topic Re: unfair feedback caused by PO in Selling

unfair feedback caused by PO

ivansnow19630 — Tue, 06 Mar 2018 22:53:42 GMT

Looking for help here, thanks in advance

I received a neutral feedback in the morning and it is said "Horrible post but AusPost fault"

I have been working at my account for over a year and kept 100% positive feedback until this morning.

Posted the order on time even before the promoised date however it was mis-handled by PO and faultly sent to WA (Should be sent to VIC, a town just 20km away from Mel)

We indicated the issue (Positively) and lodged the formal invetigation enquiry immediately and kept undate the buyer for the newest info. Order was placed 19th Fri, Jan, and posted on 20th SAT though we promisied to post at Mon, it was meaning to a fast delivery but failed, the item was finally delivered to PO Box at 2nd Feb after our unlimited calling.

Offered buyer three times free express for his next three purchases already but still receive a neutral feedback after a month later

Asked eBay's dedicated team to help us remove it while they won't, even they saw buyer has already said it is AusPost Fault.

Any help ot advice here? The 100 feedback means a lot to us!

Re: unfair feedback caused by PO

kopenhagen5 — Tue, 06 Mar 2018 23:04:27 GMT

You will still have 100%.

It's only negs that reduce the percentage.

You could ask the buyer if they are prepared to revise their feedback considering it was an AP fault.

If it's on this ID I can't see any neuts. Perhaps it's been removed.

Re: unfair feedback caused by PO

collect247 — Tue, 06 Mar 2018 23:37:06 GMT

The problem is that buyers blame the seller for ebay's and AP's faults and they shouldn't bloody do this as it's something that's out of the sellers control.

There should be a delete button to remove a negative or neutral feedback for this issue.

Re: unfair feedback caused by PO

*sparklz* — Tue, 06 Mar 2018 23:43:08 GMT

Call ebay and ask for a supervisor and tell them feedback is meant to be about the transaction and item and this feedback is about Aust Post and should be removed as it is nothing to do with the item or seller actions

And tracking shows it was posted on time and AP did the wrong thing.

Re: unfair feedback caused by PO

imastawka — Tue, 06 Mar 2018 23:45:02 GMT

If it's this ID, the neutral has been removed.

Re: unfair feedback caused by PO

performance_parts_clearance_centre — Tue, 06 Mar 2018 23:47:40 GMT

Next thing I'd be doing is adding that user's ID to your Blocked Bidders list.

Re: unfair feedback caused by PO

digital*ghost — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 03:36:27 GMT

@ivansnow19630wrote:

Offered buyer three times free express for his next three purchases already but still receive a neutral feedback after a month later

That is well above and beyond the call of duty, and I probably wouldn't have offered them anything - if an order is urgent and the buyer is understanding, the most I would do is re-send the current order express, on the proviso that they RTS the original when it arrives (if the order value isn't too high, anyway, and / or I trust them without question, so usually only do that for regulars).

Let me put it this way, if I was the buyer in this situation, you would have received a glowing positive for the exceptional follow-up after AP's error, sure there would have been some inconvenience involved, maybe I was hoping to receive the order much more quickly and no offers or good customer service can change that, but from where I'm sitting it was around a 1 week delay - that's nothing in the grand scheme of things.

The best thing you can do is work out what's fair and reasonable, and try not to over-compensate for what are relatively common and minor occurences, as that can make the issue seem much larger than it is, with the buyer thinking these offers deserved somehow - just provide assistance and reassure buyers that options will be available if needed.

Re: unfair feedback caused by PO

ivansnow19630 — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 05:42:07 GMT

Hi,

Thank you for your help, that neutral feedback is at my main account not this one. I have tried a lot of times to explain to buyer but still no work out.

The neutral feedback would somehow affect other potential buyers and hurt my small business..

Have to beg eBay again, pooooor me.

Re: unfair feedback caused by PO

ivansnow19630 — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 05:43:31 GMT

Thank you for your reply , Probablly won't see that option in next ten years..

Re: unfair feedback caused by PO

ivansnow19630 — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 05:46:30 GMT

Hi,

Thank you for your reply, I did this first thing in the morning (Not call but eBay chat), obviously that recepition at appeals team is not at good mood and asked me to work with buyer instead of ask them as they won't remove it.

