topic Re: Automatic payment for sold items would stop npb in Selling

Automatic payment for sold items would stop npb

thewishingmagic — Wed, 09 Sep 2015 02:54:51 GMT

What if payment was made automatically by Ebay/Paypal from buyers account once item was won/sold, this would then stop all the non paying bidders?

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harley_babes_hoard — Wed, 09 Sep 2015 03:28:16 GMT

You are able to set that for your listings if you wish. I'm sure it's in your preferences somewhere.

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imastawka — Wed, 09 Sep 2015 04:02:48 GMT

Immediate payment is in your preferences, but it doesn't work for auctions

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clarry100 — Wed, 09 Sep 2015 04:17:05 GMT

Also immediate payment does not work too well for BIN items in a store.

As it forces the buyer to pay immdiately for each item.

If a buyer wants multiple items that means you get multiple transactions and each one costs you an extra 30-cents in paypal fees.

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lyndal1838 — Wed, 09 Sep 2015 05:16:39 GMT

@thewishingmagic wrote:
What if payment was made automatically by Ebay/Paypal from buyers account once item was won/sold, this would then stop all the non paying bidders?

Not a feasible option for many buyers.

I buy multiple items from some sellers spread out over several days. I would not be happy if ebay raided my funds every time and made me pay postage on every item.

Also, I have a range of accounts that are used to fund my payments....how is ebay going to know which account to use....credit card, debit card, bank account? I never hold funds in my paypal account so that is not an option.

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joethenuts — Wed, 09 Sep 2015 05:25:57 GMT

what about pick up lines mmmm most people pay on pick up ,and they have a right to inspect goods

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springyzone — Wed, 09 Sep 2015 06:48:46 GMT

Probably a better option would be for those buy it now items not to considered sold as such until the buyer paid.

That's how other sites such as Catch of the day operate.

You can put what you like in your basket but it isn't yours till paid for.

Sure, this would mean that if you went to buy something small today then again tomorrow from the same seller, you would not be getting a postage discount.

But if you bought multiple items from the same seller, there may be some facility to automatically change postage.

I do think this is probably the way ebay will go in the long run. If you want to buy it, you'll need to pay for it, with the exception of pick up items and auction.

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amber-eyed-girl — Wed, 09 Sep 2015 08:10:59 GMT

That is the way eBay is encouraging buyers to go. With the introduction of the cart. Sometimes, I cannot click on buy it now on a listing, but need to add the item to the cart.

Items there are not reserved until paid for. I actually hate that system right now, as I pay for things straight away with the very rare exception (if the system is down). With the cart, it is meant to bring all the discounts together, too, so the buyer can make "purchases" over time and get the shipping lowered. It can still be a bit buggy. Also, the risk is that items sell while you are still browsing with the seller over a few days. I would prefer to keep the options of a proper buy it now running until the cart is set up smoothly.

But the general idea of the cart seems to be what you are suggesting as the way to go forward, springyzone. Cart items over time, it adjusts for total discounts, then pay. Buyer risk if one waits too long, but no risk to the seller of non-payment.

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phorum_junkie* — Wed, 09 Sep 2015 14:19:36 GMT

Q. I am a new and inexperienced buyer.

I see a mobile phone on ebay which looks a wonderful bargain, there are only a few minutes left so I bid as I don't want to miss out.

On reflection I wonder if some of theings that were not immediately obvious to my untrained eye are a bit of a worry.

A1. Payment is automatic so all I can do is wait until it arrives and hope that I can get a refund.....eventually..., without the expense of having to return it which could, if it were from China, cost a fortune as I couldn't use AP.

A2. Payment is withn 4 days so I have time to put on my thinking cap, do a bit of research, ask friends, post on the boards and know for sure it is an out and out scam so I don't pay and don't lose my money.

In your world it would be answer 2 every time. Not a system I would like to be involved with, I would far rather spend the few seconds it takes to open and close a non payment dispute than cause anxiety to every person who was daft enough to buy from me on impulse.

Re: Automatic payment for sold items would stop npb

springyzone — Wed, 09 Sep 2015 23:14:59 GMT

PJ said in response to magic wishing who wanted a system of instant payment:

Q. I am a new and inexperienced buyer.

I see a mobile phone on ebay which looks a wonderful bargain, there are only a few minutes left so I bid as I don't want to miss out.

On reflection I wonder if some of theings that were not immediately obvious to my untrained eye are a bit of a worry.

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I'm a bit confused this morning, but wasn't magic wishing leaning more to Answer 1?

Personally, I am leaning towards answer 1, in that is someone makes an impulse buy without checking the listed details, then that's their problem.

Probably the only bit I don't agree with in A1 is that the buyer should automatically get any refund if the item isn't exactly what they want & without having to return the item. If it is as described, that should be the end of the matter. No refund.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for a fair resolution if an item is not as described or has faults not mentioned etc but otherwise, I think buyers, newbies or not, need to take on some personal responsibility for their decisions.

If they're not sure, don't buy.

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phorum_junkie* — Thu, 10 Sep 2015 10:58:09 GMT

I'm a bit confused this morning, but wasn't magic wishing leaning more to Answer 1?

Personally, I am leaning towards answer 1, in that is someone makes an impulse buy without checking the listed details, then that's their problem.

Would be nice but do you think a buyer who has been scammed for a reasonably high price item is going to continue to use ebay or is it more likely they are going to be put off for ever?

In my example I thought it was pretty clear I meant the item was not as described, that is it was not the brand advertised but a cheap Chinese knockoff, or it was a permenantly locked phone which can only be used as a doorstop.

I absolutely agree when something is as described however what if it isn't? It is notoriously difficult to prove something is counterfeit or has an invisible fault and it is only by proving that which will mean the buyer does not have to pay for a fully trackable return, not cheap in a lot of cases.

If they're not sure, don't buy.

We all agree with that but did you 'know it all' when you frst signed up for ebay? My example was of when a seller is deliberately pulling a fast one and it takes some experience to recognise some of the more sophisticated scams that appear obvious to we more experienced members.