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AP tracking on DL and C4 envelopes survey

stickerswa — Thu, 25 Oct 2018 05:54:12 GMT

Anyone else get the survey asking if you would use AP DL and C5 envelopes with tracking?

From memory it was $2.20 for the DL and $5.50 for the C4 but it didnt say if that was post included or on top of postage.

If thats with postage then it could be good !

Re: AP tracking on DL and C4 envelopes survey

stationmasterhobbies — Thu, 25 Oct 2018 06:56:09 GMT

their aclible for purvase from the Australia post store

http://www.ebaystores.com.au/australiapoststore/pages/domestic-letter-with-tracking

cost includes postage.

Re: AP tracking on DL and C4 envelopes survey

Anonymous — Thu, 25 Oct 2018 08:21:30 GMT

I got the survey too, great for book sellers....seems to good to be true!

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digital*ghost — Thu, 25 Oct 2018 09:10:45 GMT

I ended up buying some of the C5 through eBay a couple of weeks ago, just to try them out, and getting eBay to pay 5% of them meant they cost me $4.58 each, or $5.08 to send priority. I thought they'd be thick paper envelopes, but they're actually card mailers - because of that, I also bought some slightly smaller bubble mailers to put inside them, just to help protect my items a bit.

I quite like them, and hope they become a permanent product, though I still need to use parcels or the slim box mailers for things that need a touch more room to be protected well. A smaller size for large letters would be great, something that has a chance of fitting in the average letterbox.

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davewil1964 — Thu, 25 Oct 2018 10:17:45 GMT

I got the survey, but it never mentioned the specific sizes.

As a book seller, I don't think they're that flash. A DL won't fit a book, and a C4 costs almost as much as a parcel. And a parcel doesn't have a 2cm limit.

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brerrabbit585 — Thu, 25 Oct 2018 11:30:29 GMT

I assume where people have said C5 they actually mean C4.

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digital*ghost — Thu, 25 Oct 2018 11:45:27 GMT

@brerrabbit585 wrote:
I assume where people have said C5 they actually mean C4.

Yarp

I guess C4 in relation to mail subconsciously feels wrong, and therefore gets overwritten by a more innocuous alpha-numeric combo

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tazzieterror — Thu, 25 Oct 2018 11:55:48 GMT

You wouldn't want to bang on with the wrong envelope code all thread.

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brerrabbit585 — Thu, 25 Oct 2018 12:01:40 GMT

OP mentioned C4's being $5.50 but also mentioned C5 before that. I use a LOT of C5's so I'm pretty familiar with them and the fact that they cost a lot less than that.

I only commented in case someone else was led astray.

Re: AP tracking on DL and C4 envelopes survey

davewil1964 — Thu, 25 Oct 2018 12:12:08 GMT

That's why I don't think the new 'service' is so flash. Most of my letter size books go in a C5, of which I buy prepaids in 'bulk' (or at least 10 packs). I rarely use C4s so they aren't much use to me. If a book seller was selling mainly full size TPBs that might be different, but I certainly don't.

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brerrabbit585 — Thu, 25 Oct 2018 12:17:27 GMT

I stocked up on C5s before one of their price rises. I've only got about 140 left out of 600+. I didn't used to use many C4s at all but I decided to buy a pack of 50 (prepaids) and went through them in no time. Most of what I hand over the counter is prepaid (I have to ask for my mail at the counter so I never use the box) and the postmaster has got to like it and has trained a few others to use prepaids too.

Re: AP tracking on DL and C4 envelopes survey

digital*ghost — Thu, 25 Oct 2018 12:55:40 GMT

@davewil1964 wrote:
That's why I don't think the new 'service' is so flash. Most of my letter size books go in a C5, of which I buy prepaids in 'bulk' (or at least 10 packs). I rarely use C4s so they aren't much use to me. If a book seller was selling mainly full size TPBs that might be different, but I certainly don't.

Most people would be looking at it from the tracked letter vs a parcel or registered letter perspective. The pre-paid tracked ones include $100 insurance as well. That's what the appeal was for me, ultimately. A registered letter is as much as $9.20, has the tracking and insurance plus SOD (which just annoys a lot of customers), so the pre-paid tracked and insured only is half the price.

A 500g parcel with $100 insurance is as much as $10.30, so the envelope is less than half the price of that.

Re: AP tracking on DL and C4 envelopes survey

brerrabbit585 — Fri, 26 Oct 2018 00:17:57 GMT

I don't compare them to registered post but to the normal ones without tracking. If I want to register I use the prepaids that cost less than $6.50. I had a roll of rego stickers but sold them on ebay for what they cost me (during a no-fees promo) and have used the prepaids ever since.

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digital*ghost — Fri, 26 Oct 2018 00:40:29 GMT

@brerrabbit585 wrote:
I don't compare them to registered post but to the normal ones without tracking. If I want to register I use the prepaids that cost less than $6.50. I had a roll of rego stickers but sold them on ebay for what they cost me (during a no-fees promo) and have used the prepaids ever since.

Yeah, but the new pre-paids have no benefit vs untracked / unregistered if tracking isn't actually what you want or need from the service, so there's not a lot of point in comparing them to that when deciding if they'll be of use to someone.

The selling point here is tracking and proof of postage on a letter, plus insurance, without forcing SOD, at a lower price. Without eBay's discount, the bulk price on the new ones (C4), is $4.82 (and a half) per envelope, while the pre-paid registered ones are $6.21 and the only difference is SOD. If you want / need SOD, then the $1.39 extra is worth it, of course.

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brerrabbit585 — Fri, 26 Oct 2018 01:56:54 GMT

Oh, I agree with you. I was in a bit of a hurry when I wrote what I did. A lot depends on what you sell and how many people try it on, or how many genuinely go missing, which varies between sellers.

I use a few C4's but not a real lot. I think I paid $3.92 for my last lot (a batch of 50) so I decided it wasn't really worth me paying an extra dollar to get tracking and insurance that I personally don't really need. I decided to keep the money I save on those ones to put into the self-insurance kitty. There may come a day when I decide it's definitely worth paying the extra!

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glenbankloel — Fri, 26 Oct 2018 23:09:41 GMT

Wishing that C5's were available.

Am using the DL and loving them, gives us that little bit of extra security and strong, now just need the C5's and all would be right with the world.................

Ooops Oh No, sorry forgot about a few thousand other things that need fixing between, AP,Ebay,PayPal, Etsy.

Oh well as they say "small steps".

Re: AP tracking on DL and C4 envelopes survey

brerrabbit585 — Sat, 27 Oct 2018 22:50:46 GMT

I'd imagine that if the current two sizes are a success (with AP as well as with consumers) that they'll probably make them available in more sizes. If they're making money out of them it'd make sense, but whether they make money depends on how much time they spend on scanning them.