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Any Post Office workers here can illuminate? Posting parcels on Saturdays.

thegaminggamer — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 13:00:14 GMT

The mailman does not usually deliver parcels on Saturdays (or Sundays) but since the post office is open on Saturdays, is there any difference between posting an item on a Saturday and posting on the following Monday?

When I post an item on a Saturday, does anything happen to the parcels? For example, do the contracters/van drivers pick up the parcels on the same day? If this is the case, what's the supply chain process? Do they make productive use of the Saturday/Sunday (eg. parcels during the weekend go by car/plane instead of staying stationary)?

Or do my parcels sit in the basket/storage for the rest of the weekend until it gets picked up on Monday (so in this case, there is no difference between posting an item on a Saturday and a Monday)? In this case, I might as well stay home and enjoy my Saturday.

Also, do the weekend parcel activities (if any) depend on the Post Office branch?

Re: Any Post Office workers here can illuminate? Posting parcels on Saturdays.

putney32 — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 13:07:08 GMT

generally speaking, NO, parcels posted on Saturday do not get sent to the mail center until Monday.

(if yr not sure, why not ask the postmaster at your PO).

mail posted in the streetbox on a Saturday will most likely be collected on sunday evening (well in the major capital cities it is), and sorted Sunday night, sometimes for delivery in Monday in the same city.

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dylan11235813 — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 13:25:22 GMT

as far as I know mail doesn't go out on weekends but I have had customers ask about weekend deliverys with AusPOst

Re: Any Post Office workers here can illuminate? Posting parcels on Saturdays.

phorum_junkie* — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:24:00 GMT

If I post on a Saturday as I use click & send it is recorded as having been lodged then rather than Monday. If I don't have more than two or three parcels then the PO staff process them and then give them back to me to put in the box as mail is collected from there on a Sunday.

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lyndal1838 — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 17:56:49 GMT

In Sydney most post offices are open Saturday morning, but not all. Parcels lodged on Saturday do not go until late Monday with all the rest of Monday's mail.

Mail put in the street box will go late Sunday afternoon (about 5pm here). So anything posted in the street boxes has a 24 hour start on items lodged at the counter.

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shoptilludroptara — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 21:33:04 GMT

i actually asked about this at 2 different sydney po and was told no it will sit their till monday

even if the po is open on sat.

tara

Re: Any Post Office workers here can illuminate? Posting parcels on Saturdays.

k1ooo-slr-sales — Sat, 21 Sep 2013 02:31:07 GMT

@phorum_junkie* wrote:
If I post on a Saturday as I use click & send it is recorded as having been lodged then rather than Monday. If I don't have more than two or three parcels then the PO staff process them and then give them back to me to put in the box as mail is collected from there on a Sunday.

PJ, can I just clarify something here? Are you saying you lodge a C&S item over the counter and have it scanned by the PO staff on a Saturday, and then they give it back to you to take from the PO so that you can put it in a street box?

If that is what you are saying then I think that is a flaw in the C&S system. I know that you will probably say that the staff know you well and trust you, but the fact that an item can be lodged/scanned over the counter and then taken from the PO is worrying for me! Let's hope that those that read this don't suggest to their PO staff that they be allowed to do the same as it could lead to fraud.

Hopefully an Aust Post rep like Alice also reads this and issues a directive to PO Staff that this sort of behaviour is not acceptable for receipt and lodgement of mail!

Re: Any Post Office workers here can illuminate? Posting parcels on Saturdays.

thecatspjs — Sat, 21 Sep 2013 12:52:27 GMT

@phorum_junkie* wrote:
If I post on a Saturday as I use click & send it is recorded as having been lodged then rather than Monday. If I don't have more than two or three parcels then the PO staff process them and then give them back to me to put in the box as mail is collected from there on a Sunday.
k1ooo-slr-sales wrote: Let's hope that those that read this don't suggest to their PO staff that they be allowed to do the same as it could lead to fraud.

Yes indeed it is extremely concerning that others may read that post, and may attempt to mimic this type of process that IMO as presented would be well outside the AP requirements for handling lodged post received over the counter.

IMO though not indicated in post, even if the items were then posted in a street posting box in full view of AP staff, the article scan has become deceptive, as the item is no longer on the PO premises.

The method posted as presented must be also be very concerning to some buyers for obvious reasons, including those that may have lost INR disputes and were not compensated due to paypal policy.

Even if a back track or further clarification of the original post occurs further along this thread, some readers may not come back to read any potential follow up.

Personally, whilst I think AP is hopeless for a range of reasons, I think that the posting method as presented is likely to be a very isolated, and maybe even unique incident. Post office staff and contractors have statutory obligations under the Commonwealth's Australia Post Act and given the stakes I can only imagine most would take these very seriously indeed rather than face employment, contract or franchise penalties or even more serious consequences.

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iamanark — Sun, 22 Sep 2013 22:03:23 GMT

Quote: "If I post on a Saturday as I use click & send it is recorded as having been lodged then rather than Monday. If I don't have more than two or three parcels then the PO staff process them and then give them back to me to put in the box as mail is collected from there on a Sunday."

I believe this is a serious breach of Commonwealth Law by both the PO staff and also the ebayer concerned

And also by posting this information, the poster is also encouraging others to break the law

As these boards are monitored by Australia Post staff, I believe further action should be taken

Re: Any Post Office workers here can illuminate? Posting parcels on Saturdays.

