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PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

mtshed2014 — Thu, 06 May 2021 01:50:06 GMT

Hello,

After some time conversing with people yesterday I have been told by a few that there will be no PayPal fees under the new eBay managed payment system however my recent sales experiences with items listed after I was registered with managed payments has had the PayPal payments come through just as they always have before - with buyers personal details as the sender of payment and the associated PayPal fee as part of the transfer breakdown. The fee being charged to me from PayPal.

I am being told this is a mistake and I am being told there will be no PayPal fees.

Well, I would like to ask those that are already receiving Paypal fees for sales since being registered for managed payments : Are you still being charged the PayPal fee by payPal as it has always been ?

Have gone over eBay and Paypal fee totals etc so not concerned so much about that , just if that PP fee is still applied.

I am aware of the following info from eBay :
>

eBay Australia benefits of managed payments :

Simpler to sell: Checkout is more flexible, with an easier experience for buyers. Buyers will have access to new ways to pay, including credit, debit and gift cards, Apple Pay, Google Pay, PayPal and After pay.

> eBay Stores selling fees for managed payments sellers

right down the bottom of the page :

> Fees for using PayPal

> We don't charge fees for using PayPal on eBay. However, if you accept PayPal payments, PayPal will charge a fee when you complete a sale, and the buyer pays with PayPal.

Thanks for your time

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

k1ooo-slr-sales — Thu, 06 May 2021 02:33:02 GMT

@mtshed2014 wrote:
(Some of this message not quoted as I am not going to refer to the removed part of the post)

> We don't charge fees for using PayPal on eBay. However, if you accept PayPal payments, PayPal will charge a fee when you complete a sale, and the buyer pays with PayPal.

Thanks for your time

I had my first sale on MP yesterday. I am unsure of how the purchase was funded by the buyer. I didn’t get that information.

The bit of your post that I quoted makes it clear. “If you accept PayPal payments, PayPal will charge a fee . . . “

If a buyer pays by PayPal to a seller on MP and the payment goes to eBay they then transfer it to seller’s bank account. No PayPal fees applied to the seller as they did not get the funds through PayPal.

If the payment shows in your PayPal account you pay a fee.

We might all be in a transition period. It may take months of being on MP for the chinks to be ironed out, and definitive answers to be provided. I know you said that you have been on MP for some time, and have received some payments through MP, but at this time I think only eBay can satisfactorily answer your questions.

I wish you well in your quest for answers.

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

mtshed2014 — Thu, 06 May 2021 02:36:03 GMT

Thank you.

I think the shared experiences at this stage are best in deciphering what format is going to be faced.

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

jfmgray — Thu, 06 May 2021 02:40:14 GMT

My experience from day 1 on managed payments has been consistent with eBay's advice. Since commencing with managed payments I have not had any payments from eBay sales go through paypal so no paypal fees. The buyer may still be paying via paypal (no way to know) but the money comes to my bank account.

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

mtshed2014 — Thu, 06 May 2021 02:46:49 GMT

cheers,
so far I am having 90+% go via managed payments, and then tarfserred into bank account from Ayden/eBay, and then 10% thereabouts directly to PayPal - with those looking just as they did before.

I'm thinking it's coming down to what choices the buyers are getting at time of checkout. Guess I should buy something and see what happens on that side of the fence.

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

jfmgray — Thu, 06 May 2021 02:54:36 GMT

"I'm thinking it's coming down to what choices the buyers are getting at time of checkout."

With managed payments all buyers still get the choice of paying with paypal but the payment to you should not be going into your paypal account. No idea why payment for 10% of your sales are being sent to your paypal account. At the start I had a few go into my paypal account but that was for sales which occurred PRIOR to managed payments but the payment was made AFTER managed payments commenced. And in these few cases where I paid the paypal fee I did not get charged the equivalent eBay fee.

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

mtshed2014 — Thu, 06 May 2021 03:06:20 GMT

Interesting...so back to the waiting game to see what happens over time.

