topic Re: obligatory Powerseller classification in Selling

obligatory Powerseller classification

limonil — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 23:25:35 GMT

I am outraged at what ebay has done by making me a power seller with out my consent, I've phoned customer support and let them have it, I'm now considering opening another account or more and alternating between them to avoid the power seller classification, what other company disadvantages their regular uses like this, specifically not being given the option of 30 free listings.

DON'T ACCEPT THIS, phone customer support and voice your dissatisfaction.

Re: obligatory Powerseller classification

mysnailescaped — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 23:45:29 GMT

I rang them this morning & they told me that since September 22nd they are unable to remove the TRS status.

However, there is no point abusing the customer service staff. They are not to blame for the decisions of management & it is unfair to "let them have it" as you suggest. They don't get paid enough to sit there & be abused all day.

Management on the other hand deserve a kick up the backside but of course they are shielded from it by hiding behide those poor buggers on the front lines.

Anyway, I am not going to be using Ebay that much anymore so I'll just rotate what I do sell around my other ID's & not use my main one again until the TRS drops off.

Re: obligatory Powerseller classification

nouveau_retro — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 02:34:03 GMT

Basically once people have used their 30 free listings for one, two, maybe three months they'll all be powersellers... ebay giveth and ebay taketh 😉

nothings changed, just the method of delivery.

their only duty of care is to the shareholders and the stance on 'customer service' remains the same and is quite clear.

Re: obligatory Powerseller classification

beach_and_home — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 02:41:49 GMT

Did you really think that sellers would be getting free listings every month indefinitely? Remember, nothing in life is really free (including postage!!!)

Re: obligatory Powerseller classification

wickedfezplayer — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 04:42:54 GMT

oh boy, no pleasing most people.

1. lots here whinging and whining and carrying on because they cannot sell anything on eBay because of all the overseas sellers... too much garbage.... bad search results, defaults to BM and not Aussie Only etc.etc. blah blah, tears..tantrums. oh woe is me.
eBay has ruined my business, I;ll have to go on the dole....
OR

2. lots here whinging and whining and carrying on because they sell TOO MUCH on eBay and they miss out on free listings,
everything they list must be selling to reach $3,000 p.a. max. at which point the free listings cut out,
etc.etc. blah blah, tears..tantrums. oh woe is me.

eBay has grown my business to the next level up and I wanted to stay poor, with no sales, just free listings for the fun of it.

:-(

are there any sellers out there that have reached a happy medium with their eBay business?? or is any excuse to moan about eBay a good excuse?

.

LOL you crack me up 🙂 I am happy with my little Business life is good

Re: obligatory Powerseller classification

putney32 — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 05:30:04 GMT

nice to hear that, wickedfez!

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lovebeautyproductsaustralia — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 05:39:50 GMT

My business was going gray guns until ebay made these new changes, one say today a measly $2.00

Re: obligatory Powerseller classification

limonil — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 06:38:50 GMT

Let them have it (customer support) is just a figure of speech, I'm always polite but want to get the message across, my gripe is that power sellers in the US and Canada get a 20% discount on their final fee valuation, we don't in Australia, they used the campaign to increase final values fees and offered nothing in return.

Re: obligatory Powerseller classification

limonil — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 06:41:46 GMT

And we weren't getting free listings, they just moved the fee into the final fee valuation and then some, it's gone from something around 6% to nearly 8%, but now powersellers are paying a listing fee on top.

Re: obligatory Powerseller classification

straybooksoz — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 07:23:44 GMT

Basically once people have used their 30 free listings for one, two, maybe three months they'll all be powersellers... ebay giveth and ebay taketh 😉

nothings changed, just the method of delivery.

their only duty of care is to the shareholders and the stance on 'customer service' remains the same and is quite clear.

How do you work that out?

If they sell everything, for an average of at least $US25, then in 3 months they will be nudging PS status. Otherwise, not.

Re: obligatory Powerseller classification

mysnailescaped — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 08:08:31 GMT

are there any sellers out there that have reached a happy medium with their eBay business?? or is any excuse to moan about eBay a good excuse?

Yep, we're making a motza alright. US$3000 over a year and 100 items sold works out to a whole $8.21 per day if we sell one item every 3.65 days. Of course that's not taking out the FVF & Paypal fees which brings us back to roughly $7.28 per day.

Oops nearly forgot, now that we are making so much money & are top rated sellers Ebay are also charging us another $109.00 in listing fees for those 100 sales which now brings us down to $6.98 per day.

Whoopee, we sure are making a lot of money on our Ebay "business", think I'll retire & take a cruise around the Mediterranean this year.

The figures I have quoted may not be exact but they are close enough.

However, it's good to see that some people think that just because we are making a huge $6.98 per day that we are doing extremely well. Wall Street here we come.

Re: obligatory Powerseller classification

phorum_junkie* — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 09:14:29 GMT

There is a very simple solution to the OPs problem. They just need to make sure they get enough negs, low DSRs and policy violations to mean they lose their PS status 😉

I can't get the free listings on my main selling id so for second hand, auction items I will list up to 30 them on another id.

Re: obligatory Powerseller classification

oldstan0 — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 09:27:23 GMT

are there any sellers out there that have reached a happy medium with their eBay business?? or is any excuse to moan about eBay a good excuse?

Yep, we're making a motza alright. US$3000 over a year and 100 items sold works out to a whole $8.21 per day if we sell one item every 3.65 days. Of course that's not taking out the FVF & Paypal fees which brings us back to roughly $7.28 per day.

