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another Aust Post Thread!

k1ooo-slr-sales — Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:20:37 GMT

About two weeks ago I read on these boards somehwere that someone had read/heard that Aust Post were planning to not deliver mail in to new suburbs that pop up. At that time I went to the Aust Post website and asked this question and just got a reply today. Another person asked the same question around the same time.

I would have posted this on the thread that I had read back then . . . . but I can not locate that thread post.

Here is the webpage URL https://conversation.auspost.com.au/national?tool=qanda

Here are screen grabs showing my question and the other person's question as well as the Aust Post replies.

Now, off to that Aust Post website to ask about lodgement and ownership!

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

chameleon54 — Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:26:08 GMT

Just a thought on the regular and priority postage system. Maybe AP plan to send the priority paid mail by air between states as they do for most regular large letters now, and send all economy class mail by road, which is much slower ???? This is the only logical way I can see for the system to work and would account for the higher cost for the faster postage. ( yes I know we already get air at the regular price now, but this is AP we are talking about ) .

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

lyndal1838 — Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:30:01 GMT

As far as I can make out the PO plans on delivering the Priority mail 5 days a week and the Standard mail on 3 days a week.

Heaven only knows how it is going to work because I don't think the PO knows.

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

dazzledayz — Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:32:26 GMT

There is a rather unusual legal position regarding Aus Post and new suburbs (even existing ones I suppose).

I had a problem with delivery to a location in NT where the item was RTS.

Turns out that AP need approval from the local council before delivery services can occur.

Perhaps under certain circumstances said permission can also be withdrawn?

But in short, yes, there can be problems delivering to new susburbs though it is fortunately a very rare occurrence.

Usually these arrangements (permissions) are sorted out before mail deliveries are required.

If you have a customer who is experiencing difficulty receiving mail they should contact Aus Post.

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

k1ooo-slr-sales — Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:34:53 GMT

I asked the question on the Aust Post website to get a direct answer to something I had read on these boards. I thought rather than having speculation and opinion, an Aust Post answer would be more valid and would diffuse any confusion surrounding the impending changes.

It appears that at about the same time someone else asked the same thing. G'day "rowan" if you are reading this, thanks for asking AP the same question.

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

chameleon54 — Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:52:35 GMT

@lyndal1838 wrote:
As far as I can make out the PO plans on delivering the Priority mail 5 days a week and the Standard mail on 3 days a week.
Heaven only knows how it is going to work because I don't think the PO knows.

So would that mean the mail will just bank up in post offices for a couple of days just to be delivered the same way every other day. The posties are still going to have to do their rounds every day to deliver the priority mail. How on earth can wharehousing mail for a couple of days, just to deliver it the same way, save money or be cost effective ???

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

joethenuts — Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:53:00 GMT

at least they are quick to respond to your question lol

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

k1ooo-slr-sales — Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:58:52 GMT

@joethenuts wrote:
at least they are quick to respond to your question lol

yeah, 15 days!

That site is only for questions surrounding the impending changes and NOT for questions about lodgement and ownership. You'll need to ask that question elsewhere joe!

This is another screen grab of what is on the site:

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

lyndal1838 — Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:20:46 GMT

@chameleon54 wrote:
@lyndal1838 wrote:
As far as I can make out the PO plans on delivering the Priority mail 5 days a week and the Standard mail on 3 days a week.
Heaven only knows how it is going to work because I don't think the PO knows.
So would that mean the mail will just bank up in post offices for a couple of days just to be delivered the same way every other day. The posties are still going to have to do their rounds every day to deliver the priority mail. How on earth can wharehousing mail for a couple of days, just to deliver it the same way, save money or be cost effective ???

Sorry chameleon I really don't know the answer and neither it appears do most of the post Masters/Mistresses that we have spoken to.

The post offices in Sydney CBD have been sorting the mail into Standard and Priority before it is collected from them for a while now, but no-one can tell us what happens to it once it is collected from the post office.

I will get my OH to ask again as soon as he can get hold of someone who might have a clue...maybe things have become clearer since it first started.

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

tastiger1 — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 14:59:01 GMT

I agree. Is there going to be little piles of letters sitting in the post office each pile marked with a different delivery day? the idocy of the system is that the delivery man will in most cases be daily passing by the address for mail sitting in the PO. How much effort is required to stop his little motorcycle & lean off his backside to slip a letter in a box? And as already pointed out - how is this going to save/generate more money for the PO? Perhaps Malcolm has the answer?

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

lyndal1838 — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 20:06:48 GMT

I don't think it is a case of the postman being lazy. I have often seen our postman with a very full bag and we are near the end of his run.

I asked about this one day and he told me that when he sorts his run he can have as many as 3 full bags....he sets out with one bag and the rest is delivered to drop off points for him to go back and collect.

Now that they are expected to deliver small parcels as well it is even worse....they just don't have time to deliver everything.

I really can't see how putting it off is going to help in the longrun but AP seems to think it will. We shall see.