I will have to try call them if nothing changed, feedback means a lot to me

Re: unfair feedback caused by PO

ivansnow19630 — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 05:50:30 GMT

It is an $80 item, I will try solution next time in handling similar issues, appreciate for your heads up.

While can you please offering some ideas in removing the neutral feedback as well? it still left at my reviews and eBay's appeal team won't act.

Re: unfair feedback caused by PO

springyzone — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 06:01:32 GMT

@ivansnow19630wrote:
I received a neutral feedback in the morning and it is said "Horrible post but AusPost fault"

date however it was mis-handled by PO and faultly sent to WA (Should be sent to VIC, a town just 20km away from Mel)
We indicated the issue (Positively) and lodged the formal invetigation enquiry immediately and kept undate the buyer for the newest info. Order was placed 19th Fri, Jan, and posted on 20th SAT though we promisied to post at Mon, it was meaning to a fast delivery but failed, the item was finally delivered to PO Box at 2nd Feb after our unlimited calling.

Offered buyer three times free express for his next three purchases already but still receive a neutral feedback after a month later

Asked eBay's dedicated team to help us remove it while they won't, even they saw buyer has already said it is AusPost Fault.

Any help ot advice here? The 100 feedback means a lot to us!

I think you went way over what i would expect any seller to offer, I would not expect anything except for the help with an investigation and an update.

In their situation, I probably would have given a positive or if I felt that strongly about the post, not given any feedback.

However,people approach feedback differently, as we know. It's very subjective.

My suspicion is this person feels they have to tell the 'truth' about how they felt about the overall transaction and so they have mentioned the trouble but at the same time tried to show it was not your fault.

I'm pretty sure they think this is perfectly 'fair' & there's probably not a lot you can do about it if ebay won't remove it.

If the buyer won't revise it either, don't worry too much and certainly don't offer any freebies such as express post next time etc as what you're doing is reinforcing the idea that that slow post was somehow partly your responsibility.

As a buyer, I would say it is unlikely to hurt your sales, the only thing a buyer might worry about is that postage might be a bit of a black hole in your area with Aust post, but if other buyers are commenting positively that should overcome that.

But for peace of mind, block this person from buying again, then just don't worry any more about it.

Re: unfair feedback caused by PO

davewil1964 — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 08:03:14 GMT

No reasonable buyer is going to avoid you because an unreasonable buyer left you a neutral for something they have publicly admitted is not your fault.

The neutral is really only warning unreasonable buyers, so it could well be doing you a favour.

Re: unfair feedback caused by PO

queenwaldorf — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 09:45:16 GMT

Try the chat again if possible. I got a neutral removed via chat recently when a buyer complained that I didn't respond to a message sent 2 minutes before the listing ended and she didn't get the measurements she wanted in time.

Re: unfair feedback caused by PO

brerrabbit585 — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 11:45:04 GMT

If you can't get the neutral removed, respond to it saying something like, "As you said, the problem was caused by Aust Post", just to reinforce what they said. I seriously doubt it'll stop people buying from you. I've had the odd negative from buyers who don't read listings properly or look closely at the pictures - all it did was increase my sales because buyers felt sorry for me. You'll probably notice that some of your buyers will go out of their way to leave extra nice feedback to help counteract the neutral.

You have to learn to live with the odd negative on ebay. Life isn't fair and ebay is no different. You just can't expect to get justice 100% of the time so you have to learn to cope when you don't.

Re: unfair feedback caused by PO

ivansnow19630 — Wed, 07 Mar 2018 23:32:42 GMT

Thank you for your kind suggestion, I will have to accept it and add a reply if can't get rid of it.

Appreciate for your advice.

Re: unfair feedback caused by PO

springyzone — Thu, 08 Mar 2018 00:05:00 GMT

@ivansnow19630wrote:
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I will have to accept it and add a reply if can't get rid of it.

Just make your reply the soul of reason and very factual, along the lines of you followed up but it was Aust post etc. The more reasonable you appear, the more of a dumbo the buyer looks.

Re: unfair feedback caused by PO

brerrabbit585 — Thu, 08 Mar 2018 00:38:04 GMT

And be careful not to say something that might sound like it never arrived at all, just that it was slower than usual. I'd keep the reply as short as possible but don't rush into it. You may even be best to leave it alone because the buyer gets a right of reply to your reponse and they might say something even worse. Most people never read past the first page of feedback so if you sell a bit it'll soon be out of sight.