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Changing to Windows 10?

glenbankloel — Sun, 10 Nov 2019 21:14:22 GMT

Currently still got Windows 7 Pro loaded.

Can I get Windows 10 loaded easily onto my computer? Everyone seems hell bent on pushing us to buy a new computer but would like to know if there is a cheaper option? Support for Win 7 ends Jan 14th so want to start moving on this now so not under the pump.

Any information would be helpful.

We have a PC not laptop, and not interested in changing as the larger screen is better for me. Plus don't want to "travel".

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

robboscoke — Sun, 10 Nov 2019 21:55:59 GMT

A smooth transition to Window 10 will all depend on your computer stats, the age of your computer, I have a Dell and very happy with it. The size of your hard drive, a TB is good, the Ram, 16GB is best but 8GB should be ok. The processor best with at least i5 better with i7. The operating system that comes with Windows 10, named the Edge works very well with eBay. I use a 23” screen and it is very good.

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

curraone — Sun, 10 Nov 2019 22:14:24 GMT

I have resisted window 10 so far because I read I will lose all my email folders 😞

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

robboscoke — Sun, 10 Nov 2019 22:24:24 GMT

If your ISP and you are using a POP account for your emails with windows Outlook account they should just down load a repoputed your same folders and all the emails , it will take sometime if you have a lot going back several years and depending how long you ISP keeps them. Dould check with ypur ISP.

Failing that just copy all your emaisl to an external hard drive , and the upload to the Widows 10 and outlook.

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

eol-products — Sun, 10 Nov 2019 23:12:40 GMT

I have no plan on changing from windows 7 as I find it faster as the laptop I use for ebay is nearing 10 years old. I do not use it for anything else so do not see any issues regarding ebay especially as Turbolister is no longer which would struggle with older machines.

For the price of windows 10 I find it cheaper to just buy a used case or laptop with it already installed.

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

oz-e-seller — Sun, 10 Nov 2019 23:58:29 GMT

You don't have to upgrade just because support is ending. That just means no more updates. Everything will still work just the way it does now for quite some time yet. I have many computers including one running Windows XP! My advice is to just not fix what isn't broken. We have too much tech rubbish on this planet already.

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

glenbankloel — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 05:38:58 GMT

Thanks everyone for your information and comments.

Am going to contact our computer people and talk to them and see what they quote/say.

Can feel that this is going to be a loooooong debate and consideration to determine what to do.

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

glenbankloel — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 05:40:17 GMT

Not sure what our stats are for current computer don't have any information re size and ram as it was given to us.

Is there an easy way to look it up?

Thanks very much for your help.

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

shoppingbag* — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 06:29:01 GMT

That is all fine if you are not worried about hackers getting into your accounts. These people will have a field day looking for those who don't change over. You may have been very lucky so far. As for me, I am not taking the chance.

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

shoppingbag* — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 06:37:37 GMT

I have it on good authority that is it better to buy a new computer with Windows 10 than to upgrade. Components change so fast that who knows if you could be buying trouble if your old ones can't keep up. We change our computers every 5 years regardless to keep everything running smoothly. Electrical components dry out and wear out over time, so I need a reliable computer. I also keep an offline computer for other non internet related hobbies, which is where the spare goes while it still works. As the family share the one online computer this works out well for us.

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

gumleaf_goodies — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 06:42:23 GMT

@shoppingbag* wrote:
That is all fine if you are not worried about hackers getting into your accounts. These people will have a field day looking for those who don't change over. You may have been very lucky so far. As for me, I am not taking the chance.

I only just upgraded to Win 10 from XP. Never had any problems with "people looking for those who don't change over" (after at least 5 years? since Win XP was last updated). Mind you, I never click on 'sus' links, and never visit 'sus' sites. I think people get themselves all in a twist worrying about hackers.

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

gumleaf_goodies — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 06:46:30 GMT

@curraone wrote:
I have resisted window 10 so far because I read I will lose all my email folders 😞

What version are you currently using? I recently upgraded to Win 10 from Win XP and the biggest drama came from transferring my emails from the last 10 years across. (I like old emails as they are effectively my diary). Eventually I managed to get the emails to transfer and if you want to know how I did it (as it wasn't straightforward), send me a PM.

I actuially did have another issue when I upgraded as there were some software programs that wouldn't work, but I am managing without them.

