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Selling Replica Items

rustify — Fri, 12 Oct 2012 19:30:18 GMT

Hi all I was wondering why eBay doesn't allow people to sell replica items such as Louis Vuitton, or Chanel if it is listed as replica in the description. I have seen people listing replica Louis Vuitton as LV rather than "Louis Vuitton" and starting bids at $20 rather than $200 however when I tried to list one of mine my listing was removed for a violation of the rules! I know who the member is who reported my listing so why isn't this member doing the same for every replica item on eBay?

Please help me understand this ruling and advise me on how to deal with this member. I had in no way attempted to mislead any buyers in believing my handbag was real!

Re: Selling Replica Items

putney32 — Fri, 12 Oct 2012 20:14:06 GMT

it is not allowed to sell replicas or copies of Brand names, not allowed on ebay and not allowed even at the sunday market !

it is illegal and a breach of copyright.

you can never be sure who has reported you even if you think you know, ebay wont tell you.

LV, Channel, Dior, Burberrys, Billabong, Polo and many many more Brand names are members of the eBay VERO programme and as such they, the brand copyright holders, can, and do report items to eBay and have them removed. obviously with the number of fakes around, they dont get all reported all the time but you can be sure they do get LOTS reported and they are withdrawn before you even see them.

same with the sunday markets, sure there are items there for sale that breach copyright, and ocassionally the federal police swoop on the market and confiscate, and prosecute the traders, I've seen a police raid at a market, very interesting how they swoop and close a seller down.

it is illegal in Australia to sell counterfeit goods.

Re: Selling Replica Items

rustify — Fri, 12 Oct 2012 20:27:07 GMT

I understand what you are saying with copyright laws, however if you type in louis vuitton in the search you will see many replica bags being sold! it's not hard for ebay to remove those listings. Any bag being sold for around the $30-$50 mark is a replica! No one in their right mind would believe these were the real deal.

Re: Selling Replica Items

leader-of-the-band — Fri, 12 Oct 2012 23:38:28 GMT

I understand what you are saying with copyright laws, however if you type in louis vuitton in the search you will see many replica bags being sold!

this doesn't change the fact that it is not legal.

Seriously, you seem to be trying to argue a case for being allowed to list your replica FAKE item based on the fact that others do list.

Is it worth the risk?

Re: Selling Replica Items

i-once-was-bump — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 12:47:58 GMT

I understand what you are saying with copyright laws, however if you type in louis vuitton in the search you will see many replica bags being sold! it's not hard for ebay to remove those listings. Any bag being sold for around the $30-$50 mark is a replica! No one in their right mind would believe these were the real deal.

Why not sell replica $20.00 notes? You could sell them for $10.00 that way any buyer should know they are getting a replica but they can still use it to go shopping.

Oh hang on, that is illegal just like selling fakes and forgeries of any item, even LV bags.

Replica is a very cute word to use but you want to sell fakes and forgeries so at least stop beating around the bush and say what it is you want to sell.

Re: Selling Replica Items

phorum_junkie* — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:10:52 GMT

There are ways of listing LV and Chanel items without ebay being able to pick them up automatically, that is how some sellers get away with it UNTIL they are reported. I am not about to tell you how though!

It doesn't matter how often you say something is a 'replica' it is illegal to sell it.

If you want to sell fakes then get a market stall and compete with all the other replica sellers and of course risk your stock being siezed in a raid and destroyed which won't help you pay the heavy fines.

Re: Selling Replica Items

*new2vintage — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:03:17 GMT

Can't you see that it's wrong to sell fakes - that is what replicas really are ? Try to sell them somewhere else. If ebay receive enough reports about them you'll find yourself in trouble and risk losing your membership.

Re: Selling Replica Items

*new2vintage — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:05:37 GMT

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Why not sell replica $20.00 notes? You could sell them for $10.00 that way any buyer should know they are getting a replica but they can still use it to go shopping.

Oh hang on, that is illegal just like selling fakes and forgeries of any item, even LV bags.

Replica is a very cute word to use but you want to sell fakes and forgeries so at least stop beating around the bush and say what it is you want to sell.

L:^OL Bump !

Re: Selling Replica Items

viewmont1071 — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:52:34 GMT

In some categories.. forgeries and knockoffs are the order of the day.... at least ???? lucilles guy stuff includes "VINTAGE LOOK"

I have seen so many bought then sold on as "authentic" "real" "vintage".

I guess the parent company sees no advantage in stopping others reproducing/altering their signage.

The amount of "new" vintage sign sellers has increased ramatically over the last 12 months

Bex tin sign

vincents tin sign

arnotts biscuits nostalgic sign new

"holden racing team tin sign"

'plume tin sign'

golden fleece tin

Neptune tin

Golden fleece hc sleigh

Re: Selling Replica Items

rustify — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:20:54 GMT

Using the scenario of selling fake money to buyers for lesser amounts is an absolute useless way of trying to undermine my question! How is that even a comparison???

I am not wanting to list an item and then allow that buyer to mislead a non suspecting retailer! There are numerous FAKES being sold on eBay as the real deal, my question was why not allow people with "FAKE" items ( is that better) to list them as this on eBay so that the buyer knows what they are buying rather than leading them into false beliefs that they are purchasing the real deal! As a large number of designer items being sold on eBay are!

People come to this forum for advise from existing members with experience, not to be mocked by people such as yourself! if you can't answer a question without being sarcastic then why bother?????

