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Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

fitzroy14 — Sat, 18 May 2013 07:14:44 GMT

Warning dont buy the Rainbow Rose Seeds that a few sellers have. The are fake, dont waste your money.

For one thing hybrid Roses will not come true from seed. Thats how we get new colours in Roses. If you grow any Roses from seeds (except species) you could have any colour and even poor quality plant and flower.

The Rainbow Rose, you will see the flower on the seller page, is multi-coloured. The reason its done by splitting the stem and placing in water with dye.

Search the interent and will see a number of articles about the Rainbow Rose. I wish E-bay would act and delete these listings. I have a sent number of warning to E-bay over a week ago but so far no action on their side.

Be warned buyers, there are fake item on E-bay.

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

not_an_eloi — Sat, 18 May 2013 07:47:35 GMT

person would 'ave to be low in intellect to fall for that scam. lol.

fairly sure that some florists use the same technique, to get the brown rose effect

for weddin' bouquets.

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

fitzroy14 — Sat, 18 May 2013 08:24:50 GMT

I agree.

But recent sale, 16 bids for 50 Rainbow Rose seeds went for $13.50 US.

The buyer will get a big suprise in a year or two, once they flower. Maybe the seller by then will make their money and disappear?

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

nonny_muss — Sat, 18 May 2013 10:45:19 GMT

Thanks for that, I did wonder how they do it, but only vaguely interested since I remember from biology class many years ago that there was lots of research going on to create blue roses. I figured that if it was that hard to create a blue rose, I wasn't going to get rainbow ones from Hong Kong for $2.75!

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

fitzroy14 — Sat, 18 May 2013 12:46:58 GMT

Yes the HongKong $2.75, see they have sold 228 items, nice profit of $627.

Wonder how many more buyers will be ripped off?

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

i-once-was-bump — Sat, 18 May 2013 13:51:49 GMT

One seller has 100 seeds for $1.87 and free postage.

I am tempted to buy some just to see what I do get in 2 or 3 years, probably a nice crop of privet or lantana or if I am really lucky a field of bindi-eye.

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

mindtoobusy — Sat, 18 May 2013 14:12:36 GMT

LOL @ Bump!!! Goodness 100 seeds for $1.87 - Bargain price - could be anything :^O

What I don't understand is how they get through Customs. I would have thought they would be an item that couldn't be brought into the country.

I have some memory of there being something on the threads ages ago about these seeds and people were reporting them.

I previously didn't even know you could grow a rose from seed - I can easily kill of ones I've bought from nurseries, so not sure how I would go with seeds. I mean first of all you have to plant them - and that's probably where I would fail to begin with.

Hope lots of people report them and ebay get around to doing something sometime - who knows - miracles do happen!!!

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

fitzroy14 — Sat, 18 May 2013 14:27:56 GMT

If they are Rose seeds, you will get a Rose, but it could be any colour and also be of poor quality.

Why waste your money, just go to your friend who has Roses growing and collect the seeds yourself.

Why waste your time and effort to grow a Rose from seed. You would be better to take some cutting in winter.

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

fitzroy14 — Sat, 18 May 2013 14:31:54 GMT

Many seeds are allowed into Australia. Certain plants are banned due to they may bring into the country diseases.

The trouble is by the time the buyer grows their Rose seeds and they flower in a couple of years. The buyer have made off with hundreds or thousands of dollars. They seller will just disappear.

Come on E-bay, do something about this fake item!

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

maranock — Sat, 18 May 2013 20:44:49 GMT

I also get sick of all the scam seed listings but there is nothing you can do about them. It is such a shame that so many people fall for them, especially beginner gardeners. The roses are fairly obvious but there is also a seller that always photoshops the pictures and gives a fake name to their seeds which are often NOT rare, then sells them for over the top prices. Luckily they style of listing is a give-away to me so I can see not to look at the listing straight away.

Giving new, made-up names to seeds muddies the waters and leads to draconian seed laws like those passing in the UK at the moment.

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

fitzroy14 — Sat, 18 May 2013 22:54:59 GMT

I know how to make easy money on E-Bay.

This winter I will go around to friends and collect all the Rose seeds I can get.

I will make a listing on E-bay for a Blue Rose. Next photoshop some Rose images to look blue. Sell the seeds to any stupid buyer.

I will be safe as E-bay does not care that it is fake. The buyer will try to grow the seeds, some will fail. As it will take 2 to 3 years before they flower. Then I will close my account and make off with thousand of dollars of profit.

Dont anyone take my idea!!

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

i-once-was-bump — Sun, 19 May 2013 00:27:15 GMT

Have you done your listing yet?

I would love to buy some blue rose seeds.

I suppose with the rainbow rose seeds you will get a bag full of dyed rose seeds in the colours of the rainbow.

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

fitzroy14 — Sun, 19 May 2013 01:34:00 GMT

Will do the listing soon.

Because the Blue flowering Rose is rare, seeds are very expensive. I may have to set my price at 1 seed for $2 each. How many would you like to buy, hahaha.

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

go-tazz — Sun, 19 May 2013 05:50:45 GMT

Both sellers have probably being conned by one of their suppliers and would have just being told that these where real.

Trying to convince those sellers could be a problem as they can be just as gullible as others.

Earlier this year I asked a Chinese seller why would I want to buy one golf tee from them for $1 when I could buy 50 tees for $1.50

They finally came back with that their supplier stated what they should sell them for.

Two weeks later I asked if they had sold any yet and they pulled the listing,:^O

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

steen1equestrianriding2 — Sun, 19 May 2013 06:11:30 GMT

person would 'ave to be low in intellect to fall for that scam. lol.

fairly sure that some florists use the same technique, to get the brown rose effect

for weddin' bouquets.

There is a brown rose, it is called 'Julia's Rose' - once again a hybrid and not a particularly strong plant, though the flowers are beautiful. I have a couple in my garden

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

steen1equestrianriding2 — Sun, 19 May 2013 06:16:23 GMT

So far as I know, they haven't yet perfected a true blue rose, they all have a purple hue.

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

steen1equestrianriding2 — Sun, 19 May 2013 06:18:17 GMT

I have dyed white roses green but it's easy to tell a dyed rose because the veins in the flowers have a much stonger colour.

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

i-once-was-bump — Sun, 19 May 2013 06:50:12 GMT

Will do the listing soon.

Because the Blue flowering Rose is rare, seeds are very expensive. I may have to set my price at 1 seed for $2 each. How many would you like to buy, hahaha.

I might buy about 100 seeds please but I might also be a non paying bidder:^O:^O:^O:^O

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

fitzroy14 — Sun, 19 May 2013 07:42:33 GMT

Wow, sold already, such a demand.

Maybe you could be interested in buying seeds of the Black Flowering Rose? There is a seller located in Sydney selling these. Even has photos to prove it, Photoshop does a great job in making the Rose look black, haha.

Even if was true, a black Rose, growing them from seed will never come true to type. Another fake seller.

Re: Fake - Rainbow Rose seeds

fitzroy14 — Sun, 19 May 2013 07:45:25 GMT

The sellers of the Rainbow flowering Rose are located in China, Hong Kong and even America. They know what they are doing is wrong, just making some quick money.