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I charge exact postage, just realise eBay charge a fee on postage as well ?14% total fees w PPal !

cardikel — Sun, 06 Jul 2014 04:36:14 GMT

I am afraid eBay's greed is starting to price sellers out of their site .. Just not worth it now !

Re: I charge exact postage, just realise eBay charge a fee on postage as well ?14% total fees w PPal

haolove13 — Sun, 06 Jul 2014 04:49:16 GMT

To do the correct calculation it is over 15 % now as you pay FVF on the commsion as well.

Say postage is $10.00

you may think it is only 99 cents commsiion but the FVF is on the actual charge so on $10.99 you still lose money. as you pay ebay $1.09 commission

Then you must add paypal as well

to recover $10.00 in actual postage cost you actually need to charge $11.50 just to break even.

Times are tough around the place but everyone I speak to has given up on Ebay.

Just not enough return for the risk and costs .

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cq_tech — Sun, 06 Jul 2014 15:39:44 GMT

With 9.9% FVF, to recover $10 in actual postage, in fact you'll need to charge $11.10 to break even, not $11.50.

This represents as near as dammit to 10.99% so if you add that percentage to your postage, you'll break dead even.

For example, if postage = $18.75 you multiply that by 10.99% to get $20.81 and eBay take 9.9% ($2.06), leaving you the $18.75 you paid.

Therefore, to make it simple, just add 11% to your postage and you'll always break even. 🙂

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springyzone — Sun, 06 Jul 2014 21:02:09 GMT

And that is on exact postage. If you are factoring in the hidden costs such as wrapping etc, that buyers don't always consider, then it can look excessive even when it isn't. No wonder ebay wants people to add it to the item cost and just list things as 'free postage'.

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cq_tech — Sun, 06 Jul 2014 23:34:08 GMT

Exactly. Ebay want us to mislead our buyers even though doing so breaches their own rules & regulations. They're nothing but hypocrites.

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haolove13 — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:20:59 GMT

And do not forget to recover your paypalcost as well.

When I first started on Ebay I did not have a paypal account as paypal was twice the cost of my merchant credit facility.

Now that everyone has been hoodwinked into thinking paypal is perfect and AUSTRALIAN LAW has charged you are allowed to recover the actual cost of credit card / merchant costs. So the actual breakeven cost is closer to my figure than yours.

and if someone uses an alternative payment method the few cents of extra profit can go towards recovering the intangibles like bubble wrap, envelopes,boxes and also start to go towards the inevitable loss through false paypal claims.

And also do not forget that the safe drop system seems to be on it's last legs so there will be an increase in claims for items left on doormats.

Still a no win situation for sellers ,

so to quote you cq_tech

Therefore, to make it simple, just add 11% to your postage and you'll always break even.

Well you will not breakeven at that percentage.

And you will have nothing in reserve for what has become inevitable claims.

SORRY BUT THAT SPIN DOES NOT WEAR WITH ME ANYMORE !!!!

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cardikel — Sun, 13 Jul 2014 07:16:32 GMT

Just tested the market by putting a couple of cheaper items on local free sites, both sold within a day, buyers collected and no fees. May not be as successful with higher priced items but will give it a try. One of the ladies who bought off me said she has sold some baby items for her daughter on eBay and actually ended with fees taking all the cost !

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i-love-my-sheep — Sun, 13 Jul 2014 08:30:38 GMT

You're far better selling baby clothes on Gumtree......so my sister reckons.....for the reasons you mentioned.

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lane-ends — Sun, 13 Jul 2014 10:12:09 GMT

gumtree works best for pick up items that are not worth posting.

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ccrider1966 — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 03:22:42 GMT

Since the fvf is higher now and we pay a fee if we post I find sales are down and Im not optimistic about selling. You cant put 11% extra on shipping costs,most buyers dont like what I charge on postage but I just quote what Aus Post charge. I cannot give discounts on products and postage in the hope of making a sale. Ebay has ruined sellers. I sold a phone for $72,take out paypal,fvf and postage fee from ebay and Im not left with any profit at all. Ebays days are numbered. Thanks for nothing.

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imastawka — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 03:43:42 GMT

Here's someone who either doesn't/can't do math or is relying on

multiple purchases,

Not a new seller either. Don't they check their fees?

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/3295433/m.html?item=231282468360&hash=item35d9826608&pt=AU_PaperPostcards&_sop=15&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1

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i-love-my-sheep — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 04:22:50 GMT

It's no wonder you are losing out when you look at your listings. If 10 individual people buy 10 of your $1 cards, you will actually lose money. By the time you pay 70c for the postage and eBay take their chunk, there is nothing else. That was one of the reasons I stopped listing items with a start price of 99c. My items were selling for 99c which meant I was losing out. And that was before there was a FVF for postage.

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imastawka — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 04:28:50 GMT

chooks, it's not magnificent pies selling the cards BTW

Ebay fvf. Pay for stamp, envelope, packing(cardboard) Paypal fees.

But you also have to factor in the Paypal fee of 30c for 1 item as well

They are actually paying people to take them off their hands.

Re: I charge exact postage, just realise eBay charge a fee on postage as well ?14% total fees w PPal

i-love-my-sheep — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 05:08:48 GMT

@imastawka wrote:
chooks, it's not magnificent pies selling the cards BTW

Ebay fvf. Pay for stamp, envelope, packing(cardboard) Paypal fees.
But you also have to factor in the Paypal fee of 30c for 1 item as well

They are actually paying people to take them off their hands.

Oooops! My mistake. Sorry Pies!

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jlswarehouse1 — Sun, 22 Dec 2024 20:33:38 GMT

EBay greed is taking all of our profits, in November they offered free promotion postage then they took it all back in one hit $140 just taken without any comments.

then i put in a claim it’s been escalated god knows where in the mean time I’m hit with another large extra charge money grab another $130 just taken and I have checked these charges are unwarranted because an Australian post bag allows up to one kilo say for example I sold a singlet weighs 100 grams eBay slug me $4 extra post on an item weight 500 grams it’s obvious they are grabbing at everything, I’ve been on eBay 20 years and this is happening all of a sudden something is going on ?

someome needs to investigate eBay ?

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lezned-toycollector — Sun, 22 Dec 2024 21:13:21 GMT

It's not all of a sudden. It's been like it is for an eternity.

Is there any reason it's taken you 10 years to post about it? I'd suggest starting a new thread if you want to discuss your personal experience - this one will be locked shortly.

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sandypebbles — Sun, 22 Dec 2024 21:29:46 GMT

You say you have been on eBay 20 years

And yet you say the fees you are shown and agreed to when listing are 'all of a sudden', on a post from over ten years ago

What is going on is ticking the 'I have read and understood' box when you've done neither

As for the $140 not, is not that for the message sent by eBay to all sellers months ago?

Postage correction letter - The eBay Community

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kh-syedse — Sun, 22 Dec 2024 22:41:16 GMT

Hi everyone,

Due to the age of this thread, it has been closed to further replies. Please feel free to start a new thread, if you wish to continue to discuss this topic.

Thank you for understanding.