Oops nearly forgot, now that we are making so much money & are top rated sellers Ebay are also charging us another $109.00 in listing fees for those 100 sales which now brings us down to $6.98 per day.

Whoopee, we sure are making a lot of money on our Ebay "business", think I'll retire & take a cruise around the Mediterranean this year.

The figures I have quoted may not be exact but they are close enough.

However, it's good to see that some people think that just because we are making a huge $6.98 per day that we are doing extremely well. Wall Street here we come.

THANKS SNAIL, you have put this matter in the right context.
You forgot to mention the non-selling item fees that we don't get free anymore now that we have achieved the highest ebay seller status ......yeeeeh...

Re: obligatory Powerseller classification

oldstan0 — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 09:32:23 GMT

There is a very simple solution to the OPs problem. They just need to make sure they get enough negs, low DSRs and policy violations to mean they lose their PS status 😉

I can't get the free listings on my main selling id so for second hand, auction items I will list up to 30 them on another id.

Hi junkie, I had warnings about my low DSR's & still got PS status.
Does not work like that anymore, surprise me if you don't get PS status on your other ID.
Once a PS, always a PS..........

Re: obligatory Powerseller classification

sexy*harley*chick — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:00:22 GMT

are there any sellers out there that have reached a happy medium with their eBay business??

Me me me, im happy 🙂

I worked very hard to become a PS, it was one thing I had wanted to acheive on ebay, I would almost get there but not quite, so listed more and more items, then got there, but never stayed there very long, only ever lasted the 3 months then sales slumped again and kept on losing it.

Ive had PS this time for well it must be over 2 years now, never lost it, ive kept it all this time, and i love it, its a great acheivment, im proud to be a PS 🙂

Dont knock it, just feel good that you have finally got there.

Open another account to sell things for free if thats what you want to do, or you can always sell somewhere else that wont give you PS status, as you just wont sell enough anyway lol

Re: obligatory Powerseller classification

jillywinkle — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:04:23 GMT

"think I'll retire & take a cruise around the Mediterranean this year." by snail

:^O:^O:^O:^O

thanks for the laugh snail...B-)

Re: obligatory Powerseller classification

jillywinkle — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:08:03 GMT

oh yeah...and it seems that PS status and badges are being handed out left right and centre, going by bewildered sellers messages I have read tonight in other threads...being a PS.......or having the dumb badge/ribbon..
means zippadeedoodaa diddly squat...nada

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putney32 — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:29:27 GMT

oh yeah...and it seems that PS status and badges are being handed out left right and centre, going by bewildered sellers messages I have read tonight in other threads...being a PS.......or having the dumb badge/ribbon..
means zippadeedoodaa diddly squat...nada

not quite, jilly, it means that people who were NOT making the sales 2 or 3 months ago, with the encouragement to list more, and list above the silly .99c threashold are MAKING SALES, yes, buyers are FINDING THEIR LISTINGS and buying them!! suddenly they are going from casual no-bodies, to TRS and ps.. I.E. making at least 100 sales a year, ok so I guess some want more than $3,000 p.a.... fine, but at least they are on their way.
I never sell anything over about $50 but I still manage around $10,000 pa without too much effort.

so, the new logo may mean zippadeedooda diddly squat to you, but it DOES MEAN other sellers are managing to find those elusive (to you) buyers.

Re: obligatory Powerseller classification

mysnailescaped — Sun, 23 Oct 2011 00:21:07 GMT

Me me me, im happy 🙂

I worked very hard to become a PS, it was one thing I had wanted to acheive on ebay, I would almost get there but not quite, so listed more and more items, then got there, but never stayed there very long, only ever lasted the 3 months then sales slumped again and kept on losing it.

Ive had PS this time for well it must be over 2 years now, never lost it, ive kept it all this time, and i love it, its a great acheivment, im proud to be a PS 🙂

Dont knock it, just feel good that you have finally got there.

Open another account to sell things for free if thats what you want to do, or you can always sell somewhere else that wont give you PS status, as you just wont sell enough anyway lol[/quote]

I've already got other accounts so I'll just rotate around them so I stay under the 100 transactions pa. on each one.

I already had power seller status imposed upon two of my IDs a couple of years ago but I had it removed, we used to have a choice, you chose to keep yours I chose not to. What I don't like is not having the choice.

P.S. I already sell elsewhere & am doing white well, it's just a matter of finding the right venue to match the items you are selling. I will keep selling a few things here but there are other sites where some items do a lot better than here.

So your comment about "you won't sell enough anyway" is way off base although you are probably thinking of QS, in which case I totally agree with you.

Re: obligatory Powerseller classification

syrupsmummy — Sun, 23 Oct 2011 01:10:51 GMT

When I was qualified as a PowerSeller nearly 2 years ago after Christmas time I felt I did archive something. I think it was US$3,000 for 3 months to be a bonze PowerSeller not 12 months that time. US$1.00 was about AU$1.20 that time. It wasn't easy.

Now the sense of achievement is lost because it's so easy to be a bonze PowerSeller. And there in no PowerSeller icon visible to buyers. It's taken over by Top-rated seller badge which not all powersellers can get.

I believe that people don't want to be a PowerSeller because PowerSeller can't get 30 free listings. Other than that there is no disadvantage being a PowerSeller since the PowerSeller icon disappeared buyer can't tell if you are PowerSeller or not.

I consider this 30 free listings as eBay free trial for new sellers. They won't get charged for non sales till they get used to selling and sell over 100 items and over $3,000 total per year. When new seller achieve that they get graduated from free trial course.

And if it's really important to list free, anybody can create more than one IDs to sell. There is no limit how many ID one person can has.