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

eol-products — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 07:03:25 GMT

Earlier this year I upgraded or downgraded to an older laptop from 2011 running windows 7. I can't stand windows 10 and all the junk they think you should have. Plus solitaire is only free if you put up with all the adds.

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

davewil1964 — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 07:07:15 GMT

@gumleaf_goodies wrote:
@shoppingbag* wrote:
That is all fine if you are not worried about hackers getting into your accounts. These people will have a field day looking for those who don't change over. You may have been very lucky so far. As for me, I am not taking the chance.
I only just upgraded to Win 10 from XP. Never had any problems with "people looking for those who don't change over" (after at least 5 years? since Win XP was last updated). Mind you, I never click on 'sus' links, and never visit 'sus' sites. I think people get themselves all in a twist worrying about hackers.

Microsoft (and Google and Apple) have a vested interest in getting people to upgrade to new versions. I would be surprised if XP and 7 weren't stable platforms by the time Microsoft stopped upgrading them. And given most people panic at the thought of an unsupported operating system, I doubt there will be many hackers searching for the few using those old systems. Especially when Microsoft always release buggy software and Win 10 is probably still more vulnerable than those systems.

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

dazzledayz — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 07:14:45 GMT

Windows 10 automatically updates your O/S without allowing the option of installing later and you cannot turn it off.

It has lately developed a filthy reputation for BSOD and various other corruptions post update.

With older versions like Win 7, Vista, XP etc, if you were using older gear you could wait and see if others were having problems before installing any updates.

We're currently running Win 7 on dual boot system withs Linux as the main O/S.

I really think that unless you have a very good reason to be running Win 10 you'd be better off just switching over to Ubuntu or similar.

You'll have a much smoother user experience without having to upgrade your hardware just to cope with MS bloatware.

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

heihachi_73 — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 07:17:55 GMT

The only problem XP has online these days is a lack of modern browsers. There are already a number of sites that don't work with Firefox 52 ESR. Most of the "your PC will be hacked if you have Windows < latest" talk is just talk these days - hackers are more interested in hacking the latest phones than helping Microsoft achieve more Windows 10 sales on what is perceived as dinosaur tech these days (desktop PCs). People will most likely be saying the same thing about Windows 7 and 8/8.1 when Microsoft's support for those are discontinued as well.

As for IE6 (XP's main weakness), practically nothing works with the browser these days, either the server does a browser check and blocks it, or the browser fails to load the site due to lacking modern HTTPS support, or the browser somehow manages to get through (e.g.due to the site not using HTTPS) but then fails because it can't render modern HTML properly (Firefox 12 for Windows 2000/XP pre-SP2 is much later and still fails to render about 80% of sites for the same reasons).

Windows doesn't even have its huge desktop share advantage anymore, Linux can do just about everything these days with the exception of running certain types of (usually very expensive) proprietary/industrial software which was tied to the OS. It's no longer the Linux of twenty years ago where it was a huge deal just to get a graphical user interface that was remotely usable (never mind the lack of software at the time, lack of video card compatibility (mostly courtesy of Nvidia); even just getting the sound card working under Linux was a major thing back then).

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

imastawka — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 07:23:04 GMT

Gawd a'mighty!

All you fuddy duddies resistant to change. I don't believe it.

I've been using Win10 since it came out for free. That's 4 years people. If it was buggy, I'd have noticed by now.

I lubs it....a lot. It's the best ever.

And the browser that comes with it - Edge.

And I ain't no young 'un

My computer is old. But has had different drives and systems replaced over the years.

Your Settings>System should show you your computer's capacity.

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

eol-products — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 07:37:01 GMT

I can't tell if your serious or pulling my leg. I remember back then when i had windows 8 and was offered the free upgrade to windows 10 and I was so excited. Unfortunately it was short lived and as I mentioned went looking for a windows 7 laptop. I am sure I find windows 10 useful just can't think why at the moment.

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

imastawka — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:08:09 GMT

I'm quite serious. I don't do sarcasm unless I put in one of these

Sarcasm doesn't work very well in print.

And I hated Windows 8 and couldn't wait to get rid of it.

Re: Changing to Windows 10?

eol-products — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:40:58 GMT

I know you can most likely turn most things off with windows 10 but I dislike when it decides to update when I need to use it. Doesn't help I have a slow internet connection and this is most likely the cause of most of my frustration with it hence I like the simple windows 7.