topic Re: EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY in Selling

EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY

spire-view — Sat, 12 Apr 2014 00:12:18 GMT

Why is it ok for buyers to make you wait for payments , refuse to get back to you or refuse to answer emails be nasty about things THAY CAN DO IT A HUNDRED TIMES & GET AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE WITHOUT NAGATIVE FEEDBACK US SELLARS DONT KNOW WHAT THERE LIKE

and still sellars cannot leave negative feedback ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

EBAYS EXCUSE

While sellers can leave a positive Feedback rating and a comment for buyers, they can t leave negative or neutral Feedback.... Negative Feedback discourages buyers from future transactions and can lead to lower sales

Seems to me that ebay only worries about there commision ,

YOU SAY IT DISCOURAGES BUYERS from making future transactions

WELL it discourages sellars from selling on ebay because we are getting sick of idiot buyers stuffing us around and costing us money LET US LEAVE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK SO OTHER BUYERS KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT AND BLOCK THESE BIDDERS

I know myself & a lot of others are turning to local papers & notice board to sell our goods

I DONT KNOW WHY I BOTHER BECAUSE EBAY IS GETTING WELL KNOW FOR IGNORING PROBLEMS AS LONG AS THERE COMMISION IS COMING IN

DONT TAKE IT VOICE YOUR OPINION IF WE STAND TOGETHER MAYBE JUST MAYBE THINGS WILL CHANGE & FOR ALL YOU EBAYERS OUT THERE READING THIS THAT HAVE DONE THE WRONG THING BY SELLARS """KARMA"""

Re: EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY

phonebite — Sat, 12 Apr 2014 01:06:26 GMT

It probably does effect you as well, since eBay goal really is to get more potential customers. If they had less viewers, then ultimately you will get less too..

Why do you need to know if the buyer has a history of unpaid disputes? Rather why don't you just filter them out in the first place so they can't bid on your item at all?

Or why not just require immediate payments if you are using BIN?

I hate talking to my customers and consider it a waste of my time a BIN option with immediate payment options and I have never had a slow payment since..

Re: EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY

tstore — Sat, 12 Apr 2014 01:09:23 GMT

Wow you leave a lot of reds and greys ...

Re: EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY

phonebite — Sat, 12 Apr 2014 01:33:19 GMT

wow just looked thru it and the feedback he/she leaves involves alot of swearing and abuse... Like I said, this is what eBay probably wanted stop the whole site from becomming.. lol

Re: EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY

rkwm888 — Sat, 12 Apr 2014 02:59:13 GMT

what about the stupid sellers that make the buyers wait for their item while they transfer the money from their paypal to their bank account so they can post off the item

Re: EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY

haolove13 — Sat, 12 Apr 2014 03:17:25 GMT

So if someone is tight on money, what makes them stupid? Money in a paypal account does not pay for my postage as I refuse to use click and send etc.

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phorum_junkie* — Sat, 12 Apr 2014 04:54:58 GMT

How does a buyer make you wait for payment? Unless you allow them longer they have a maximum of 8 days and if you want payment earlier than that they you pretty well have to list things as immediate payment required.

Re: EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY

haolove13 — Sat, 12 Apr 2014 06:01:07 GMT

Buyers make sellers wait for payment in many ways.

Not paying means a wait of at least 8 days, and often missed sales because many people do not accept second chance offers.

That is depending on any payment method you use.

By pressing payment sent you can wait up to 2 months for that to disappear off your sales list to get a refund.

by missing time sensitive events like concert tickets you can lose a lot of money.

People asking for time to pay and then renigging on the sale are another source of lost revenue, and lost time.

Re: EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY

gbs47bran — Sun, 13 Apr 2014 04:05:28 GMT

that's write it should be fair and balanced buyer can leave any feedback they like

SELLERS SHOULD HAVE THE SAME OPTIONS THEY USED TOO

I AGREE ALL EBAY CARE ABOUT IS THERE COMMISSIONS

Re: EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY

2106greencat — Sun, 13 Apr 2014 04:28:30 GMT

Why would sellers care if the buyer had negatives or not ?? - it doesn't help us in any way shape or form.

Unless as a seller you plan on trolling every buyers feedback to place them on your BBL.

Once a buyer has BIN an item, no amount of negative feedback can change the fact they have already purchased off you so follow the tools eBay give you and issue strikes.

Re: EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY

haolove13 — Sun, 13 Apr 2014 05:25:12 GMT

On the contrary if buyers had negatives they would be suspended, sanctioned or banned from Ebay.

When a seller has a series of negatives they are removed from Ebay. The same should apply to buyers.

Recently I wasted a lot of effort on a buyer who had 35 negative/ positives in the last month and over 200 for 12 months and in the month he had only completed three transactions. Ebay were getting false income as if people did not follow the rules they were still having to pay FVF.