*crikey*mate* — Sun, 22 Sep 2013 23:09:00 GMT

@thecatspjs wrote:

@phorum_junkie* wrote:
If I post on a Saturday as I use click & send it is recorded as having been lodged then rather than Monday. If I don't have more than two or three parcels then the PO staff process them and then give them back to me to put in the box as mail is collected from there on a Sunday.
k1ooo-slr-sales wrote: Let's hope that those that read this don't suggest to their PO staff that they be allowed to do the same as it could lead to fraud.

Yes indeed it is extremely concerning that others may read that post, and may attempt to mimic this type of process that IMO as presented would be well outside the AP requirements for handling lodged post received over the counter.

IMO though not indicated in post, even if the items were then posted in a street posting box in full view of AP staff, the article scan has become deceptive, as the item is no longer on the PO premises.

The method posted as presented must be also be very concerning to some buyers for obvious reasons, including those that may have lost INR disputes and were not compensated due to paypal policy.

Even if a back track or further clarification of the original post occurs further along this thread, some readers may not come back to read any potential follow up.

Personally, whilst I think AP is hopeless for a range of reasons, I think that the posting method as presented is likely to be a very isolated, and maybe even unique incident. Post office staff and contractors have statutory obligations under the Commonwealth's Australia Post Act and given the stakes I can only imagine most would take these very seriously indeed rather than face employment, contract or franchise penalties or even more serious consequences.

I don't understand.

Are you saying that you are aware that it is illegal for the PO to give you back your parcel to post yourself once they have scanned it into the system, but you still let them do it anyway?

Is that what you're saying?

Well you said they do this, although you did backtrack a bit and say it was probbably a unique occurrence, so probably just the once, eh? and then go on to dance around a bit once challenged in order to justify the actions,, but at the end of the day, this post indicates that you knew that what they did was wrong.

So, have I understoof correctly?

That you believe it ok to break the law if it is convenient?

Re: Any Post Office workers here can illuminate? Posting parcels on Saturdays.

k1ooo-slr-sales — Sun, 22 Sep 2013 23:37:20 GMT

@crikey*mate wrote:

So, have I understoof correctly?

No, you haven't. It was PJ that posted about handing over a C&S parcel and then walking out of the PO with it after it had been scanned. cats has not posted that she does this, nor has she posted anything in support of this scenario.

cats post was offering her ideas on the scenario presented in post #4, and in the absence of further clarification from PJ.

This is why she used the term "as presented", as PJ has not been back to provide further information at the time of cats posting.

Post #4 gave few details, and there may be some further information that sheds light on what looks like a potentially dodgy posting practice.

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*crikey*mate* — Sun, 22 Sep 2013 23:45:54 GMT

@k1ooo-slr-sales wrote:
@crikey*mate wrote:

So, have I understoof correctly?
No, you haven't. It was PJ that posted about handing over a C&S parcel and then walking out of the PO with it after it had been scanned. cats has not posted that she does this, nor has she posted anything in support of this scenario.

cats post was offering her ideas on the scenario presented in post #4, and in the absence of further clarification from PJ.

This is why she used the term "as presented", as PJ has not been back to provide further information at the time of cats posting.

Post #4 gave few details, and there may be some further information that sheds light on what looks like a potentially dodgy posting practice.

Thanks Sir Sales.

Cats PJ - please accept my apologies.

I did think it was a bit strange for you to do that which is why I think I was so incredulous. Again, I am really sorry for misunderstanding.

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australiapoststore — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 02:35:26 GMT

Hi,

It is very concerning to hear items are being handed back you after being scanned PJ. This certainly is not correct process and I would like to look further into this.

Once an item is scanned as posted, the correct process is for the item to stay at the post office until the mail is collected.

PJ could you please private message the best time and number to call you on to discuss this further?

Kim

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*crikey*mate* — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 03:06:58 GMT

Why? Surely this is something that all buyers and sellers should be aware of?

If it does happen, then it's only fair that full transparency is afforded to us, isn't it:? After all, we pay to use this service.

@australiapoststore wrote:
Hi,

It is very concerning to hear items are being handed back you after being scanned PJ. This certainly is not correct process and I would like to look further into this.

Once an item is scanned as posted, the correct process is for the item to stay at the post office until the mail is collected.

PJ could you please private message the best time and number to call you on to discuss this further?

Kim

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thecatspjs — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 03:23:16 GMT

@crikey*mate wrote:

So, have I understoof correctly?

That you believe it ok to break the law if it is convenient?

No, I do not think it is ok to break the law.

Thank you for your apology crikey, accepted.

I remain concerned about recent posts on this and other threads that outline scenarios that hold potential to mislead others and/or undermine buyer and seller confidence in our trading place and on-line trading.

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thecatspjs — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 03:34:45 GMT

@crikey*mate wrote:
Why? Surely this is something that all buyers and sellers should be aware of?
If it does happen, then it's only fair that full transparency is afforded to us, isn't it:? After all, we pay to use this service

Mmmm I would have thought generally that if someone makes some claims that may have potential legal ramifications you can't really expect AP to make further and detailed comment on such matters anywhere until investigated, including on a public discussion board IMO

But what would i know .