
Anyone else going to be absolutely destroyed by this required change? Of the branded items I sell I am having absolutely no luck finding the MPN numbers?

Not sure what I am going to do.

I sell new and second hand skiwear and today I ended about 100 listing and then listed them using "Sell Similar". I now have 4 warnings about the MPN etc numbers - 3 of the items are second hand and 1 new. What confuses me is that in these relists, there were many more BNWT items but none of them are asking for numbers. I am also wondering about some of the ski suits I'm selling which didn't start out as suits but as 2 separate items that I have matched up - sometimes with 2 different manufacturers.

At this stage I'm just ognoring it all and waiting to see what (if anything) happens.

Cheers,

Marina.

Re: UPC MPN Numbers

thecatspjs — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:27:20 GMT

My expectations, based on previous performance of announcement and implementation of other eBay system changes, us that eBay will totally fluff up implementation of the new product identifier requirements.

I believe that there will be some sellers will cop full wrath of eBay via policy violations and difficulty listing items & will require a heightened level of eBay protection from eBay.

My expectation is that the eBay customer service will fail (predict 90%+) in providing any useful and appropriate advice or remedies to those that have punished inadvertently through system failures

Just saying

Advice - readers of this post google requirements - fairly basic and useful info re why this information is being sought.

TBH personally stunned eBay has not published on its site more information as to why the new requirements have been implemented and their importance in the dynamics of the online market, competition and searches.