BTW I hardly think it is something that you would expect the Prime Minister to sort out. This is hardly his job.

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

cathyjoyjoy — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 20:58:55 GMT

Hahaha .......... it's started already !!!!

Perhaps Malcolm will also be able to do something about the very hot summer that is predicted ............ LOL

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

joethenuts — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 22:02:53 GMT

maybe its a way of earning more money ,lets say 10% go priority that for a start will increase $$$$ to there total, now if the normal mail becomes a lot slower. that % will prob grow. for instance if you sell mainly letters on ebay and they are getting delivered slow now ,can you imagine when the changes happen ,you might have to send your letters priority,so that it would be back to the same as know. [we could see priority go to who knows 50% . that for a start is a huge amount of money . with the deliveries the same and slower than now. [ if thats the case then thats a very smart move from aus post] + the big % increase on stamps.any business increasing there product by 30% whithout any extra costs woud be laughing.

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

heihachi_73 — Thu, 17 Sep 2015 10:08:31 GMT

When I think of Australia Post increasing prices and reducing services, it reminds me immediately of public transport in this country. Is fictional bus route 666 not making enough money? Cancel every second service of the already once-an-hour bus and finish it at 5 instead of 7, stop running it on Saturdays and Sundays and increase the ticket price threefold in order to maximise profit. Little did they know, bus route 666 was running in the red since no-one could be bothered waiting an hour if they missed it - they actually liked the service when they could use it without waiting forever, or being able to walk to their destination before the bus even got to their stop!

Maybe, like many bus companies, Australia Post simply does not get it, that increasing the prices while reducing the service levels will only have the opposite effect! Given half the chance, a rival mail delivery company would pretty much show AusPost the door on the first week if their services were up to standard. Of course, being that they're in bed with the government (insert hammer-and-sickle flag here), there is no "chance" and they remain a monopoly.

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

digital*ghost — Thu, 17 Sep 2015 10:54:50 GMT

This article claims AP are projecting the change will result in going from a $269m loss last financial year, to an $84m profit in 2017 financial year (this is, according to them, due to 80% business etc sending bulk mail at standard, not priority, while they maintain stamp services, eg the kind of mail an average household would send with normal postage stamps, will continue to cause a loss).

http://www.proprint.com.au/News/389779,accc-auspost-hikes-8216not-a-done-deal8217.aspx

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

lyndal1838 — Thu, 17 Sep 2015 10:56:13 GMT

Why do you think messenger and courier companies came into being? It was initially to provide faster services than AP could provide.

Lawyers have their own delivery system....documents are delivered by hand to a central clearing house and picked up by the other party.

Bike messengers are active in the Sydney CBD all the time delivering documents. If it is too big for a bike messenger it goes by courier.

Unfortunately Australia Post has now stuck their oar in there too and are giving couriers a bad name.

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

sky5805 — Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:44:40 GMT

Interesting how Australian Post is owned by the people of AU and set up origially for posting mail , Now its a money maker , they have no right , the AP CEO earns more than the primeminister ? this has been on Adelaide talkback over the last weeks 5AA AM

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

k1ooo-slr-sales — Thu, 17 Sep 2015 16:31:10 GMT

@sky5805 wrote:
Interesting how Australian Post is owned by the people of AU and set up origially for posting mail , Now its a money maker , they have no right , the AP CEO earns more than the primeminister ? this has been on Adelaide talkback over the last weeks 5AA AM

there are plenty of jobs that pay much more than the PMs job. Any of the CEOs of the big banks, the head of the AFL, TV personalities for example.

These figures are dated, but they show the extremes

(source: Wikipedia)

(source: The AGE)

and this one is 6 years old. Since then, he has won the gold logie, so he'd be on a lot more $ now

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

x3n0m — Thu, 17 Sep 2015 22:18:19 GMT

As the auspost CEO telegraphs the upcoming price signal virtually every corporation, government department and major business is desperately retooling so as to completely avoid auspost's upcoming letter rate .. the interesting thing about that is these same entities were and are treated to much much cheaper rates than the general public who will now be endlessly shafted so as to make up the shortfall due to the apparent clumsy and desperate fly by night accounting by the auspost CEO .. what we are seeing is the deliberate destruction of a valuable utility for Australian society ..the reason auspost had a bad year last financial year is because they comepletely bought out Quantas's 50% share in Startrack Express .. the public is being swindled by a hypnotic salesman who is not interested in preserving this public utility intact but more interested in breaking it up or better still selling it holtus boltus to his mates within the American chamber of Commerce .. anyne who thinks that privatisation or corporatisation of the Australian public's assetts and utilities is done for the greater good is brainwashed and deluded .. you arer being swindled .. now drink your kool aid little darlings ..

Re: another Aust Post Thread!

cathyjoyjoy — Fri, 18 Sep 2015 00:08:11 GMT

Always wary of "loss" amounts .......... often it's a 'loss' on their ridiculous profit projection and it's difficult to find out what the 'real' $ actually are. But I bet they aren't really losing.