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

katistrophik — Thu, 06 May 2021 03:18:16 GMT

Also you buying something is not going to answer your question if this is only happening with you and maybe a few other sellers.

When you get the payment into paypal is it then forwarded or can you access it from PP like we used to?

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

mtshed2014 — Thu, 06 May 2021 03:22:29 GMT

I may have to buy something from myself, and get it refunded due to not liking the colour.

Could buy a pair of socks, one via PayPal and the other via …well...managed payments or whatever option given.

Stands to reason I wouldn't like the colour of either of them.

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

katistrophik — Thu, 06 May 2021 04:09:33 GMT

I thought of that, but be careful, may be as a guest? List a right sock and a left sock LOL

I am spending way too much time here, good luck

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

mtshed2014 — Thu, 06 May 2021 04:19:54 GMT

yes 🙂

the payment are going to PayPal balance instantly with everything exactly as before, & transferrable out to bank instantly.

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

davewil1964 — Thu, 06 May 2021 05:05:03 GMT

Is there a specific category that you're being paid through Paypal for?

Some things aren't covered by MP and initially sellers were told that those would still go through Paypal (or whatever the buyer opted for).

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

katistrophik — Thu, 06 May 2021 05:20:12 GMT

@mtshed2014 wrote:
yes 🙂

the payment are going to PayPal balance instantly with everything exactly as before, & transferrable out to bank instantly.

Then PP fee's are all you should get - no MP fee's at all, correct ? (Not a seller, just curious)

davewill - Interesting

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

mtshed2014 — Thu, 06 May 2021 05:41:12 GMT

The examples I have referred to before, when comparing MP and PayPal received payments, were both in category of >electronics> home audio , components .....then a slight variance between the two.

Both listed and sold after being registered with MP.

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

mtshed2014 — Thu, 06 May 2021 05:53:08 GMT

yeah, the PP fees plus the reduced eBay sales fees of around 10.9%= 13-14%,
as apposed to the 13-14% when processed with managed payments, and without any PayPal payment or PP fee component.

That's how my fees split when I checked both sales against each other.

as a note : I refunded an amount to the buyer who paid via PayPal, ( and processed that partial refund directly from their eBay linked PayPal payment ), due to finding a cheaper delivery alternative. No sign of any fee reimbursement from eBay . PayPal have refunded some fees due to the refund.

Not sure if eBay's old schedule made the refund when I did the same but I surely can't see it within their latest accounting.

…and sorry if repeating myself form another thread but I've been jumping between multiple browsers, eBay accounts , and screens, so sometimes posting with wrong eBay account name.

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

katistrophik — Thu, 06 May 2021 06:50:50 GMT

Clear as mud

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

davewil1964 — Thu, 06 May 2021 06:56:26 GMT

Neither eBay nor Paypal refund fees on partial refunds. eBay will (less the 30c) for a full cancellation, Paypal not, so that is a plus for MP.

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

imastawka — Thu, 06 May 2021 06:59:51 GMT

Seeing you have just recently been put on Managed Payments, maybe your 'transition' is not complete just yet?

During the transition, some item sales will still go to your PayPal account. Once the transition is complete, all your item sales will be sent to your chosen bank account.

Updating your listings for managed payments | eBay

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

mtshed2014 — Thu, 06 May 2021 07:58:28 GMT

PayPal do for me :

This is the $10.85 refund sent back to buyer directly from their received PP payment :

Refund details

Total refunded to blanked
$10.85
Fee reversal
-negative $0.28
Total paid by you $10.57

Talking cents I know , but they do take the refund into account.

Re: PayPal fees under managed payment - please clarify from experience if possible

mtshed2014 — Thu, 06 May 2021 08:00:56 GMT

At this stage I'm thinking you may be right.

Doesn't really explain this :

> eBay Stores selling fees for managed payments sellers

right down the bottom of the page :

> Fees for using PayPal

> We don't charge fees for using PayPal on eBay. However, if you accept PayPal payments, PayPal will charge a fee when you complete a sale, and the buyer pays with PayPal.

But I think patience isn't going to be key here.