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Playboy Trading Cards

crowsman53 — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 03:26:32 GMT

Hi all

I wisdh to know where I stand with Ebay in selling some Playboy Trading Cards from the 1990's. Some of them are mild nudity. eg Brests, Am I allowed to list them on Ebay Australia with images? If so how do I know the buyer is 18+ Thank You

Crowsman

Re: Playboy Trading Cards

zelly888 — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 03:51:23 GMT

As far as I know you won't be permitted Crowsman

Re: Playboy Trading Cards

*crikey*mate* — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 03:57:28 GMT

I'm on a mobile device ATM so can't give links etc, but if you go to the tab at the too right marked customer support and type something like adult items policy into the search bar, it will give you the outlines.

Re: Playboy Trading Cards

rjm6572 — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 04:00:57 GMT

if you do a search of Playboy Trading Cards you will find 982 for sale in australia, dont know if any are nudity or not

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crowsman53 — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 04:01:43 GMT

I then wonder how I would go with just using a Playboy image from the cards such as The Bunny The Year and the card number..? I wish to sell them as I have no need for them but I dont know how.. Other that Gumtree.. In total I only have 18 Playboy cards from 1994, 1995 and 1997.

Crowsman

Re: Playboy Trading Cards

digital*ghost — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 04:56:54 GMT

Nudity is generally not permitted on the Australian site, with the following exceptions:

Media - With regard to media, nudity is permitted to the extent it constitutes a small and insignificant part of a catalog, book, periodical, or other work, which is not, as a whole, primarily devoted to sexual matters. Movies with PG, or R rating and pre-1980 Playboy, Playgirl and Penthouse magazines are permitted, but no photographs depicting nudity are allowed in these listings. Unrated media/movies must state that they are intended for all audiences and viewable by minors."

I don't know if the pre-1980 bit would extend to the cards, but the policy on nudity applies to everything and also states that blanking out the "risque bits" on an image doesn't exempt the item from the policy.

More info here: http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/policies/mature-audiences.html

Re: Playboy Trading Cards

crowsman53 — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 06:08:38 GMT

Thank you everyone for your help and advice.. I decided to call Ebay and see what I can list and what I cannot list. I Spoke with ** I do not wish to display his name. It seems I am allowed to list Playboy Trading Cards that were issued in 1994, 1995 and 1997 providing........The Card Does Not Show any nudity and the picture on the card was from a Playboy magazine dated before 1979. This will be hard to work around.. I also explained I had other Cards I wish to sell which are Comical/Si-Fi with Nudity and the reply I got was No...So again I will have a lot of sorting out to do.

Crowsman

Re: Playboy Trading Cards

davewil1964 — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 08:59:59 GMT

Interesting.

i sell a bit of 70's SF. A large proportion of the covers display breasts. I've never had one delisted.

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*crikey*mate* — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:14:27 GMT

Adult Material

What will eBay treat as "adult" or "sexually oriented" material?

"Adult" or "sexually-oriented" material includes, but is not limited to:

Any item that portrays frontal nudity will normally be treated as "adult" material, with limited exceptions.

Material that is not considered "adult" or "sexually oriented" includes but is not limited to:

A small and insignificant part of a catalog, book, periodical, or other work which is not, as a whole, primarily devoted to sexual matters. This includes, but is not necessarily limited to pieces of artwork that may be considered fine art-such as certain paintings, carvings, figurines and other similar materials. Other examples include, but are not limited to, Michelangelo's David, certain (but not all) vintage pinup art, a renaissance-style painting of a nude female, and paintings like Raphael's, or nude cherubs in the form of human infants.

The majority of the reports we receive about adult/sexually-oriented material are related to magazines and videos. In considering whether to end them, we consider the overall content of the listing, including pictures and text. For example, if an item description leads us to believe the content of the listing is adult in nature as defined by this policy, that item will be ended. Please note that blocking the "risqué" parts of an image will not exempt the item from these standards.

Although these are the most common forms of media on which such material is found, eBay also receives reports about other media. These include drawings, paintings, photographs, sculpture and carvings, and comics (both still and animated). The same standards apply to all media.

