topic Re: Standard Disclaimer ?? in Selling

Standard Disclaimer ??

foxette-in-sox — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:35:19 GMT

I am noticing right down the bottom in VERY VERY light grey,the following 'Standard Disclaimer' on quite a few sellers listings-never seen it before.Anyone else seeing this &/or know what its about?

And yes,this EXACTLY how light it is

STANDARD DISCLAIMER This Ebay Account is furnishing this item "as is". We do not provide any warranty of the item whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any warranty of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose or any warranty that the contents of the item will be error-free. In no respect shall we incur any liability for any damages, including, but limited to, direct, indirect, special, or consequential damages arising out of, resulting from, or any way connected to the use of the item, whether or not based upon warranty, contract, tort, or otherwise; whether or not injury was sustained by persons or property or otherwise; and whether or not loss was sustained from, or arose out of, the results of, the item, or any services that may be provided by this ebay account. If a recognizable item appears in this account, use for commercial purposes may infringe a right of privacy or publicity. It may not be used to state or imply the endorsement by this accounts employees of a commercial product, process or service, or used in any other manner that might mislead. Accordingly, it is requested that if this account is used in advertising and other commercial promotion, layout and copy be submitted to Us prior to release. It may not be used to state or imply the endorsement by our employees of a commercial product, process or service, or used in any other manner that might mislead.

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

*sparklz* — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:43:57 GMT

Never seen it.

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

digital*ghost — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:47:34 GMT

Hmm, I've only returned a handful of listings with that in it, and they are all low-ish FB-ers selling same/similar fashion jewellery and the listing descriptions are virtual copy/pastes of one another - complete with the big font in a rainbow of colours....

So, my guess is that it's something they've whacked in their themselves (when an item is sold 'as is', there's no SNAD protection via PayPal, my guess is they're trying to avoid claims from people who receive jewellery broken, or it breaks within 5 mins. The faint colour says it all, really.

Quick tip - to read the text foxy posted more easily, highlight it so the background goes dark blue and the text is white, much easier to see. 🙂

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

digital*ghost — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:48:26 GMT

Argh! *there.

Oh for an edit button. :_|

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

thecatspjs — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:49:16 GMT

I have never seen it either.

If it was in any listing of an item I have purchased I would never have noticed it.

Until i highlighted the light text in the OP post - the white space looked exactly like white space to me ?:|

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

*new2vintage — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:53:04 GMT

I think it's as unenforceable as " Seller can't be held responsible for loss or damage in the postal system. "

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

foxette-in-sox — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:53:28 GMT

Sorry,when I copied it,it was blue,when I posted,it was virtually unreadable again.

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

digital*ghost — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:03:35 GMT

This should do it... (paragraphs added, even 😉 ).

In no respect shall we incur any liability for any damages, including, but limited to, direct, indirect, special, or consequential damages arising out of, resulting from, or any way connected to the use of the item, whether or not based upon warranty, contract, tort, or otherwise; whether or not injury was sustained by persons or property or otherwise; and whether or not loss was sustained from, or arose out of, the results of, the item, or any services that may be provided by this ebay account.

If a recognizable item appears in this account, use for commercial purposes may infringe a right of privacy or publicity. It may not be used to state or imply the endorsement by this accounts employees of a commercial product, process or service, or used in any other manner that might mislead. Accordingly, it is requested that if this account is used in advertising and other commercial promotion, layout and copy be submitted to Us prior to release. It may not be used to state or imply the endorsement by our employees of a commercial product, process or service, or used in any other manner that might mislead.

It's gobbledegook, basically. The first paragraph effectively carries a line saying they don't guarantee their items are fit for the purpose that they're sold for... Just... :^O

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

foxette-in-sox — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:23:51 GMT

It's gobbledegook, basically.

Oh cool,wanted to make sure it wasn't just me ;\

(goes back to looking at carp listings)

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

davewil1964 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 11:03:33 GMT

I'd like to see how they go in court saying they're not liable for statutory warranties. :^O

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

boomct — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 11:15:44 GMT

Makes one wonder what hideous thing happened as a result of their items to make them feel the need to add such a disclaimer. Eeek!

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

j*oono — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:06:44 GMT

Just report the listings.

Listing practices >

Inappropriate seller terms

or for the ones in fine jewellery,

Listing practices >

Search and browse manipulation or

Listing in an inappropriate category.

Even fraudulent listings > You suspect that a listing is fraudulent.

It's pretty hard to put ebay on alert to these sellers. Odd to say because you can't always say "these" as their feedback probably comes from their other IDs. They all have private sales too. Ebay are so slow to react to reports.

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

viewmont1071 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:02:37 GMT

plagiarism lives..... obviously into rocket science in a big way

http://goes.gsfc.nasa.gov/text/disclaimer.html

NASA is furnishing this item "as is". NASA does not provide any warranty of the item whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any warranty of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose or any warranty that the contents of the item will be error-free.

In no respect shall NASA incur any liability for any damages, including, but limited to, direct, indirect, special, or consequential damages arising out of, resulting from, or any way connected to the use of the item, whether or not based upon warranty, contract, tort, or otherwise; whether or not injury was sustained by persons or property or otherwise; and whether or not loss was sustained from, or arose out of, the results of, the item, or any services that may be provided by NASA.

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

viewmont1071 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:08:16 GMT

In my time I have had some sneaky sneaky students and had to mark their work accordingly

http://www.dustball.com/cs/plagiarism.checker/

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

putney32 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:45:40 GMT

In my time I have had some sneaky sneaky students and had to mark their work accordingly

http://www.dustball.com/cs/plagiarism.checker/

wow, love a sneaky sneaky teacher too !!

Merry Christmas Viewmont, wish I was spending it in your neck of the woods this year.

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

viewmont1071 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:23:32 GMT

and back 2u2 Lyndel and yours..... I will especially rip a "bomb" off the pontoon for you at Bellwood.....

Please take care, swim only between the flags and remain vigilant with children around the beach during the break

..... the surf was almost like a mill pond yesterday morning but this still happened to a young local just past Coffs Harbour

http://www.coffscoastadvocate.com.au/news/grave-fears-young-boys-dragged-surf-emerald/1691999/

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

phorum_junkie* — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:29:47 GMT

So it IS rocket science :^O

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

**meep** — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:34:37 GMT

I'd like to see how they go in court saying they're not liable for statutory warranties. :^O

Putting signs like that in shops is actually illegal.

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

**meep** — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:40:32 GMT

doesnt this pop up often enough?

Important information for sellers: consumer guarantees, returns and warranties

Sellers are required under Australian law to accept returns for goods purchased from a business and provide Australian consumers with a repair, replacement or refund if the goods:

Are faulty, or become faulty within a reasonable period of time after purchase

Are not fit for any purpose you stated or that the buyer made known to you (i.e. they don't do what you said they would do)

Don’t match your description or sample

Are of unacceptable quality, or

Fail to meet other mandatory consumer guarantees under the Australian Consumer Law.

Re: Standard Disclaimer ??

foxette-in-sox — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:15:11 GMT

J*oono,I had absolutely NFI they were reportable-just thought it was weird.Don't think I'd waste my time anyway except maybe on Boxing Day which is always boring lol

Also had NFI until DG picked it up,that it was only ? in jewellery as I've been in heaps of categories buying Christmas presents :8}

Dave,how do you feel about strangers showing up on your doorstep because of where you live?:-x:^O