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Sellers!! Check your banking institution for International Fees for paying ebay monthly Seller fees!

minimum_56 — Mon, 25 Jun 2018 23:55:01 GMT

Hi all,
just a 'heads up' for everyone... My ebay seller fees are paid monthly via Paypal - drawn from my CBA credit card if insufficient paypal funds are available.

I was checking my CBA netbank & noticed that an 'International Fee' of 3% was charged when my seller fees (June) were paid by my credit card. I spoke to the bank and was advised that the reason an International Fee was charged was due to the fact that the payment was processed in OS (Switzerland) by ebay.

I just spoke to ebay help & was told that this is a 'current' problem that is being investigated! First time I've ever been charged an International fee for my AU ebay seller fees drawn on a AU credit card.

Ebay advised me that the fee amount will be credited to my ebay account within the next couple of days.

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sarahs_preloved_booksnbits — Tue, 26 Jun 2018 00:56:52 GMT

I found the same charge on my NAB account and contacted eBay online help just to confirm that it would be credited back. However on speaking to someone there - they just keep on saying I need to speak to my bank (where presumably I will get the same information you found out). Did you phone eBay - because that might get me a bit further - although I am not sure because the people on the phone line are also a little bit limited in the fine points of English language too!!

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clarry100 — Tue, 26 Jun 2018 01:23:51 GMT

This is due to eBay taking fees into their offshore bank account (ie Swiss) so as to avoid having to pay tax here in AU.
If this is beginning to occur you should be reporting this activity to the ACCC as they should take an interest in how tax avoidance practices by eBay are affecting AU businesses.
Pretty appealing really.

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kopenhagen5 — Tue, 26 Jun 2018 01:41:04 GMT

Assume you mean appalling. That it is.

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brerrabbit585 — Tue, 26 Jun 2018 03:54:59 GMT

Yes, let's all campaign to have ebay pay taxes in Australia so we can all add another 30% or more to our fees. The shareholders pay tax on their dividends so I have no problem with companies not paying tax.

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digital*ghost — Tue, 26 Jun 2018 04:25:54 GMT

It's not to avoid taxes, the switch is the first step in eBay setting up for the in-house payment processing.

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sarahs_preloved_booksnbits — Tue, 26 Jun 2018 05:54:04 GMT

Has eBay actually advised sellers that they will be processing the payments via an overseas merchant? I am not sure I am phrasing this correctly - but it is possibly something I might have missed in all the details of their updates.

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digital*ghost — Tue, 26 Jun 2018 09:53:21 GMT

@sarahs_preloved_booksnbits wrote:
Has eBay actually advised sellers that they will be processing the payments via an overseas merchant?

Yes, they sent out an email notification about a month or two ago - the email was exclusively about switching where fee payments are sent.

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minimum_56 — Mon, 23 Jul 2018 06:10:38 GMT

Well...it happened again!!
Another International transaction fee with CBA for payment of ebay seller fees.
According to ebay...the problem has been escalated to higher management...they've had 30 days to fix this...nada!!

This time I was told ebay couldn't credit my account with the fee total as I hadn't paid any FVF's for the month - the amount owing was for ebay shipping labels only. (Which is exactly the same situation as last month which I received a credit for the fee.)

It was done last month - why not this month too!

I'm supposed to get a $10 voucher...which is fine providing I find something to BUY on ebay within the next 30 days...
Ebay CS agrees that payment of your ebay account shouldn't attract any banking fees - but that didn't stop it happening again.

My 2 other ebay seller accounts - which are paid in exactly the same way don't attract the bank international transaction fee.

What a load of crock!!

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the_2nd_zoo — Mon, 23 Jul 2018 10:01:06 GMT

@brerrabbit585 wrote:
Yes, let's all campaign to have ebay pay taxes in Australia so we can all add another 30% or more to our fees. The shareholders pay tax on their dividends so I have no problem with companies not paying tax.

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Ebay is on the NASDAQ and other OS exchanges I presume so there would be very few Australian Ebay shareholders to get that tax back that they are squirrelling away to those scumbag Swiss

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dazzledayz — Mon, 23 Jul 2018 22:36:24 GMT

Actually, eBay has always had it's billing address in Bern, Switzerland.

It's been this way since the very first invoice I received years ago.

Obviously something has changed but I'm unsure as to what and it would appear ebay is too.

Normally, your payment setup for billing would be through PayPal Australia which links to your personal bank account and cash transfers do not usually incur O/S transaction fees.

To my knowledge eBay aren't using Adyen for payment processing yet so these fees are something of a mystery.

What do your bank statements disclose?

If the funds are being sent to PayPal there should be no fees involved.

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minimum_56 — Tue, 24 Jul 2018 05:12:36 GMT

According to my Netbank - my previous payment via Paypal for seller fees (May 2018) is shown as:
PAYPAL*EBAYINTERNA +(my 10 digit code) AUS

The 2 payments that attracted the International fees (June & July) are shown as:
PAYPAL *EBAYMARKETP +(my 10 digit code) CHE - which is Switzerland which is the reason for the fees!!

