topic Re: zero feedback accounts in Selling

zero feedback accounts

silver-fox-bullion — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 16:18:01 GMT

hi guys

After people thoughts on selling to zero feedback accounts on auctions. I have just had 1 here that i caught that was really set alarm bells off bid on a couple of auctions here. Has pulled their bids gaven their ebay account was only about 30-40 mins old going off the time of bid 1am 17/8/2020 and the date of account been made 17/8/2020 so the account I guessing had not been fully verified by ebay yet been that long since I made an ebay account I can not even remember what checks etc are done lol. So alarm bells were ringing with this user and what interesting the buyer has NOT messaged or question the bids being pulled further justifty the bids been pulled to protect myself.

Just wondering what other peoples experiences with these types of accounts that are only less than a hour old or a couple hours ???

cheers guys.

Re: zero feedback accounts

lyndal1838 — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 19:10:34 GMT

Everyone starts with 0 feedback.....even you.

No all 0 fedback accounts are up to no good. It is not unusual for someone to open an account to be able to bid on an item.

I opened a second account for my OH to use and he placed bids within minutes.

There was no verifiation to be done with ebay and the account was attached to the paypal account that I already had.

It is quite possible that the member does not even know that you have cancelled the bids....they may not even look at the auction until it is nearing the end.

How are you protecting yourself from a new member? They don't pay so you open a NPB dispute and get your fees back and issue them with a strike....that will show them that it is not acceptable to not pay and only takes a few clicks.

I can't see any justification for your actions "to protect yourself" and you may just have turned away someone who may have been a repeat buyer.....can you afford that in this climate?

Re: zero feedback accounts

sugar249 — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 20:37:54 GMT

Your loss their gain I guess.
We all started with zero feedback, on my business account I have never had an issue with zero feedback buyers, more problems with people with 1000's or 91 feedback.
You may have lost your self a sale or a higher bid.

Re: zero feedback accounts

11dustyattic — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 22:03:44 GMT

Given the fact you're selling high risk items, gold, I believe you have every reason to be concerned. There's no way I'd be posting gold off to a zero feedback buyer. There it is. We all have our concerns and act to protect ourselves however we see fit

Re: zero feedback accounts

repentatleisure1952 — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 22:48:00 GMT

"There's no way I'd be posting gold off to a zero feedback buyer".

I feel for any buyer who has quite a few trouble free purchases but has not received any feedback.

Re: zero feedback accounts

tazzieterror — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 23:38:14 GMT

@silver-fox-bullion wrote:
hi guys

After people thoughts on selling to zero feedback accounts on auctions. I have just had 1 here that i caught that was really set alarm bells off bid on a couple of auctions here. Has pulled their bids gaven their ebay account was only about 30-40 mins old going off the time of bid 1am 17/8/2020 and the date of account been made 17/8/2020 so the account I guessing had not been fully verified by ebay yet been that long since I made an ebay account I can not even remember what checks etc are done lol. So alarm bells were ringing with this user and what interesting the buyer has NOT messaged or question the bids being pulled further justifty the bids been pulled to protect myself.

Just wondering what other peoples experiences with these types of accounts that are only less than a hour old or a couple hours ???

cheers guys.

My thoughts are that there's a lot of unjustified paranoia regarding zero feedback accounts.

If someone who hasn't used eBay before finds an item they're interested in, signs up so they can bid or buy, well then of course their account might be only minutes old when first used!

And why would you assume they haven't been verified properly if you can't remember your own sign up process?

If someone cancelled my bid on an item, I wouldn't necessarily message either so I don't see that as any kind of proof you've read it right.

I've made a number of sales this year to buyers with brand new accounts, some for items worth several hundreds of dollars—no issues at all.

Re: zero feedback accounts

*tippy*toes* — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 23:41:09 GMT

I sold an item to a 0 feedback buyer the other day. He bid on the auction and then paid immediately after.

I'm wondering why the OP cancelled the bids of that 0 feedback bidder, when there are other 0 feedback bidders still active?

Re: zero feedback accounts

springyzone — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 23:46:59 GMT

My feeling is most people would only open an ebay account if they saw something they were interested in and wanted to buy something or put in a bid for it .

That's the only reason I sign up to a lot of other websites (not auction websites, just company websites).