This is not an occasional mistake it is systematic abuse of the system. These types of people should not be on Ebay and reintroduction of negatives for buyers would eventually eliminate them from the system.

Just read the huge numbers of threads now about non payers and the names in there change daily. Then read the defense of the system from the same handful of people who defend them time after time after time.

It is a pox on Ebay that they do nothing about it that is effective. As long as they get their excessive commissions they are happy.

Just take a think about refunds of FVF's. If you do not jump through the hoops in the correct order Ebay get to keep their FVF. So the loser is the seller. You pay for listing, pay FVF and do not get any income.

Yes that is a level playing field. Almost makes you wonder if Ebay are encouraging the practice.

Re: EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY

davewil1964 — Sun, 13 Apr 2014 05:36:21 GMT

Two hoops -

Open a dispute, then close it. Hardly difficult or time-consuming. Or hoops, for that matter.

As all sellers have presumably read the site map about selling (at least) and disputes are a prominent section of that, I would think sellers should not be losing FVFs on non-payments.

Re: EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY

haolove13 — Sun, 13 Apr 2014 08:32:01 GMT

Then read the defense of the system from the same handful of people who defend them time after time after time.

This seller had over thirty negative positives in a month and lord knows how many non responses. I recently had a small handful of negatives because of illness and have restrictions in place on my account. Have missed out on two lots of free listings , but this clown is still buying and not paying at will on Ebay. Seems that blocks and strikes do not work because I know of at least three people who have gone through the process with him.

and he even came back and tried to buy from me again according to my log.

Now if there had been 36 negatives this person should probably not be on Ebay. (or we would be asking why he was still on there !!!!! wouldnt we. )

I think negatives have a place for unruly persistent problem buyers.

And if not there should be a public record to make it obvious who the troublemakers are, as I and a growing number of others are getting sick of this.

Ebay is a hard enough marketplace nowadays without putting up with Psychos.

I can understand an odd mistake but think about 200 in a year. That is at least one every second day.

How do you justify this behaviour??????

It is either vindictive, intentional attempts to distort the market, intended to reduce competition or just plain stupid behaviour.

How does it fit into any legal business model???? How does it fit into decent behaviour ?????? Is it ethical ????????

Re: EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY

davewil1964 — Sun, 13 Apr 2014 08:49:47 GMT

You are fully aware of how the system works.

The number of false positives would not worry me. I don't look at buyers' feedback. I send a reminder on Day 4, open a dispute on Day 5, close (if unpaid) on Day 9.

Easy, simple, and probably takes less time than continual laments on the boards when eBay have given you the tools to manage how you deal with these people. Your choices seem to be to work within the limitations (my choice) or go elsewhere. Since you're still here....

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jerryman12a — Sun, 13 Apr 2014 09:24:28 GMT

Hate to disspoint you but there are sellers out there with over 500 Negs , and they are not suspended .

So in fairness and all things equal if you want buyers to be able to receive Negs how would over 500 Negs on a Buyers profile mean anything to anyone . They can't suspend one and not the other .

Non payers and difficult buyers are al part of selling , so are unreliable sellers and the list goes on .

Re: EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY

haolove13 — Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:10:45 GMT

I had dealings with a seller recently who had 320 negatives this month alone, but they had 17,000 positives in the same month.

their rating was still 98.7 %

The clown I was using as the example would have a rating of about 20% which should see them at the absolute minimum on a month or more suspension.

Lies d..am lies and statistics.

And maybe I am not just here, some people are multi faceted

Re: EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY

sophie801108 — Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:18:56 GMT

Ebay policy spoiled buyers. They have extremely high expectation on the items while paying tiny little price. They don't have ideas how much the products actually cost the sellers. when they are not happy and want to return and refund, they expect sellers to pay it all including two way postages even though the seller didn't do anything wrong. they can find any excuse to claim the money. if the sellers refuse, they just thread them with a negtive feedback. and it works almost everytimes. so the sellers have to pay money to satisfy them.

Re: EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY

davewil1964 — Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:51:59 GMT

@sophie801108 wrote:
Ebay policy spoiled buyers. They have extremely high expectation on the items while paying tiny little price. They don't have ideas how much the products actually cost the sellers. when they are not happy and want to return and refund, they expect sellers to pay it all including two way postages even though the seller didn't do anything wrong. they can find any excuse to claim the money. if the sellers refuse, they just thread them with a negtive feedback. and it works almost everytimes. so the sellers have to pay money to satisfy them.

Doesn't work with me. I think you have allowed yourself to be bullied.

Re: EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY

sophie801108 — Mon, 14 Apr 2014 13:38:50 GMT

i met few very very weired unreasonable customers, but most of them are good.

Re: EBAY NEADS TO REVISE THERE FEEDBACK REGULATIONS SELLARS FORM A LARGE PART OF EBAY

davewil1964 — Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:03:12 GMT

Then your original statement is hyperbole