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dazzledayz — Tue, 24 Jul 2018 05:58:43 GMT

@minimum_56 wrote:
According to my Netbank - my previous payment via Paypal for seller fees (May 2018) is shown as:
PAYPAL*EBAYINTERNA +(my 10 digit code) AUS

The 2 payments that attracted the International fees (June & July) are shown as:
PAYPAL *EBAYMARKETP +(my 10 digit code) CHE - which is Switzerland which is the reason for the fees!!

I find that passing strange as the PayPal we deal with is an Australian entity.

If it wasn't we'd be charged O/S transfer rates for every transaction they processed out of our accounts.

What happens to funds after they've reached paypal should have no relevance to an Aussie bank.

I don't often require funds to be drawn from an account to settle a purchase (or monthly fees) but my partner did recently and no O/S fees applied then.

I can only think that somehow eBay is processing account payments through an O/S PayPal operation instead of the local one.

This looks like a glitch at the eBay end so should be cleared up eventually and at least they are refunding the extra charges.

It certainly doesn't inspire confidence in ebay's plan to become the payment intermediary though.

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dazzledayz — Tue, 24 Jul 2018 06:16:30 GMT

Additional:

The only advice I can offer is to make sure you have enough funds in your PayPal account to cover eBay monthly fees (at least until this mess gets cleared up).

Fees drawn from PP Australia DO NOT incur any O/S transaction impost according to my PP Statements.

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mana_louey — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 04:43:28 GMT

I've just noticed the exact same issue! Chatted with someone, but they really didn't understand what I was asking. Checked with the bank as well and they confirmed that it was eBay's processing in another country. 😞

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mana_louey — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 07:02:51 GMT

Does anyone have a copy of the email they sent?

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eol-products — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:37:15 GMT

What I find strange is I pay with paypal with cc card backup with this month being the first to show the charge all year. The statement description was slightly different towards the end than other months but I thought I was tranferring to paypal the short fall in funds. I am guessing it may be a paypal issue.

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lm-entertainment — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 16:13:59 GMT

i've just noticed this on my credit card statements as well - that when the paypal payment for fees is taken, if there are insufficient funds in the paypal account, an international transaction fee is being charged. i too am with CBA. i'll be hitting up ebay about it also.

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sacramentalstoles — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 20:14:20 GMT

The email from ebay was dated 16/4/2018

Changes to your User Agreement, User Privacy Notice and other eBay Agreements

In 2016, we began the process of realigning our legal structure to better reflect how we manage and operate our platforms.

As a result, starting 1 June 2018, eBay users residing in any country but the USA, Canada and the European Union will begin contracting with eBay Marketplaces GmbH, Helvetiastrasse 15/17, 3005 Bern, Switzerland, for their User Agreement, Billing Agreements, and any other agreements that they might have previously had with eBay International AG.

All affected users will see the above-mentioned eBay company name and address on their invoices, and we will begin collecting your charges in an account held by this eBay entity.You may also see the new eBay entity on your bank statement as well as a comment advising you of the final payment in favour of the old eBay entity and the first payment in favour of the new eBay entity.

While we may make other changes to services and programs over time, you should see no interruption to your service because of these updates, and you will not need to make any changes to your listings. You also do not need to take any action to continue using any payment method you may have on file with eBay, as details of the change will have been supplied to your financial institution, who may also separately notify you. With the transfer of your contractual relationship, eBay Marketplaces GmbH will also take over the automatic payment method you agreed to for the payment of fees and other amounts owed to eBay for using the eBay services. Therefore, amounts owed to eBay will be collected by eBay Marketplaces GmbH through the automatic payment method you have chosen for your payment.

If you are a user residing in Taiwan, Turkey, Norway, Switzerland or Liechtenstein you may be charged VAT on your fees starting 1 August 2018. If we currently charge tax on your invoice, these changes won’t have an impact to your fees.

As a consequence of the change of your eBay contracting entity, eBay Marketplaces GmbH will also be your new data controller for the purposes of our User Privacy Notice. eBay Marketplaces GmbH will continue to maintain your data in accordance with our global privacy standards, known as our Binding Corporate Rules.

The effective date for these changes will be 1 June 2018 for users residing in any country but the USA, Canada and the European Union. We encourage you to review the new User Agreement, the User Privacy Notice, and your other existing agreements with us. You can also view the old User Agreement that will remain in force until 31 May 2018. If you choose not to accept these updated terms, you can withdraw from the User Agreement by cancelling your eBay account.

Thanks for being a part of the eBay community.

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auzap — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 00:10:36 GMT

I noticed this since July of this year that I started to get chaged with International Transaction fee....

What I found is that last month I paid manually and I did not get charged with that fee (So far).

I belive this is a cause for FOS to deal with them,

the business we are conductiong is in Australia and the payment method is in Australia we should never have been charged this fee and if that is the case I could locate any reference to advise us of this.

Anyone has lodge any complain about this?

Please let us know I believe every one impacted by this should lodge a complain.