Ebay is advertising a fair bit on TV so it may be getting some new people browsing and signing up. So, it could be perfectly legit. Everyone has to start somewhere.

Having said that, some sales items admittedly are more high risk than others so if you feel uncomfortable about any aspect of a bid, better to cancel or block before the sale. There will be other buyers out there that you can sell to.

Re: zero feedback accounts

tazzieterror — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 23:47:44 GMT

@*tippy*toes* wrote:
I sold an item to a 0 feedback buyer the other day. He bid on the auction and then paid immediately after.

I'm wondering why the OP cancelled the bids of that 0 feedback bidder, when there are other 0 feedback bidders still active?

Spidey-sense not giving warnings on those ones, perhaps?

Re: zero feedback accounts

*tippy*toes* — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 23:54:49 GMT

Yes, especially given they are a brand new member, but already know how to retract bids...twice.

Re: zero feedback accounts

cezm — Mon, 17 Aug 2020 01:53:10 GMT

@*tippy*toes* wrote:
Yes, especially given they are a brand new member, but already know how to retract bids...twice.

Ahhh I read it as the OP had cancelled the bids because they were made within 30-40 minutes of the buyer joining

Re: zero feedback accounts

lyndal1838 — Mon, 17 Aug 2020 01:58:16 GMT

The seller did cancel some bids for that reason but he has allowed other bids to stand when the 0 feedback bidder has already retracted bids several times.

Something does not smell right about that to me.

Re: zero feedback accounts

tazzieterror — Mon, 17 Aug 2020 02:36:39 GMT

Yeah it's a little a bit of a head-scratcher. In total there have been three zero feedback bidders bidding across the three gold auctions:

Item #...784: A retracted bid & a cancelled bid; the bidder who retracted is still bidding
...513: The retracting bidder from above also bidding here
...266: The other cancelled bid, from the same bidder whose bid was cancelled in 784. Also, a third 0-FB bidder is bidding on this one.

Looks like the one who retracted was wanting to know the current max bid of the current high-bidder on 784.

Re: zero feedback accounts

*tippy*toes* — Mon, 17 Aug 2020 02:49:04 GMT

That's how I saw it too. Something smells fishy.

My 0 FB buyer only created the account that day. They bought an item that had been listed for 5 years. I was pretty chuffed about that!

Re: zero feedback accounts

padi*0409 — Mon, 17 Aug 2020 03:00:24 GMT

I wonder if the OP is aware that bullion (at the moment) is one of the listings that's prohibited under Managed Payments ????

Re: zero feedback accounts

padi*0409 — Mon, 17 Aug 2020 03:05:18 GMT

https://www.ebay.com.au/help/policies/selling-policies/managed-payments-restricted-items-policy?id=5009&st=12&pos=3&query=Managed%20payments%20restricted%20items%20policy&intent=managed%20payments.%20prohibited%20items&context=DEFAULT_BUYER

Re: zero feedback accounts

tazzieterror — Mon, 17 Aug 2020 03:18:12 GMT

I assume the fact that they've been able to list it in that category means they've not signed up to MP at this stage.

Re: zero feedback accounts

*tippy*toes* — Mon, 17 Aug 2020 03:20:59 GMT

@padi*0409 wrote:
I wonder if the OP is aware that bullion (at the moment) is one of the listings that's prohibited under Managed Payments ????

Not everyone has been switched over yet. Myself included. I had an instant payment of nearly $200 yesterday. It could have been in my bank this morning, but I have chosen to leave it in PayPal for now.

I am still shaking my head about these prohibited listings under managed payments. Like seriously, why are bullion and coins suddenly a bad thing? Not to mention all the other stuff that is suddenly no good any more.

Funny how none of the cheap Chinese carp appears on the list. Nor does pretty much everything the big box retailers on here sell. Yet another way to push out the small sellers.

Re: zero feedback accounts

tazzieterror — Mon, 17 Aug 2020 03:25:49 GMT

Also it's a little weird the listing text keeps referring to the seller in the 3rd person.

Re: zero feedback accounts

silver-fox-bullion — Mon, 17 Aug 2020 03:51:40 GMT

the seller is a company hence 3rd person lol.

@tazzieterror wrote:
Also it's a little weird the listing text keeps referring to the seller in the 3rd person.