topic Re: eBay accepted third party authentication for handbags? in Selling

eBay accepted third party authentication for handbags?

kittys_boutique — Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:57:50 GMT

I keep getting bags rejected by eBay authentication over authenticity concerns, despite knowing the bag's originator personally and/or certifying it with certain authenticators, that eBay doesn't care about. Then, I'm slapped with several day bans on selling, now extending to 10 days each time. I can't go on like this. Is there any third party authentication service for handbags that eBay will take as authoritative enough to dispute their own 'findings'?

Is eBay authentication for handbags even real?

Re: eBay accepted third party authentication for handbags?

i-once-was-bump — Fri, 01 Sep 2023 12:43:02 GMT

Is the problem with only one brand of bag?

Re: eBay accepted third party authentication for handbags?

sugar249 — Sat, 02 Sep 2023 09:28:31 GMT

which brand bag,

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sugar249 — Sat, 02 Sep 2023 11:14:09 GMT

Plus define what you mean by the bags originator. the originator could be the forger

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kittys_boutique — Sat, 02 Sep 2023 17:47:22 GMT

Not a single brand of bag, I need an authentication service that eBay can trust. Bag's originator as in the person who gave us the bag, could be a trusted client or even store.

Have people had good experience with Entrupy? Is that pretty much what eBay uses or would they rather dispute that as well?

Re: eBay accepted third party authentication for handbags?

imastawka — Sat, 02 Sep 2023 21:21:09 GMT

Authenticity Guarantee for Handbags | eBay.com.au

Re: eBay accepted third party authentication for handbags?

sugar249 — Sat, 02 Sep 2023 22:09:17 GMT

@kittys_boutique wrote:
Bag's originator as in the person who gave us the bag, could be a trusted client or even store.

Well there you go, obviously not a trusted client, and do you believe all stores sell legit bags.

Re: eBay accepted third party authentication for handbags?

domino-710 — Sat, 02 Sep 2023 22:32:11 GMT

I'm curious as to who ' certain authenticators ' actually are. ??

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imastawka — Sun, 03 Sep 2023 00:00:31 GMT

It looks like you're drop shipping a fair few bags from Hong Kong.

How do you know they are authentic, considering the Chinese have a reputation for 'off brand' items?

Re: eBay accepted third party authentication for handbags?

kittys_boutique — Sun, 03 Sep 2023 00:30:59 GMT

I don't know 100% that they are authentic, but then again I don't know 100% that eBay is being always truthful about what's authentic or not. Hence the query about finding an authenticator that is better aligned with eBay (that would make calls similar to eBay's whether or not they are 100% correct)

The major point is about finding a better authenticator which I believe we can all agree is a good thing.

Re: eBay accepted third party authentication for handbags?

padi*0409 — Sun, 03 Sep 2023 00:36:15 GMT

@kittys_boutique wrote:

The major point is about finding a better authenticator which I believe we can all agree is a good thing.

I very much doubt that eBay is going to be happy with your choice of authenticator when they already have their own.

Re: eBay accepted third party authentication for handbags?

imastawka — Sun, 03 Sep 2023 00:36:25 GMT

Another authenticator would only be for your benefit/peace of mind.

Ebay's authenticator has the final say.

Re: eBay accepted third party authentication for handbags?

kittys_boutique — Sun, 03 Sep 2023 00:36:41 GMT

They would be from my known clients who had bought the bags in the branded stores in Hong Kong or even outside of Hong Kong on travel. Look, if no suggestions are forthcoming in this regard I would just have to buy Entrupy and see what happens. I hear a lot of false fake reports from Entrupy (well they don't call it fake, they just call it "not identified" or something), which is fine by me as long as there are few false negatives (things they call genuine that eBay will call fake)

Re: eBay accepted third party authentication for handbags?

padi*0409 — Sun, 03 Sep 2023 00:45:37 GMT

Entrupy themselves only give them a 99.1% correct evaluation score - you can be certain that eBay is NOT going to take their evaluation over their authenticators.

Re: eBay accepted third party authentication for handbags?

kittys_boutique — Sun, 03 Sep 2023 00:47:23 GMT

I have literally sold the same bag that was rejected by eBay to Vestiaire through their overseas in person authentication service.

Re: eBay accepted third party authentication for handbags?

domino-710 — Sun, 03 Sep 2023 00:56:38 GMT

That's fine - but will not fly as far as eBay's concerned.

Re: eBay accepted third party authentication for handbags?

countessalmirena — Sun, 03 Sep 2023 01:18:22 GMT

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/102686918

Read the link.

There are many sources that might honestly believe they have genuine designer bags. However, the number of very good quality fakes is rising and they are a lot harder to detect. Some high-end shops (eg, Cosette) might be selling some fakes if they do not source every bag direct from the designers.

Unless the item came from, for instance , Chanel, or YSL, or Gucci, etc. — directly — there is a possibility that a costly bag is not genuine. If it’s from China/Hong Kong, the possibility is increased.

You're importing from HK — you say you’re not sure they’re genuine — well, now you can be pretty sure they’re not. Your own authenticator will not be a reason for you to bypass eBay’s own authentication service.

❝If your item is eligible for eBay Authenticity Guarantee, it will be automatically added to the program, free of charge. There is no opt in or opt out option.❞

and

❝If an item doesn't pass authentication

If your item doesn't pass the authentication checks – either because the inspectors can't determine that the product is authentic, or because the item is not consistent with the listing and photographs – it will be returned to you and the buyer will receive their money back.

It's not possible to appeal an authentication decision. Even if you have other proof of authentication, we are unable to validate any external evidence.❞

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daydreams_12 — Sun, 03 Sep 2023 01:28:48 GMT

OP has removed all listings that were there yesterday

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*sons_n_daughters* — Sun, 03 Sep 2023 02:56:18 GMT

I love the BRAND NEW rare Gucci bag they sold that says it's PRE-OWNED.

Re: eBay accepted third party authentication for handbags?

sugar249 — Sun, 03 Sep 2023 07:46:00 GMT

@kittys_boutique wrote:
They would be from my known clients who had bought the bags in the branded stores in Hong Kong or even outside of Hong Kong on travel. Look, if no suggestions are forthcoming in this regard I would just have to buy Entrupy and see what happens. I hear a lot of false fake reports from Entrupy (well they don't call it fake, they just call it "not identified" or something), which is fine by me as long as there are few false negatives (things they call genuine that eBay will call fake)

Oh come on stop kidding your self Hong Kong and you are claiming they are real. Thats just a joke isnt it, now we know you are pulling our leg