topic Re: Postage in Selling

Postage

teatortay — Sat, 04 Feb 2017 07:53:40 GMT

Not been selliing for a while so can some-one please tell me how much the postage iis on the eBay satchels..500gms, 3 kilo and 5 kilo. Thank you.

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davewil1964 — Sat, 04 Feb 2017 08:39:58 GMT

$7.40, $12.05, I didn't there was one.

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queenslander-3 — Sat, 04 Feb 2017 08:48:09 GMT

5kg is $17.60

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queenslander-3 — Sat, 04 Feb 2017 08:49:39 GMT

5kg is an Australia Post Satchel Not an Ebay one

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teatortay — Sat, 04 Feb 2017 11:25:57 GMT

Thank you for the info

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curraone — Sat, 04 Feb 2017 19:49:53 GMT

NEW POSTAGE AS AT 4 OCTOBER 2016 (amended 6 Oct)

Must buy at least 20 satchels/20 boxes online at a time

With the ebay labels and click and send: you have the option to pay extra for signature on delivery.

METHOD	BUY AT PO (1 at a time)	EBAY ONLINE	CLICK AND SEND ONLINE
500g parcel	7.60	7.60	$7.60
500g satchel	8.50	7.40 + 15c = $7.55	8.25 + 25c = $8.50
3 kg satchel	13.80	12.05 + 21c = $12.26	13.45 + 35c = $13.80
1 kg box Bx1		7.40 + 1.38 = $8.78	13.45 + 1.38 = $14.83
5 kg satchel	17.60	-	17.15 + 45c = 17.60
3 kg box Bx2		12.05 + 1.75 = $13.80	15.40 + 1.75 = $17.15
5 kg box Bx4		15.75 + 2.40 = $18.15
Express 500g	10.85		10.60 + 25c = $10.85
Express 3kg	15.65		15.30 + 35c = $15.65
Express 5 kg	24.80		24.35 + 45c = $24.80

LETTERS		INTERNATIONAL
Prepaid C5 500g 229 x 162 x 20mm (buy 50 at a time $22.05 in Jan 2017 $22.95)	2.45 $2.21 $2.30
125g small 240 x 130 x 5MM	1.00
125g large 360 x 260 x 20mm	2.00
250g	3.00	$8.00
500g	5.00	$18.00
Registered post large letter add In Jan 2017	3.80+ $4.90+

Re: Postage

heihachi_73 — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 04:28:44 GMT

I still don't know why they have a hard limit of 50 concession stamps. If someone has a pensioner concession card, they should be eligible for as many concession stamps as they deem fit, not be restricted to a short supply of them like a food ration from the 1940s. 50 stamps may seem like a lot if it was a stereotypical 90 year old granny sending out the odd letter with one stamp on every envelope, but if you're mostly sending large letters with 3 or 5 stamps, they go quick smart.

Pensioners don't receive exactly 50 concession-fare trips on a bus or a train and then the driver/conductor checks a machine and says "Sorry, you used up your last concession fare yesterday, tickets will be $9.99 until the twenty-second of September when you were first issued your year's supply of concession fares."

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lyndal1838 — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 05:11:12 GMT

I think the 50 concession stamps is very generous. I doubt that the average pensioner would even use that many.

Why should the taxpayer have to fund your ebay postage costs? If you are making money from ebay I would suggest you are making a profit on the postage if you are using concession stamps....I doubt that you give your buyers the benefit of your cheaper stamps.

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heihachi_73 — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 06:37:13 GMT

Let's see... post somewhere between 10 to 25 large letters in two months, then come back next year (most games I sell require 3 stamps as they weigh around 150g, only the very few games that don't have instructions are under 125g). The concession stamps have no monetary value, but are considered to be the current base rate of a regular stamp (e.g. $1.00) even if the concession card holder only pays 60 cents per stamp.

Pensioners aren't just limited to people born in the first half of the 20th century, people with disability/carer etc. pension cards are also eligible for the concession stamps. As I said earlier, 50 stamps is a mountain load if you're only using them to send greeting cards to friends and family, but large letters are an entirely different ball game.

And yes, I have been known to refund buyers if the postage cost is less than what I originally charged, even refunding the entire postage in some cases e.g. when a Parcel Post item has been posted by someone else and went through as an untracked $2 large letter, I refund the entire postage.

Taxpayers should be worrying how much money is spent on brand new private jets given to politicians every year to replace last year's model, not to mention the completely unessential taxpayer-funded holidays, flights, cruises, hotels (which absolutely must be 5 star accommodation of course), limo chauffeurs, the limos themselves, McMansions etc. - if they already have an eight or nine figure income, why are they receiving these things for free courtesy of the Australian Public? Mr. Turnbull doesn't drive himself to work in an HQ Belmont ute.

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davewil1964 — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 06:47:12 GMT

I would have thought the point was to reduce postage for card holders for PERSONAL use, not to run a business.

Given that your competitors would be paying full freight, why do you think you should be entitled to concessional postage rates to run a business?

Seems somewhat immoral to me.

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imastawka — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 06:59:20 GMT

I've had this discussion before. I frown on people who run a business

and use concession stamps.

If they are a sometimes seller, then fair enough. But not running a business.

I make a point of not buying from them again.

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padi*0409 — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:06:46 GMT

You're not going to like this heihachi, but I'm in complete agreement with Stalks, Dave and lyndal on this one, the intention of the concession stamps is for private mail for pensioners not for business use.

You may bring up the pollies with their snouts in the trough with the benefits they rort on a regular basis, but really are you being any different, albeit you're only using 50 pensioner concession stamps a year.

