topic Re: offensive in Selling

offensive

cfmj*59 — Mon, 08 Nov 2021 21:30:07 GMT

good morning afternoon depending on where you are .

I attempted to add a very old golliwog to sell today and was told that I could not sell it as it was offensive , I can however

I can buy this

i find this offensive why can this be advertised

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sandypebbles — Mon, 08 Nov 2021 21:57:16 GMT

So you find sex toys offensive but you search for them any way, and show it to other members on a public forum

Makes sense

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repentatleisure1952 — Mon, 08 Nov 2021 22:01:18 GMT

Possibly because they are listed in the correct category... idk

I agree with sandy... must have taken some searching to find them.

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papermoon.lady — Mon, 08 Nov 2021 23:14:54 GMT

You are right, there are more offensive listings than golliwogs (I often see them at doll fairs and some are even cute), but there is no need to post a screenshot of other more offensive listings here...

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jellybirddesigns — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 02:01:26 GMT

Sex is completely different to racism. I think most people don't care what you do in the bedroom, but do understand that a golliwog is a historically unflattering caricature stereotype.

No idea why you're linking the two. Sex toys are allowed. Racism, nazism etc are not.

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domino-710 — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 03:35:49 GMT

LOL - what an interesting comparison.

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sugar249 — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 06:44:22 GMT

So if you find it offensive, why did you search for it? Sounds like you have a deeper issue.

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imastawka — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 08:21:59 GMT

OOOOOh goody. Thank you.

Now I know what to tell my daughter to get me for Christmas.

Been looking for a while for a vintage Golly

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pirie_online — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 09:17:35 GMT

list as black rag doll and it will pass (don't give a hoot about the other listing)

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digital*ghost — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 11:07:24 GMT

@cfmj*59 wrote:
good morning afternoon depending on where you are .
I attempted to add a very old golliwog to sell today and was told that I could not sell it as it was offensive , I can however
I can buy this

[insert image here.... wait, that may be a poor choice of words 😳]

i find this offensive why can this be advertised

Is it because it's "white"? 🤣

Seriously... eBay is, at the end of the day, a US company, and their policies on these kinds of things will affect all sites regardless of how an item might be regarded outside of the US (otherwise people could go to any site, list the item and make them appear on other sites).

The golly does not have a racism-free history, especially in the US (it's in the Jim Crow Museum of Racist Memorabilia for a reason).

Toys like that.....don't dehumanise anyone through caricature, which is very much a part of the history of the golly, whether it's viewed that way by an individual or not.

Make an argument for those kinds of toys doing so (body shaming? unrealistic, err..."beauty" standards? feelings of inadequacy perhaps?) and maybe they might end up similarly out of favour one day. (Somehow I doubt it 😆 ).

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papermoon.lady — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 18:28:55 GMT

I think it is a problematic issue (and an issue that also divides doll collectors). The golliwog does have a racist history, and racism against black people was pretty bad when the golliwog came out, particularly in the USA. The name itself is offensive, and maybe these dolls should be renamed in the first place.

However, I have seen explanations of why they are offensive that in themselves sounded pretty racist instead of against racism, like that they are ugly caricatures because they have black frizzy hair, fleshy lips, scary round eyes rimmed in white... I don't know, but I think that saying that all these features are ugly sounds racist in itself to me.

So yes, it is definitely a difficult issue.

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sandypebbles — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 21:24:22 GMT

I am surprised OP had not been back to complain what they went searching for, and found is now on display on their page under 'recently viewed items' and that they are getting email reminders from eBay about the item they viewed

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domino-710 — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 22:46:23 GMT

At least it's listed as ' Brand New ' .😀

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sandypebbles — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 22:50:02 GMT

But is it as described?

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domino-710 — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 22:51:29 GMT

Not sure I'm game to read the description. lol

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domino-710 — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 22:53:16 GMT

Really - it's got a remote. 🤣

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sandypebbles — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 22:54:01 GMT

I notice the screenshot the OP so kindly provided mentions remote control

Really though? How lazy would you have to be?

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domino-710 — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 22:55:57 GMT

Best get out of my jammies then. 🙂

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papermoon.lady — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 22:59:49 GMT

Sometimes eBay also suggests items based on recently viewed items.. 🙂

@sandypebbles wrote:
I am surprised OP had not been back to complain what they went searching for, and found is now on display on their page under 'recently viewed items' and that they are getting email reminders from eBay about the item they viewed

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domino-710 — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 23:09:29 GMT

OMG - just made the mistake of going - quite innocently - lol - to the actual website.

They have a 70% off Sale - oh brother - don't overpay. 😎