Re: Selling Replica Items

chuk_77 — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:15:09 GMT

the answer is because it is illegal to sell fakes

it is illegal to post fake items ( i think)

Yes many sellers do it but its just they have not been caught out yet

It makes no difference if you are upfront about them being fake, its still against ebay policy and the law. Hence others mentioning police raids at markets

Re: Selling Replica Items

kooriflag — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:41:16 GMT

You came for "advice" and were given it. This was done by existing members with experience.

You refute their advice which is why you were "mocked".

You refuse to accept the answers that you were given even though they are honest and truthful.

Why bother to ask the question if you refuse to accept the answer?????

Re: Selling Replica Items

leader-of-the-band — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:41:24 GMT

I am not wanting to list an item and then allow that buyer to mislead a non suspecting retailer! There are numerous FAKES being sold on eBay as the real deal, my question was why not allow people with "FAKE" items ( is that better) to list them as this on eBay so that the buyer knows what they are buying rather than leading them into false beliefs that they are purchasing the real deal! As a large number of designer items being sold on eBay are!

Answer) Because it is not legal to sell fakes, replicas, knockoffs, copies . . . . and the penalties for doing so are severe.

Additionally, I do not think the 'but others are doing it' defense will help anyone if they do list/sell "replicas" and get caught out and prosecuted.

Re: Selling Replica Items

putney32 — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:57:17 GMT

Using the scenario of selling fake money to buyers for lesser amounts is an absolute useless way of trying to undermine my question! How is that even a comparison???

its a comparison, because selling FAKES is illegal, fake copyright brands or fake banknotes or fake stamps, it is all illegal and can and will be dealt with by the australian police.

I am not wanting to list an item and then allow that buyer to mislead a non suspecting retailer! There are numerous FAKES being sold on eBay as the real deal, my question was why not allow people with "FAKE" items ( is that better) to list them as this on eBay so that the buyer knows what they are buying rather than leading them into false beliefs that they are purchasing the real deal! As a large number of designer items being sold on eBay are!

again, simply because some do it before they get caught doesnt make it legal.

People come to this forum for advise from existing members with experience, not to be mocked by people such as yourself! if you can't answer a question without being sarcastic then why bother?????

I am an experienced ebay member of over 13 years trading on ebay, and I did bother, in Post #1 , honestly and truthfully, without sarcasm but you seem to have not liked my reply ?

Re: Selling Replica Items

*new2vintage — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 06:26:33 GMT

You can't justify what you want to do rustify.

Some people speed although it's illegal however there are consequences just like there are on ebay.

Think about this; by telling us you want to sell fakes there are even more people now who can watch your activities and report your listings.

Re: Selling Replica Items

i-once-was-bump — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 07:47:22 GMT

I used the fake $20.00 notes to try to help you understand that no matter the item it is illegal to sell counterfeit items.

You don't seem willing to accept that not only is it not allowed on eBay but you are happy to sell fake items which THEN could be sold to some unsuspecting buyer.

I am more than happy with eBays policy on these matters because I don't believe that anyone has the right to steal someone else's designs, logos, or reputation for financial gain.

Re: Selling Replica Items

***super_nova*** — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 08:55:31 GMT

Having your item removed from eBay is the least of your worry. If LV people found your ad they could have taken you to court and would have been awarded damages.

I recall seller couple of years ago who sold Lacoste (?) shirt believing it was real; the company bought it and their solicitor send her letter of demand for $800 (or something like that). Her solicitor managed to talk it down to couple of hundreds on basis that she herself bought it on eBay believing it be genuine, but it did not fit her. Of-course, the solicitor would have to be paid.

As others said, it is actual criminal offence to sell, poses, give or post fake designer item.

That is why eBay (advertising medium) will remove any such an item if they are notified, however they cannot employ enough people to find and remove every fake out of the many millions of items listed

Re: Selling Replica Items

phorum_junkie* — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 11:29:20 GMT

I can't remember how much Lacoste wanted from the duped seller but it was a lot more than $800, it ran into thousands and it was only because her solicitor convinced them that she had done it unknowingly and was happy to provide all the details of the seller that they got the compensation reduced, from memory that was still a couple of thousand dollars.

And don't forget the seller foxy reported, that ended up with their home and storage being raided and them being arrested.

OP do you still think ebay should allow people to list illegal items?

How far do you go with that, should they allow listings of automatic guns with ammunition, the odd healthy kidney for transplant?

Re: Selling Replica Items

nanahu — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 02:08:07 GMT

Over this last year I have noticed an increasing number of replica (fake) copies of certain postage stamps being offered for sale on Ebay.

They try to explain this away as making an alternative cheaper version (COPY) of a costly or expensive original more available to Ebayers.

I have no problem with this if they are duly marked as fakes or replicas across the FRONT of the stamp IN INK !

But instead, it is pencilled (in some cases) as "Fake" across the REVERSE.

This leads the path open to unscrupulous people ( believe me, they are out there) to remove the marking on the REVERSE and on- sell the replica (COPY) as an ORIGINAL.

Unless you are an expert, you would not be able to differentiate between the two, as these so called "Replica's" are photo images of the originals, even down to the same colour and perforation.

These replica's, copies, fakes, are usually of MINT stamps which are even harder to authenticate than similar stamps which have cancellation marks ( bit harder to replicate)

I see this as blatant mis-use of Ebay where the buyer should have full confidence in the seller to offer goods of original quality, not some cheap immitation of an original unless otherwise marked as such. (ACROSS THE FACE OF THE STAMP)

Re: Selling Replica Items

pinktoedannie — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 02:19:05 GMT

It's illegal . A federal offence. Buying counterfeit products is illegal and so is selling them.

As an individual you can be fined up to $50 000.

Is it really worth it?