Re: Playboy Trading Cards

davewil1964 — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:28:58 GMT

What I said before. Given that the covers are only tangentially related to the subject matter. Most prominent in the E C Tubb Dumarest series.

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*crikey*mate* — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:32:03 GMT

That was just the link that I couldn't post earlier.

It just explains how some stuff gets through whilst other doesn't.

Re: Playboy Trading Cards

crowsman53 — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:36:19 GMT

Thanks again eyeryone for your responses.. on the Adult side of things so if I sell a card that shows the upper half of a female how do I know the person who bought it is 18+ because if him/her is not I could be in trouble.

Crowsman

Re: Playboy Trading Cards

zelly888 — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:45:53 GMT

Easy because all Ebay members must be over 18yrs of age to have an account

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crowsman53 — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:48:49 GMT

Does Ebay Check The Age Of Members??

Crowsman

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thesoulyearns — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:50:13 GMT

As far as I know, you can sell adult material on eBay.com but I don't know their rules for what is allowed.

I don't think the cards are allowed to be listed here. What type of nudity is allowed: "A small and insignificant part of a catalog, book, periodical, or other work which is not, as a whole, primarily devoted to sexual matters." Playboy is basically 100% devoted to sexual matters.

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*crikey*mate* — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:52:09 GMT

I went to respond to that earlier today CXrow, this morning my response was along the lines that all Members sign the Terms and Conditions when they they join eBay and one of those terms says something along the lines of "I am 18 or over" (sic), in which case, it is a given that members are 18 or older.

However, on an alcohol thread the other day, it came out that it was expected that the recipient signed for the delivery and produced proof of age.

So, not too sure what to think.

But if it falls into the "arty" criteria, I can't see a problem however the very title of your cards suggests they're not specifically arty, though older pictures are acceptable.

I guess it boils down to if your items are "art" or "pornography" and what the law about the associated distribution.

Hard one.

no pun intended

Re: Playboy Trading Cards

davewil1964 — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:53:17 GMT

Assumedly not. But it is a condition of membership.

A member posted a whinge recently about too much flesh on listing that her 14yo son was looking at. Couldn't understand that her 14yo son shouldn't be using eBay on Mum's account unsupervised. Or that he could get real explicit pics anywhere on the internet.

Re: Playboy Trading Cards

zelly888 — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:54:15 GMT

To become a member of eBay, individuals must be 18 years of age or older.

Violations of this policy may result in a range of actions, including:

Listing cancellation
Limits on account privileges
Account suspension
Forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings
Loss of PowerSeller status

If you believe a member to be underage, please report them to eBay's Customer Support team include their User ID and any other relevant information. If you have an email from the member, please be sure to include a copy.

Re: Playboy Trading Cards

*crikey*mate* — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:56:49 GMT

@zelly888 wrote:
Easy because all Ebay members must be over 18yrs of age to have an account

so why the proof of ID requirement for the receipt of alcohol then?

That was my initial thought too.

Alcohol policy

When alcohol is posted to a buyer, you must obtain the signature of an adult (over 18 years of age)
Many States have very specific laws based on the quantity and type of alcohol being posted
Sellers should describe the signature and postage requirements for fulfilling the transaction when listing such items on eBay.com.au
Many States require that carriers have licenses to transport alcohol
Your carrier must be capable of obtaining the required signature. Australia Post is unable to solicit age verification upon delivery of an item

But maybe that is a blanket law for all postage of alcohol, not just an eBay policy thing iykwim.

Cos when they post the Black Label Penthouse, no one has to sign for that, it just goes in the letter box.

Re: Playboy Trading Cards

*crikey*mate* — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:00:23 GMT

@davewil1964 wrote:
Assumedly not. But it is a condition of membership.

A member posted a whinge recently about too much flesh on listing that her 14yo son was looking at. Couldn't understand that her 14yo son shouldn't be using eBay on Mum's account unsupervised. Or that he could get real explicit pics anywhere on the internet.

LOL, and recall that that was over the reflection in a p[air of sunglasses!