topic Re: none payers in Selling

none payers

ragscollin — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 12:43:29 GMT

has any one had a lot of none payers? i have had more this month than the last ten years

Re: none payers

davewil1964 — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 12:46:06 GMT

No.

I have had a handfull in the last ten years, and none in the last month.

It probably comes down to what you're selling. I don't know as I won't look at your listings.

Re: none payers

ragscollin — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 12:48:42 GMT

thanks

Re: none payers

silver-fox-bullion — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 13:34:36 GMT

I have a run of them a few weeks ago when ebay had their $1 final value fee promo. But since that promo has had none.

Re: none payers

*tippy*toes* — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 13:36:34 GMT

@davewil1964 wrote:
No.

I have had a handfull in the last ten years, and none in the last month.

It probably comes down to what you're selling. I don't know as I won't look at your listings.

Books, clothes and a few coins by the looks of it. I couldn't tell you the last time I had a non payer. It would be in years. Several years at least. I have blocks that stop the serial pests, but haven't even had them trying to bid or buy, as is evident by the block log.

OP, as it appears your items are all buy it now, why not switch to immediate payment required. That stops non payers in their tracks.

Re: none payers

4channel — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 13:39:57 GMT

Perhaps *tippy*toes* a refinement on what you suggested would be only allowing users with a feedback rating of say ... 20 plus to buy. Is that still possible to do in the settings?

Re: none payers

*tippy*toes* — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 13:50:41 GMT

No, they removed that option unfortunately. I used to block people with less than 5 feedback with accounts that weren't verified. Once they verified their account, they weren't caught by that block, and that was OK. I used that setting to block guest accounts.

Often it's not low feedback buyers who don't pay. The handful that I've had over the years were all over 1,000. Of course people do get non payers with low feedback, but that wasn't my experience.

Re: none payers

sugar249 — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 20:52:08 GMT

@4channel wrote:
Perhaps *tippy*toes* a refinement on what you suggested would be only allowing users with a feedback rating of say ... 20 plus to buy. Is that still possible to do in the settings?

Best way to kill Ebay, it means no new buyers can come into the system, I have a lot of low feedback buyers on my business account, never had a problem with them, all the higher feedback ones give me the most grieve, they feel they are privilidged I think

Re: none payers

4channel — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 22:01:17 GMT

@*tippy*toes* wrote:

No, they removed that option unfortunately. I used to block people with less than 5 feedback with accounts that weren't verified. Once they verified their account, they weren't caught by that block, and that was OK. I used that setting to block guest accounts.

Often it's not low feedback buyers who don't pay. The handful that I've had over the years were all over 1,000. Of course people do get non payers with low feedback, but that wasn't my experience.

OK so it has gone now. Bit of a shame. Yes, probably right. It can also be members with more established feedback who can be slack in paying. You can never know sometimes with these things.

Re: none payers

lumikgroup — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 22:39:45 GMT

@ragscollin wrote:
has any one had a lot of none payers? i have had more this month than the last ten years

yes, a lot more now and will be even more

Is a very simple explanation - most of the listings on eBay show now "Afterpay might be available" - only way for the buyer to see if it's available is to buy the item. A lot of sales now where buyer actually buys an item and then see Afterpay is not available and will not pay or ask for cancellation

Re: none payers

pauls1239 — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 23:07:18 GMT

I agree with Lumikgroup.

Coupled with Buyer protection policies and an absolute disregard for any responsibility to read and comprehend a description it seems buyers feel like they can get away with anything.

Re: none payers

repentatleisure1952 — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 23:19:56 GMT

@lumikgroup wrote:
@ragscollin wrote:
has any one had a lot of none payers? i have had more this month than the last ten years
yes, a lot more now and will be even more
Is a very simple explanation - most of the listings on eBay show now "Afterpay might be available" - only way for the buyer to see if it's available is to buy the item. A lot of sales now where buyer actually buys an item and then see Afterpay is not available and will not pay or ask for cancellation

Afterpay availability is shown to me when I view an item without the need to purchase.

Re: none payers

jellybirddesigns — Sat, 19 Sep 2020 00:14:10 GMT

Since the items I saw were all BIN, why not just add the "Immediate Payment" requirement?

That will solve your problem 100%.

Re: none payers

*tippy*toes* — Sat, 19 Sep 2020 00:19:06 GMT

@jellybirddesigns wrote:
Since the items I saw were all BIN, why not just add the "Immediate Payment" requirement?
That will solve your problem 100%.

Gee, I wish I'd mentioned that. 😄

Re: none payers

springyzone — Sat, 19 Sep 2020 00:47:07 GMT

@*tippy*toes* wrote:
@jellybirddesigns wrote:
Since the items I saw were all BIN, why not just add the "Immediate Payment" requirement?
That will solve your problem 100%.
Gee, I wish I'd mentioned that. 😄

Things can always bear repeating though.

It's certainly what I would be doing if I were still selling with BIN.

I am just wondering if a rash of non paying bidders could be because of the recent TV ad campaign. I'm in Melbourne and at the moment, most nights you can see ads for either buying things on ebay or else for ebay plus (pushing free postage/cheaper prices etc). Maybe with lockdown and so on, the ads have persuaded more people to turn to ebay to have a look at things because a ot of stores are shut.

A lot of newbies probably don't read the terms and conditions properly or else, if they have a new account, don't feel they have anything to lose if they just don't pay.

It would be interesting to know what category of people are not paying for OP-whether a lot are new accounts or not.

Re: none payers

ragscollin — Sun, 20 Sep 2020 05:11:22 GMT

yes good thinking

Re: none payers

ragscollin — Sun, 20 Sep 2020 05:14:19 GMT

thank you all for your ideas and thoughts. it has been an eye opener