Sorry, but any rort gets up my nose.

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heihachi_73 — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:38:48 GMT

If the staff at the counter didn't insist I keep using them in place of $1 stamps I would be happy to use the normal ones, not using concession stamps would make absolutely no difference to me aside from a $20 note. Maybe they should being in a clause that concession stamps can only be used one at a time on small letters up to 5mm thick, similar to the Christmas ones. The first thing they do is ask for my MyPost card and whether I want a sheet of (5) concession stamps, even though I haven't been eligible for well over six months.

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davewil1964 — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:52:40 GMT

So now it is AP staff at fault.

Guess what? You could just insist on paying the proper postage amount. And how do the AP staff know you have the concessional entitlement, unless you flash your card?

Get over yourself.

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thecatspjs — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 11:06:41 GMT

@padi*0409 wrote:
You're not going to like this heihachi, but I'm in complete agreement with Stalks, Dave and lyndal on this one, the intention of the concession stamps is for private mail for pensioners not for business use.

You may bring up the pollies with their snouts in the trough with the benefits they rort on a regular basis, but really are you being any different, albeit you're only using 50 pensioner concession stamps a year.

Sorry, but any rort gets up my nose.

The concession stamps have no such terms of use.

https://auspost.com.au/parcels-mail/stamps/concession-stamps/conditions-of-use

Bagging a seller on a concession card that is using the stamps they are entitled to use is pretty low IMO. There are limits in place.

Shame the government doesn't do more to support pensioners and other low income earners to earn a few extra bucks through their resourcefulness and effort, including selling on eBay.

Any earnings contribute to pushing many of those concession card holders that little bit closer to earnings equivalent the poverty line.

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digital*ghost — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 11:25:10 GMT

Whelp... them stamps give a visual confirmation some of the costs were subsidised, which is obviously offensive, unlike the many more "invisible" subsidies. 😉

I hope you're not getting a discount on the electricity you use to run your computer and conduct your sales, and therefore further allowing the government to subsidise your business, but if you are, you should at least be passing those savings on to your buyers, eh?

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davewil1964 — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 11:35:17 GMT

@thecatspjs wrote:
@padi*0409 wrote:
You're not going to like this heihachi, but I'm in complete agreement with Stalks, Dave and lyndal on this one, the intention of the concession stamps is for private mail for pensioners not for business use.

You may bring up the pollies with their snouts in the trough with the benefits they rort on a regular basis, but really are you being any different, albeit you're only using 50 pensioner concession stamps a year.

Sorry, but any rort gets up my nose.
The concession stamps have no such terms of use.

https://auspost.com.au/parcels-mail/stamps/concession-stamps/conditions-of-use

Bagging a seller on a concession card that is using the stamps they are entitled to use is pretty low IMO. There are limits in place.

Shame the government doesn't do more to support pensioners and other low income earners to earn a few extra bucks through their resourcefulness and effort, including selling on eBay.

Any earnings contribute to pushing many of those concession card holders that little bit closer to earnings equivalent the poverty line.

Supporting a seller who complains about not having unlimited concessional postage is very low, IMO. especially when you have noted -

There are limits in place.

Unless you consider there should be several playing fields. Or didn't actually read heihachi's whinge. Or are just having 2 bob each way.

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davewil1964 — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 11:38:51 GMT

@thecatspjs wrote:
@imastawka wrote:
I've had this discussion before. I frown on people who run a business
and use concession stamps.

If they are a sometimes seller, then fair enough. But not running a business.

I make a point of not buying from them again.
Surprise surprise.... not

Of course you frown on others accessing something they are entitled to access and / or doing the best they can to make ends meet.

Its consistent with the kind of poster you are.

Once again you have missed the point. Of a member complaining about not getting unlimited concessional postage.

I frown on disingenuity, but that doesn't stop you.

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padi*0409 — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 11:46:56 GMT

@thecatspjs wrote:

The concession stamps have no such terms of use.

https://auspost.com.au/parcels-mail/stamps/concession-stamps/conditions-of-use

Bagging a seller on a concession card that is using the stamps they are entitled to use is pretty low IMO. There are limits in place.

Shame the government doesn't do more to support pensioners and other low income earners to earn a few extra bucks through their resourcefulness and effort, including selling on eBay.

Any earnings contribute to pushing many of those concession card holders that little bit closer to earnings equivalent the poverty line.

I did not state that it was in the terms of use cats, I said that the intention for their use was for private mail and not business mail.

Please don't cherry-pick my or others posts to suit your agenda.

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thecatspjs — Mon, 06 Feb 2017 12:06:44 GMT

@padi*0409 wrote:
@thecatspjs wrote:

The concession stamps have no such terms of use.

https://auspost.com.au/parcels-mail/stamps/concession-stamps/conditions-of-use

Bagging a seller on a concession card that is using the stamps they are entitled to use is pretty low IMO. There are limits in place.

Shame the government doesn't do more to support pensioners and other low income earners to earn a few extra bucks through their resourcefulness and effort, including selling on eBay.

Any earnings contribute to pushing many of those concession card holders that little bit closer to earnings equivalent the poverty line.

I did not state that it was in the terms of use cats, I said that the intention for their use was for private mail and not business mail.

Please don't cherry-pick my or others posts to suit your agenda.

Thats your very loose interpretation of the intention.

Policy and guidelines that informs Income support mechanisms are guided by a big picture view of saftey net supports as well as general community service expectations.

Those that nit pick a few cents and dollars tend to be guided by judgemental moralistic ill placed assumptions in my experience.