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Ikea Taking Down Genuine Listings Now?

reins-9631* — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 07:54:16 GMT

I'm well aware of the VeRo program however, I am selling a sealed Doona set because I don't need it, Using my own photos, not theirs and it got taken down. I'm not price gouging it either, it was $12 cheaper than Ikea, I can't return it as its passed return period. Obviously this isn't my selling account. Any idea why this is the case now? My listing had been up for ages, wasn't in a rush to sell it knew it would sell eventually.

Re: Ikea Taking Down Genuine Listings Now?

sandypebbles — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 08:07:28 GMT

Are you saying you did get Ikea's permission?

If not, then Ikea had every right to report the listing

Re: Ikea Taking Down Genuine Listings Now?

reins-9631* — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 08:18:51 GMT

No, I get that however

Have you searched IKEA on ebay? Heaps of listings, Seems unreasonable to me. Like most people resell products you know they no longer need on here, its not like im selling bulk quantities of them or some fake airpods. It was 1 doona set and there are other sellers with rip offs directly from their site.

Sure I could give it away for free or donate it but just seems completely stupid when ikea supposed to be sustainable.

I just think its a dangerous precedent if I or someone else wants to resell some used or unused clothes, might have worry if they are going to be taken down or not.

Re: Ikea Taking Down Genuine Listings Now?

eol-products — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:37:14 GMT

Ikea can't stop you selling one of their products, well not legally.

Re: Ikea Taking Down Genuine Listings Now?

reins-9631* — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:59:52 GMT

On eBay or in general? Because I was going to say this is pretty unusual for eBay.

Re: Ikea Taking Down Genuine Listings Now?

gutterpunkz05 — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:42:17 GMT

And yet they have!!

Yes they do have property rights even in Australia.

wipo, madrid treaty, (even China is a signatory)

Re: Ikea Taking Down Genuine Listings Now?

gutterpunkz05 — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:52:20 GMT

No, it is not unusual at all, and some owners of property rights take it very serious and pay big money to protect their rights. Often going way over the top in doing so.

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eol-products — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:59:59 GMT

They certainly do have property rights and copyright issues should enforced.

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eol-products — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:02:56 GMT

I would have thought your own photos you had taken would be your property not the owner of the item being photoed. Maybe you can point us in the right direction for more information.

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eol-products — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:07:30 GMT

Did you get an email address to contact. You can ask them why they complained.

Re: Ikea Taking Down Genuine Listings Now?

gutterpunkz05 — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 00:06:53 GMT

If your photo contains a Trademark, Logo etc, even though you took the photo, it still equates to a breach of trademark. I know, it can get a little complicated. But there is plenty of very basic information on property rights available, for both national and international rights.

A good place to start would be the ebay vero policy (peruse some of the info from participants), otherwise a bit of research into selling items covered by Trademark, copyright etc. There is plenty of info out there, without having to pay for it.

By the way, even a brand name can be covered by TM, in which case you can not legally use the brand name without permission, which normally comes at a cost.

Re: Ikea Taking Down Genuine Listings Now?

eol-products — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 01:18:35 GMT

So how does one sell a motor vehicle and what would they call it if the brand is trademarked and if you show photos do you blur out the name.

Re: Ikea Taking Down Genuine Listings Now?

gutterpunkz05 — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 08:50:21 GMT

Your obviously not aware of the first sale doctrine, or exhaustion of trademark. Something seams to be becoming more apparent.

How many new cars do you have for sale, and why do you think you would be able to sell them without the brand owners permission.

Even if you won a new car in a raffle, it is no longer classed as new and you can not sell it as such.

Re: Ikea Taking Down Genuine Listings Now?

eol-products — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 08:52:13 GMT

So you say you can sell a car but not a doona using the same selling method. What am I missing.

Re: Ikea Taking Down Genuine Listings Now?

eol-products — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 08:58:05 GMT

Also is that not a US term "the first sale doctrine".

Re: Ikea Taking Down Genuine Listings Now?

sugar249 — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 08:58:38 GMT

So aren't ikea allowed to protect themselves from trying to sell fake products,

Sure yours may be real, but as far as they know it may not be.

Re: Ikea Taking Down Genuine Listings Now?

eol-products — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 09:02:23 GMT

If you read the message you would know there was no issue with it being a fake. Plus who would fake an Ikea product.

Re: Ikea Taking Down Genuine Listings Now?

sugar249 — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 09:09:57 GMT

@eol-products wrote:
Plus who would fake an Ikea product.

China Faked a whole Ikea store.

Re: Ikea Taking Down Genuine Listings Now?

eol-products — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 09:13:03 GMT

Thats funny. I wonder what the quality was like.

Re: Ikea Taking Down Genuine Listings Now?

sugar249 — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 09:15:20 GMT

@eol-products wrote:
Thats funny. I wonder what the quality was like.

But back to your point, yes the message didnt mention a fake, but the VeRo program cant mention fake, as without an inspection of the product they cant say. But use of their copyright is mentioned. Simple really